Compensatory Picks

[Adamixoye 604]

4th (145) and 5th (182) round for KC

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2021-nfl-draft-compensatory-picks-tracker-a-look-at-each-teams-additional-picks-ahead-of-the-draft/

[xen 1,010,220]

What we expected.  Nice.

[reesebobby 5,663]

That's gives us some opportunity to deal with this line.  Very good. 

[Balto 723]

AND can be traded!  Love that change

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

Yeah.  Use them to move up and get the OT we really want.  I'd say Jenkins.  And not just because he is from Topeka.

[KC Warpaint 3,234]

also love that the bronco's and raiders didn't get any Comp Picks. Chargers got 1

[jetlord 10,209]

1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said:

Yeah.  Use them to move up and get the OT we really want.  I'd say Jenkins.  And not just because he is from Topeka.

The fourth round comp pick would move the Chiefs up about two slots in the first round.  Unless their dream OT is there at #29, I don't see the reason to trade up.  Maybe use them in the second or third round to move up more spaces for a specific player.  Actually, the Chiefs need more picks so I hope Veach doesn't squander them to get another Speaks or Kpass.  

[Thegoatee 1,780]

I think I prefer quantity of bodies over perceived quality of player in April. Throw enough guys into the mix and hope a few stick.

[sith13 1,746]

Not really a fan of moving up in 1st unless a can't miss OL drops to 30 or something so we would give up just a late pick but I wouldn't mind moving up with third day picks to get an extra pick on the second day. 4 picks in the first 3 rounds would get us a decent haul if used right. 

[Adamixoye 604]

Count me in among those who would rather just use the extra picks or trade down rather than trade up.  While overall my evaluation of Veach is positive, his weakness is definitely reaching for SPARQ guys, and we cannot afford to miss on more Tanohs and Speaks.

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

12 hours ago, jetlord said:

The fourth round comp pick would move the Chiefs up about two slots in the first round.  Unless their dream OT is there at #29, I don't see the reason to trade up.  Maybe use them in the second or third round to move up more spaces for a specific player.  Actually, the Chiefs need more picks so I hope Veach doesn't squander them to get another Speaks or Kpass.

I didn't realize that would only get us two spots.  You never know about Veach, though.  A guy from this area might accept a  cheaper second contract in several years just to stay here.  The picks would have to be packaged with somebody we don't want to let go....like Fisher or  Schwartz. Jenkins is a relentless and tough guy with top skills.

As long as we don't wait for a "project" like Cosmi.  We need someone now.

[oldtimer 8,686]

43 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said:

I didn't realize that would only get us two spots.  You never know about Veach, though.  A guy from this area might accept a  cheaper second contract in several years just to stay here.  The picks would have to be packaged with somebody we don't want to let go....like Fisher or  Schwartz. Jenkins is a relentless and tough guy with top skills.

As long as we don't wait for a "project" like Cosmi.  We need someone now.

[jetlord 10,209]

1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said:

I didn't realize that would only get us two spots.  You never know about Veach, though.  A guy from this area might accept a  cheaper second contract in several years just to stay here.  The picks would have to be packaged with somebody we don't want to let go....like Fisher or  Schwartz. Jenkins is a relentless and tough guy with top skills.

As long as we don't wait for a "project" like Cosmi.  We need someone now.

The draft trade charts aren't exact predictors, but the fact is that a late fourth is worth little in moving in the first round.  It would be more useful if, for example, the Chiefs had a WR they coveted in the mid/late third and traded the fourth to insure they got him.  Depending on who the Chiefs resign or pick up in FA, they have three or four definite needs from the draft.  O-line, DE, LB, and DB.  If Sorenson and Neiman are gone, then they need safeties of a specific type.  If they resign Breeland, the CB position is covered.  Same with Taco or even Sammy.  The projected health of the OTs is critical.  We just don't know enough to play GM with any accuracy.   So if they can keep three picks in the top hundred and two more in the 130s, they can upgrade the team at lower cost.

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

16 minutes ago, jetlord said:

The draft trade charts aren't exact predictors, but the fact is that a late fourth is worth little in moving in the first round.  It would be more useful if, for example, the Chiefs had a WR they coveted in the mid/late third and traded the fourth to insure they got him.  Depending on who the Chiefs resign or pick up in FA, they have three or four definite needs from the draft.  O-line, DE, LB, and DB.  If Sorenson and Neiman are gone, then they need safeties of a specific type.  If they resign Breeland, the CB position is covered.  Same with Taco or even Sammy.  The projected health of the OTs is critical.  We just don't know enough to play GM with any accuracy.   So if they can keep three picks in the top hundred and two more in the 130s, they can upgrade the team at lower cost.

