jetlord 10,208 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Brown could be a good second day choice if the Chiefs find a FA vet to play LT for a while. Same with several other second tier OTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 On 4/4/2021 at 8:22 AM, xen said: I got all the speed lol. Yes Moore can play X. Reminder we have like 2 receivers or some shit under contract next year. Time to stock up. Love me some Quinn Meinerz...had a great senior bowl and could lock down center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, Balto said: Love me some Quinn Meinerz...had a great senior bowl and could lock down center I could live with that draft. Forsythe, Thuney, Meinerz, Long, Niang has the makings of a good Oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: I could live with that draft. Forsythe, Thuney, Meinerz, Long, Niang has the makings of a good Oline. Damn good line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Balto said: Love me some Quinn Meinerz...had a great senior bowl and could lock down center Yep: Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,208 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Would you take Meinerz ahead of Creed? They both could go in round two but Meinerz is more likely to last until the Chiefs pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 2 hours ago, jetlord said: Would you take Meinerz ahead of Creed? They both could go in round two but Meinerz is more likely to last until the Chiefs pick. I would. I love value and I think he only drops because of small school. If Meinerz played for a top program he would be a lock for the 1st round. Id like to see a little trade down with #31....then grab Little, Meinerz and Forsythe Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Balto said: I would. I love value and I think he only drops because of small school. If Meinerz played for a top program he would be a lock for the 1st round. Id like to see a little trade down with #31....then grab Little, Meinerz and Forsythe I could totally live with those three. Hedge your bets Niang and Little pan out. Shoot Forsythe might be better than both. Would love having too many tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,208 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Balto said: I would. I love value and I think he only drops because of small school. If Meinerz played for a top program he would be a lock for the 1st round. Id like to see a little trade down with #31....then grab Little, Meinerz and Forsythe I'd certainly go for the idea of an OT and OC early in the draft and trading down is my favorite scenario. Going after two OTs in the first three days might be overkill. The need at X receiver, edge, and LB can't be overlooked until the late fourth and even with a trade down, assuming it's a maximum of ten or twelve slots, won't do much more than move a late fourth to an early third. It will be interesting to see how teams value Little. There's not many monks out there that have him going before #40 and most much later. Unless the teams see something that the sports media doesn't, Stone will last until the third round. Meinerz is all over the boards, but the Chief can scramble to get him the second day if he's their priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 15 hours ago, jetlord said: Would you take Meinerz ahead of Creed? They both could go in round two but Meinerz is more likely to last until the Chiefs pick. I would take Creed over Meinerz. Athletic profile is similiar (Creed was a 10.0 RAS which is amazing) but people forget that Meinerz to center is a projection based on his work at the senior bowl. He was a left guard in college. Also he was division III. While I like both guys a lot there's no doubt Creed comes with fewer questions. That said if I could get Meinerz lower I'd have no problems doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 2 hours ago, xen said: I would take Creed over Meinerz. Athletic profile is similiar (Creed was a 10.0 RAS which is amazing) but people forget that Meinerz to center is a projection based on his work at the senior bowl. He was a left guard in college. Also he was division III. While I like both guys a lot there's no doubt Creed comes with fewer questions. That said if I could get Meinerz lower I'd have no problems doing that. I agree and I think the value of having to take Creed much earlier than Meinerz is what leans me to Meinerz. I also think Meinerz has a higher updside BUT also a lower downside as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 4 hours ago, jetlord said: I'd certainly go for the idea of an OT and OC early in the draft and trading down is my favorite scenario. Going after two OTs in the first three days might be overkill. The need at X receiver, edge, and LB can't be overlooked until the late fourth and even with a trade down, assuming it's a maximum of ten or twelve slots, won't do much more than move a late fourth to an early third. It will be interesting to see how teams value Little. There's not many monks out there that have him going before #40 and most much later. Unless the teams see something that the sports media doesn't, Stone will last until the third round. Meinerz is all over the boards, but the Chief can scramble to get him the second day if he's their priority. Maybe something like this: Miami gets: #1.31 Chiefs get: #2.50 #3.81 Then: #50-Little, #63-Meinerz, #81-Stone. Think all the picks would be a small reach BUT we get our guys! OR #50-Impact player, #63-Little, #81-Meinerz, #94-Stone. Thats probably better when it comes to value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, Balto said: Maybe something like this: Miami gets: #1.31 Chiefs get: #2.50 #3.81 Then: #50-Little, #63-Meinerz, #81-Stone. Think all the picks would be a small reach BUT we get our guys! OR #50-Impact