AFCWEST 1,238 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said: I don't think it was a lack of fire for Clark. He is a guy with a lot of pride, and he wants to earn what he is being paid. With Reed on the interior, the presence of CJ outside will produce so much pressure over there, that Clark will finally be able to do his thing on the other side. He has been doubled and maligned as a result, since he came to KC. I think Jones has been doubled as a result of Clarks play. The numbers dont lie. He is average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: I think Jones has been doubled as a result of Clarks play. The numbers dont lie. He is average at best. Can't argue with that, for sure. The more I read, the more his stomach issues sound like IBD, particularly Crohn's disease. Has lost a lot of weight. He had his appendix removed, and Crohn's can sure involve the appendix. If true, I feel sorry for the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Our consolation over the Clark era in KC is that they very well might not have won the SB without him two seasons ago. After 50 years and a number of frustrating times of falling short in the playoffs, getting that one was worth overpaying. Could the Chiefs have done better without that contract and draft pick? In hind sight, yes. But we fans do have a SB win to show for it. Fmbl2187, qnet and Lamardirts 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 hours ago, AFCWEST said: I think Jones has been doubled as a result of Clarks play. The numbers dont lie. He is average at best. Jones is doubled because he's a gameplan wrecker. Teams would play him heads up if they could. They can't. Nobody doubles a defender unless they have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 55 minutes ago, xen said: Jones is doubled because he's a gameplan wrecker. Teams would play him heads up if they could. They can't. Nobody doubles a defender unless they have to. My point was Clark is not doubled and Jones was. Clark should benefit from Jones being doubled and has not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 8 hours ago, West said: Pretty much saw Clark and Jones take over the 4th Qtr of the Super Bowl vs the 49ers. He also does not line up off sides, had he been here 1 year sooner we would be bitching about 3 years in a row being in the Super Bowl. I am still pleased he is a Chief. The guy NEVER quits on a play.... w Was thinking of a comment to add to this. But no need. It's exactly how I feel. xen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, AFCWEST said: My point was Clark is not doubled and Jones was. Clark should benefit from Jones being doubled and has not. True at least for last year. I would agree with West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Clark knows he has a a cut candadite after this season. He will be motivated. His buddy Reed will also motivate him. melts see how this turns out but I have a feeling we will have a very good D line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said: There's no issues anyway. We can get out of his contract and save money after this season. And we've been to the SB the last 2 yrs. So it hasn't prevented us from getting where we wanted to go. And he wasn't the reason we lost the big game. You could say in hindsight that some of the money used for him could have been better spent on an offensive lineman. But that would mean he wasn't here in 2019, and we wouldnt have won the SB without him. The second we earned that Lombardi, the trade and extension was justified. I agree we may not have won the SB without his second half performance, turned into a beast. Same is true for Watkins. However the SB justifies pretty much everything like keeping guys like Reiter, Nieman, Wylie, etc. around. At some point one starts to wonder if we would have an even easier game with guys that actually lived up to those contracts. Regardless I'm happy with the only SB win of my lifetime and the roster that won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Justin Houston visited the Ravens in April but left without a contract; rumours are now to "Don't rule out a reunion with the Chiefs." Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Handswarmer said: Justin Houston visited the Ravens in April but left without a contract; rumours are now to "Don't rule out a reunion with the Chiefs." Your thoughts? Bring him. We have had few discussions in regards to his return. The Colts certainly have shown with their first 2 picks they dont want him back. One theory is whenhe left the Chiefs he left with a grudge. I for one am not that sure and could not find anything to back it up. He had a fine year last year but maybe his salary demands are too high. To me if the price is right he's a no brainer. Palangi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 12 hours ago, Holmes4six! said: Clark knows he has a a cut candadite after this season. He will be motivated. His buddy Reed will also motivate him. melts see how this turns out but I have a feeling we will have a very good D line. I dont think he lacked motivation or effort. He is simply an overrated player. He is what he is. I doubt much will change this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: I dont think he lacked motivation