Looks like my post was too late.  We just released both Fisher and Schwartz.

[Handswarmer 645]

Will the Chiefs be able to sing any draft picks? Minus 2 mill isn't a good place to be in the Salary cap.

[xen 1,010,220]

14 minutes ago, Handswarmer said:

Will the Chiefs be able to sing any draft picks? Minus 2 mill isn't a good place to be in the Salary cap.

Pat restructure alone can save another 17 mil.  HB extension another massive chunk.  That's just 2 moves.  We fine.

[Handswarmer 645]

30 minutes ago, xen said:

Pat restructure alone can save another 17 mil.  HB extension another massive chunk.  That's just 2 moves.  We fine.

Are they working on these? I haven't seen anything

[kkuenn 3,598]

1 minute ago, Handswarmer said:

Are they working on these? I haven't seen anything

Not publicly.  What he is saying is we have options, easy ones to get under the cap and afford FA let alone signing our draft picks too. You could rework Chris Jones contract as another option to get even more money. 

[xen 1,010,220]

58 minutes ago, Handswarmer said:

Are they working on these? I haven't seen anything

Who knows.  Pretty sure Veach understands there's a cap.  Not sure he believes it's real (spoiler alert:  it's not) but he at least is aware of it.

He won't announce anything until it's done.  Typically the only stuff that leaks out of Arrowhead is what they want out there.

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

8 hours ago, Handswarmer said:

Will the Chiefs be able to sing any draft picks?

I've never heard "Any Draft Picks." How does it go?

[Palangi 788]

1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said:

I've never heard "Any Draft Picks." How does it go?

Must be a Baltimore thing? 

[moons314 2,463]

On 3/10/2021 at 9:16 PM, jetlord said:

The fourth round comp pick would move the Chiefs up about two slots in the first round.  Unless their dream OT is there at #29, I don't see the reason to trade up.  Maybe use them in the second or third round to move up more spaces for a specific player.  Actually, the Chiefs need more picks so I hope Veach doesn't squander them to get another Speaks or Kpass.  

If we're talking about Jenkins, from what I've read, he's somewhere around a mid 2nd pick.   From a minimal amount of research, the theme seems to be that while he has the talent to play tackle at the next level, his footwork and lack of lateral speed leave him with a higher ceiling at guard.  Picking up a tackle at the back end of the first, and potentially dumping some later picks to get back up into the middle of the second round for Jenkins could be an interesting long term scenario for the Chiefs.   They could do a John Tait type scenario, start the 1st rounder at RT for a couple years.  Throw in Jenkins at RG, Niang at LG, and a FA veteran at LT for the short term, you could have a majorly upgraded line on the cheap with a high ceiling.  Jenkins could also be the answer at RT. There are a lot of possibilities. I could get on board with this. 

[jetlord 10,209]

1 hour ago, moons314 said:

If we're talking about Jenkins, from what I've read, he's somewhere around a mid 2nd pick.   From a minimal amount of research, the theme seems to be that while he has the talent to play tackle at the next level, his footwork and lack of lateral speed leave him with a higher ceiling at guard.  Picking up a tackle at the back end of the first, and potentially dumping some later picks to get back up into the middle of the second round for Jenkins could be an interesting long term scenario for the Chiefs.   They could do a John Tait type scenario, start the 1st rounder at RT for a couple years.  Throw in Jenkins at RG, Niang at LG, and a FA veteran at LT for the short term, you could have a majorly upgraded line on the cheap with a high ceiling.  Jenkins could also be the answer at RT. There are a lot of possibilities. I could get on board with this. 

Isn't Jenkins projected as a OT going in the first round.  The Chiefs probably won't see him at $31. 

[xen 1,010,220]

6 minutes ago, jetlord said:

Isn't Jenkins projected as a OT going in the first round.  The Chiefs probably won't see him at $31. 

Right, he's got to be worth at least 40 bucks.

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

6 hours ago, xen said:

Right, he's got to be worth at least 40 bucks.

Yeah, talk about team friendly.