AFCWEST 1,238 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Love this guy. Redzone no longer an issue for KC. Check out this 5min video. Looks like Kelce. https://youtu.be/gJYUxQPPf4s And This https://youtu.be/q7UxI_zMmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 every season there is a training camp love affair with some new player.. rarely do they pan out to meet up with the hype..maybe this year will be different sith13 and Burpo The Mad Clown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 Harold R. Kuntz @HaroldRKuntz3 · 19h What Duke HC David Cutcliffe said about new #Chiefs pick Noah Gray: “I’ve never seen Noah take a rep off or a day off, and his teammates would all tell you that. Noah doesn’t say a whole lot, doesn’t have to. He’s inspirational. He’s very talented." More from Cutcliffe: "He also doesn’t mind going in and mixing it up in the line of scrimmage. He can play fullback. He can play tight end. He can play receiver and he can line up next to a tackle,That’s a rare breed of player." #Chiefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: every season there is a training camp love affair with some new player.. rarely do they pan out to meet up with the hype..maybe this year will be different Well thats nice. I think Ill go back to bed. HaHa oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I was not trying to be derogatory towards the guy. It'd be nice to see a solid #2 receiving TE. I think that the Chiefs had a couple of players go before they picked and made a decision that was not to happen again so traded up for this guy.. typical Veach move and they pan out more than not I believe. DefensiveMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I was not trying to be derogatory towards the guy. It'd be nice to see a solid #2 receiving TE. I think that the Chiefs had a couple of players go before they picked and made a decision that was not to happen again so traded up for this guy.. typical Veach move and they pan out more than not I believe. Awesome RedZone target considering Hill, Kelce, and CEH will already have defenses spread thin. This guy has great route-running, and some fast-twitch suddenness I didn't expect to see in his tape. He's comfortable out of the slot as well which is a big plus! Even out of the backfield as a FB! Pretty sure Mahomes can't get this guy the rock! Reid will do new stuff with this guy. If nothing else he will help Kelce get open , give Kelce a few plays off and will learn from Kelce. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I was not trying to be derogatory towards the guy. It'd be nice to see a solid #2 receiving TE. I think that the Chiefs had a couple of players go before they picked and made a decision that was not to happen again so traded up for this guy.. typical Veach move and they pan out more than not I believe. I've been mocking this kid to us all offseason. Good value where they got him. He's one of those guys that was held back by his college system and could be better in the pros. We'll see. I like him a lot for our system. Lot of versatility in what you can do with him. Super smart. Good speed, COD and vert. AFCWEST and Lamardirts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, xen said: I've been mocking this kid to us all offseason. Good value where they got him. He's one of those guys that was held back by his college system and could be better in the pros. We'll see. I like him a lot for our system. Lot of versatility in what you can do with him. Super smart. Good speed, COD and vert. watching those clips you could tell the QB was the weak link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 The initial reports about any prospect is generally positive, I hope Gray is legit. A decent receiving TE would make the red zone extremely easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 49 minutes ago, oldtimer said: every season there is a training camp love affair with some new player.. rarely do they pan out to meet up with the hype..maybe this year will be different Aren't those guys usually UDFA's though? Bobby Sippio, Jody Fortson, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 This kid can thrive with a QB that doesn't stare him down every play as a 3rd or 4th option. Actually catches tough contested balls unlike Dunn back in the day that just bounced off his hands AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Does look like a young Kelce. Wonder if he’s got some breakaway speed like him too in the open field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I’m happy that the chiefs finally did draft a TE that we can mold. We tried Ricky seal Jones and that experiment failed. We have to give this kid a chance and let him roll and get comfortable. Having 3-TE sets with the line we have is going to be awesome. AFCWEST and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 57 minutes ago, Chiefmanzada said: Does look like a young Kelce. Wonder if he’s got some breakaway speed like him too in the open field Kelce 4.61 Gray 4.62 40 times Chiefmanzada, oldtimer and West 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, xen said: Kelce 4.61 Gray 4.62 40 times 17 game season. Gets some big leads and let the backups, like Gray, get some reps while resting the #1s. Even one series in the 3rd quarter gives guys some rest into the 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 hours ago, oldtimer said: I was not trying to be derogatory towards the guy. It'd be nice to see a solid #2 receiving TE. I think that the Chiefs had a couple of players go before they picked and made a decision that was not to happen again so traded up for this guy.. typical Veach move and they pan out more than not I believe. Have to go back and take a look, but I'm not so sure Veach's trade ups have a great record. Sure, when you throw in Mahomes (under Dorsey) that makes it seem worth while, but has the record with Veach at the helm been that good? In yesterday's draft, the move up cost nothing since the Chiefs got second round talent with pick #226. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, jetlord said: Have to go back and take a look, but I'm not so sure Veach's trade ups have a great record. Sure, when you throw in Mahomes (under Dorsey) that makes it seem worth while, but has the record with Veach at the helm been that good? In yesterday's draft, the move up cost nothing since the Chiefs got second round talent with pick #226. Veach's only role in Mahomes pick is the input, shows great scouting ability in terms of QB. However it was a Dorsey pick as well as being scouted by Dorsey's staff. I agree that Veach has been terrible in trades earlier in the draft, he probably should stay away from those but he seems to be doing much better when giving up just late or future + late picks. Regardless giving up multiple picks later in the draft isn't that critical and shouldn't really dictate a GM's success so at least in my opinion Veach is fine in this draft. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, sith13 said: Veach's only role in Mahomes pick is the input, shows great scouting ability in terms of QB. However it was a Dorsey pick as well as being scouted by Dorsey's staff. I agree that Veach has been terrible in trades earlier in the draft, he probably should stay away from those but he seems to be doing much better when giving up just late or future + late picks. Regardless giving up multiple picks later in the draft isn't that critical and shouldn't really dictate a GM's success so at least in my opinion Veach is fine in this draft. I think him trading our first has done well. Yes Clark could be viewed as not great, but Veach went out and got a proven talent. It helped our defense, filled a hole and though not spectacular he has done a good job. Now he goes and trades for another proven vet 2 time pro bowler at LT. I think this has done us very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, kkuenn said: I think him trading our first has done well. Yes Clark could be viewed as not great, but Veach went out and got a proven talent. It helped our defense, filled a hole and though not spectacular he has done a good job. Now he goes and trades for another proven vet 2 time pro bowler at LT. I think this has done us very well. I was expecting more from Clark but regardless he was a major contributor in the SB run, that justifies the move completely. I also like the Brown trade, need to keep Mahomes safe and as the draft turned out we definitely didn't have a shot at getting a decent starter in 1st. Obviously time will tell about Brown but I think Veach's primary weakness is whenever he moves up in 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, sith13 said: I was expecting more from Clark but regardless he was a major contributor in the SB run, that justifies the move completely. I also like the Brown trade, need to keep Mahomes safe and as the draft turned out we definitely didn't have a shot at getting a decent starter in 1st. Obviously time will tell about Brown but I think Veach's primary weakness is whenever he moves up in 2nd. Seems so. I do hope we try for Ndjoku (sp?) The TE from Cleveland in a trade. Groom and mentor Gray, but then see with this guy too. Also if both work out, resign and go on from Kelce in 3 or 4 years when he should be about done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AFCWEST 1,238 Posted May 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Seems so. I do hope we try for Ndjoku (sp?) The TE from Cleveland in a trade. Groom and mentor Gray, but then see with this guy too. Also if both work out, resign and go on from Kelce in 3 or 4 years when he should be about done. Veach is still learning. I think he nailed this entire offseason. jetlord, DieHard, West and 3 others 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: Veach is still learning. I think he nailed this entire offseason. Well he nailed the o line for sure. If it works out, I can't wait to see mahomes with time to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Veach has been awesome. No other take necessary. Two SBs in 2 years, should have been three in 3 years were it not for a neutral zone infraction. West and Calichief 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Well he nailed the o line for sure. If it works out, I can't wait to see mahomes with time to throw. And lanes CEH can take advantage of Lamardirts and AFCWEST 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, AFCWEST said: Veach is still learning. I think he nailed this entire offseason. We won't know until next draft but I wonder if he changed his strategy up a little. Hit some doubles at the front then take a couple swings at the end. If the swings don't work out you still have your doubles who can play and develop into the core of this team. Seems like early on he would swing on those early picks and reach. I think this draft has the potential to be elite for us and worse case a solid draft that filled important holes with capable players. If Trey Smith and/or Kaindoh pan out this draft could set us up beautifully for the future. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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