or effort. He is simply an overrated player. He is what he is. I doubt much will change this season. altho I agree with the overpaid errr over rated I think he will have a better year with this supporting cast but he'll be no All Pro like he is paid to be sith13 and Palangi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Handswarmer said: Justin Houston visited the Ravens in April but left without a contract; rumours are now to "Don't rule out a reunion with the Chiefs." Your thoughts? Considering we have Taco as the most likely starter I would love to bring back Houston for a 1-year deal. The ring should be a good motivator for him. It's all about the manner of his release, if it wasn't a bad breakup I don't see any reason this wouldn't be a slam dunk for both sides. Troyofoc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I think it's up to Justin Houston. Super Bowl > $$$$ His legacy is great already....a Borderline Ring of Honor Guy. w sith13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 55 minutes ago, West said: I think it's up to Justin Houston. Super Bowl > $$$$ His legacy is great already....a Borderline Ring of Honor Guy. w I agree....coming back and getting a ring in KC would be a great ending to his career as a Chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 5 hours ago, West said: I think it's up to Justin Houston. Super Bowl > $$$$ His legacy is great already....a Borderline Ring of Honor Guy. w I think that bridge was burned three years ago. Don't expect Houston back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 On 6/18/2021 at 6:46 AM, Handswarmer said: Justin Houston visited the Ravens in April but left without a contract; rumours are now to "Don't rule out a reunion with the Chiefs." Your thoughts? Accoring to that chart he is still getting pressure at a high rate. I like him a whole lot more than Ingram who I think is a liability or a worse liability versus the run that Houston. Houston could probably thrive her this year with Jones, Reed, Clark, and Wharton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Hindsight is 20/20. Our defense was soft as crap before he got here. He hasn't gotten the sacks or pressures that we would like and that are required for someone making that much but he is a DAWG and that attitude rubs off on players. Obviously, he hasn't been worth the size of his contract but no way we win that SB without him. I would argue Houston and Berry's contract was far worse and far more harmful for the organization. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Lamardirts said: Accoring to that chart he is still getting pressure at a high rate. I like him a whole lot more than Ingram who I think is a liability or a worse liability versus the run that Houston. Houston could probably thrive her this year with Jones, Reed, Clark, and Wharton. He would be a help in the short run. The long run is better helped by young guys getting reps. Since we have a big window, I say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 On 6/18/2021 at 6:46 AM, Handswarmer said: Justin Houston visited the Ravens in April but left without a contract; rumours are now to "Don't rule out a reunion with the Chiefs." Your thoughts? Rumors from where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/20/2021 at 9:56 AM, Iluvhouse24 said: Rumors from where? https://sports.yahoo.com/todd-gurley-justin-houston-predicted-234739396.html Once one of the most feared pass-rushers in the NFL, Houston is now in the twilight of his career. But the 32-year-old, who has at least eight sacks in each of the last four seasons, should still be capable of making a significant impact as a secondary option for a contender. Houston’s other likely options are joining the Ravens or returning to the Chiefs. Both AFC teams have plenty of defensive ends but should be intent on fielding the strongest defense possible to help their star quarterbacks. I included the link to make sure I wasn't lying.... SEMO and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Handswarmer said: https://sports.yahoo.com/todd-gurley-justin-houston-predicted-234739396.html Once one of the most feared pass-rushers in the NFL, Houston is now in the twilight of his career. But the 32-year-old, who has at least eight sacks in each of the last four seasons, should still be capable of making a significant impact as a secondary option for a contender. Houston’s other likely options are joining the Ravens or returning to the Chiefs. Both AFC teams have plenty of defensive ends but should be intent on fielding the strongest defense possible to help their star quarterbacks. I included the link to make sure I wasn't lying.... links are always helpful. Houston may have "Hand" if the Chiefs are thinking Clark maybe be suspended for any length of time sith13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Houston should be on a plane to KC by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/17/2021 at 2:38 PM, Troyofoc said: Found it. Looks to be bottom third in double teams. Meanwhile Houston has a pretty high rank in Doubles and Win rate.....he must want too much money for Baltimore to let him walk after his visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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