player, #63-Little, #81-Meinerz, #94-Stone. Thats probably better when it comes to value If Stone Forsythe is available at 94, I will move to Arizona and become your butler. xen, Lamardirts and oldtimer 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,685 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said: If Stone Forsythe is available at 94, I will move to Arizona and become your butler. He lives in AZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: He lives in AZ? Balto? Yeah...Neighbors with Kliff Kingsbury. oldtimer and xen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 42 minutes ago, Balto said: Maybe something like this: Miami gets: #1.31 Chiefs get: #2.50 #3.81 Then: #50-Little, #63-Meinerz, #81-Stone. Think all the picks would be a small reach BUT we get our guys! OR #50-Impact player, #63-Little, #81-Meinerz, #94-Stone. Thats probably better when it comes to value Ran a simulation on that trade and went. This draft addresses line early and then finds a good #2 prospect at WR and 2 upgrades at LB that will get a year to develop into a young, dynamic, athletic LB corp (Gay, Barnes, Surratt). Stevens can replace Sorensen in 2022. Odeyingbo doesn't do much this year but next year when we need talented bodies he can step in and he falls this year because of his late year injury. Fehoko is a developmental X with talent. 50 - Walker Little - OT 63 - Meinerz - OC 81 - Amon St. Brown - WR 94 - Chazz Surratt - LB 136 Dayo Odeyingbo - DE - Injured but future high potential 144 Derrick Barnes - LB 175 JaCoby Stevens - S 181 Semi Fehoko - WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 22 hours ago, xen said: Yep: Love this website btw! Did you see that TE Sammis Reyes? DAMN Compare him to Pitts Yes I know I know Pitts is a proven TE that has actually played football haha BUT wow the upside to this Reyes guy! Reid and Mahomes should be able to maximize his skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Also Xen I know we look at Creed and Quinn at center but take a look at Rashawn Slater. Top 5 skills guy but if teams think he is a little to small for LT he could drop a little more. If you take his ONLY negative traits H/W and throw those into OC he would be a 10! I'd LOVE to trade up for this guy and gain the ability to play him anywhere but make him our All-Pro center. Do you trade up for a center hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, Balto said: Also Xen I know we look at Creed and Quinn at center but take a look at Rashawn Slater. Top 5 skills guy but if teams think he is a little to small for LT he could drop a little more. If you take his ONLY negative traits H/W and throw those into OC he would be a 10! I'd LOVE to trade up for this guy and gain the ability to play him anywhere but make him our All-Pro center. Do you trade up for a center hmmm I think Slater is the top center in this draft and it's not that close. I think he be a: good tackle, or a great guard, or an all pro center. I wrote him off as I don't think he falls that far. That said, I'd find it hard to trade up for a center while needing a left tackle. I do think Andy is one of those coaches who wants a certain body type at tackle and don't think he fits that, but man if he falls really hard? If have to consider that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 50 minutes ago, Balto said: Love this website btw! Did you see that TE Sammis Reyes? DAMN Compare him to Pitts Yes I know I know Pitts is a proven TE that has actually played football haha BUT wow the upside to this Reyes guy! Reid and Mahomes should be able to maximize his skills lol yeah I saw it. Sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, xen said: I think Slater is the top center in this draft and it's not that close. I think he be a: good tackle, or a great guard, or an all pro center. I wrote him off as I don't think he falls that far. That said, I'd find it hard to trade up for a center while needing a left tackle. I do think Andy is one of those coaches who wants a certain body type at tackle and don't think he fits that, but man if he falls really hard? If have to consider that. 2022 1st, 2nd and Hardman for Eagles #12 pick to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Balto said: 2022 1st, 2nd and Hardman for Eagles #12 pick to get him? I wouldn't. I mean, he's a great prospect but I don't see him as an all pro left tackle. With all the tackles in this draft I'd just let the draft fall to me. If he fell past 20 I'd start thinking hard and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 8 hours ago, xen said: I would take Creed over Meinerz. Athletic profile is similiar (Creed was a 10.0 RAS which is amazing) but people forget that Meinerz to center is a projection based on his work at the senior bowl. He was a left guard in college. Also he was division III. While I like both guys a lot there's no doubt Creed comes with fewer questions. That said if I could get Meinerz lower I'd have no problems doing that. I don't get taking meinerz when we have a similar guy in Allegretti. With Allegretti having some time at center in college and played in the big 10 where he ranked very high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Palangi said: I don't get taking meinerz when we have a similar guy in Allegretti. With Allegretti having some time at center in college and played in the big 10 where he ranked very high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I just don't see taking Meinerz when we have Allegretti. Not Creed I get. He played center. Same with Dickerson Allegretti has shown he can play in the league. Even if it is at guard. Meinerz is a D3 kid that played guard the whole time. We have plenty of guards. And a similar guy in Allegretti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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