oldtimer 8,684 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 https://currently.att.yahoo.com/sports/ryan-ramczyk-deal-could-impact-180647763.html The New Orleans Saints just gave starting right tackle Ryan Ramczyk a record-setting deal, making him the highest-paid right tackle in football. Ramczyk received a five-year deal worth $96 million dollars, including a record $43 million in guaranteed money and $60 million in injury guarantees, which is also a record. This deal entirely resets the right tackle market in a way that could impact the tackle position as a whole. It ranks as the second-highest total value for a tackle on the right or left side. When the Kansas City Chiefs traded for Orlando Brown Jr. back in April, a big question about the move was a pending contract extension. Brown is in the final year of his rookie deal, making a full-time switch to the left tackle position. The Chiefs communicated that they were comfortable waiting on an extension. One report even said that the team would consider using the franchise tag on Brown in 2022 to either facilitate an extension or keep him under team control. Now, the decision to wait on an extension may cost them. For the most part, the right and left tackle markets have been distinct and different. This contract for Ramczyk, however, begins to blur the lines. Right now, the deal that Trent Williams signed with the San Francisco 49ers this offseason is the top contract for a tackle at six years and $138 million. Players at the left tackle position were already going to be looking to top that deal when it’s their turn for a big payday. With Ramcyzk’s contract coming in at No. 4 among all offensive tackles, it’ll just give a player like Brown even more ammunition in negotiations to receive a massive contract extension. Agents will argue for more distinction between the two different tackle positions. Brown’s camp already had plenty of ammunition after the Chiefs pursued the top-paid Williams during the 2021 free agency period. With a top-heavy roster, the decision to wait on a deal to extend Brown could prove to be a costly one. Yes, contract value in the NFL will only go up as we inch closer to the salary cap ballooning with new TV deals. Still, the Chiefs will need to be cautious with how they structure things over the next few years. Hopefully, Brown proves to be worth a big investment for Kansas City during the 2021 NFL season. The team will gladly pay for a player that performs at a high level and helps keep Patrick Mahomes upright. Otherwise, the Chiefs could find themselves caught in a tricky situation, with no good answer on how to proceed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 That's a huge deal. I was expecting to give Brown something around that but being on the left side I'm not sure what he'll ask for now. The cap better go up soon. The key is his performance, if he performs at a top-5 LT level whatever we give him will be reasonable, but if he ends up just being average we could struggle quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Leave it to the saints to cut half their line because they can’t afford them and then sign this dude to an abnormally large deal sith13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Leave it to the saints to cut half their line because they can’t afford them and then sign this dude to an abnormally large deal Well, they have to make sure that their All Pro quarterback is protected. Oh damn, he retired... so who needs this record setting protection down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,684 Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, Biggjliv4 said: Well, they have to make sure that their All Pro quarterback is protected. Oh damn, he retired... so who needs this record setting protection down there? average qb with great line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, oldtimer said: average qb with great line Given enough time and a decent running game a mediocre QB will lead the team to the playoffs more often than not, good approach IMO. oldtimer and Burpo The Mad Clown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Meh Ramczyk is a LT playing RT and even with Armstead, when healthy, grading out as a top 5 LT Ramczyk is looked at as a potential best tackle in the NFL type of guy. Ramczyk and Armstead were both on last years of contract and with Ramczyk being younger, healthier and potentially better it was never a question which of the two would get the big contract. I suspect a trade of Armstead if he won’t take a team friendly deal to stay a Saint and if not Ramczyk will move over to the left side. All the Saints did here is pay a top LT....Top LT money. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 We can just tell him PFF has him ranked as the 16th best OT. And they are never wrong. 😁 oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Cut Clark and put that money to the OL mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 On 7/1/2021 at 8:55 AM, sith13 said: Given enough time and a decent running game a mediocre QB will lead the team to the playoffs more often than not, good approach IMO. Yes but then no Championships. See Alex Smith. azchief21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Chiefmanzada said: Cut Clark and put that money to the OL How about cutting Clark after this season and putting that money into a DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 We can worry about next year after this season. If Orlando balls out then you pay the man. mex and sith13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 11:47 PM, AFCWEST said: Yes but then no Championships. See Alex Smith. It's probable, however unlikely, to win the SB with a guy like Smith that gets the franchise to the playoffs every year. It's not ideal as luck is definitely a big factor and the rest of the roster has to be very good so an elite QB is the easiest way to get there but a lot of franchises would love to be just competitive enough to make it beyond the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 8:13 AM, sith13 said: It's probable, however unlikely, to win the SB with a guy like Smith that gets the franchise to the playoffs every year. It's not ideal as luck is definitely a big factor and the rest of the roster has to be very good so an elite QB is the easiest way to get there but a lot of franchises would love to be just competitive enough to make it beyond the regular season. True. I can remember just hoping for one playoff win. Was not that long ago. sith13 and Lamardirts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 10:13 AM, sith13 said: It's probable, however unlikely, to win the SB with a guy like Smith that gets the franchise to the playoffs every year. It's not ideal as luck is definitely a big factor and the rest of the roster has to be very good so an elite QB is the easiest way to get there but a lot of franchises would love to be just competitive enough to make it beyond the regular season. Good QBs like Smith might make it to a SB if the stars are aligned right, but elite QBs make it to multiple SBs. Starr, Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, Brady, Manning, Griese, among others and now Mahomes. Some have had great teams around them, but great QBs make their team better. oldtimer, sith13 and mex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 I believe we could have won a SB with Alex but the stars all had to align. Defense playing lights out, Andy calling all the right calls at the right moments, all calls going our way and then a little luck. We often got 2/4 and 3/4 but without all 4 lining up it was impossible. Mahomes changes that dynamic for sure. He basically just needs 1 out of those 4 to line up and we have a good chance of winning it all. All the best formulas start with an elite qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Lamardirts said: I believe we could have won a SB with Alex but the stars all had to align. Defense playing lights out, Andy calling all the right calls at the right moments, all calls going our way and then a little luck. We often got 2/4 and 3/4 but without all 4 lining up it was impossible. Mahomes changes that dynamic for sure. He basically just needs 1 out of those 4 to line up and we have a good chance of winning it all. All the best formulas start with an elite qb. You're right about the Chiefs needing constant luck to win a SB with Smith, but they had incredible bad luck that prevented them from winning several playoff games. Kelce getting concussed just before half was the worst example, but JC going down and the collapse against Indy were others. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 12:44 PM, DieHard said: We can just tell him PFF has him ranked as the 16th best OT. And they are never wrong. 😁 Well I’m sure his overall stats...sacks given up, pressures and such will be a factor in the negotiations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Balto said: Well I’m sure his overall stats...sacks given up, pressures and such will be a factor in the negotiations I hope we won't have much against him in negotiations, and won't regret the new contract in the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 True. I hope he does earn a fat contract. I think he will be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 hours ago, DieHard said: True. I hope he does earn a fat contract. I think he will be very good. Five years, $100M with a big chunk guaranteed is about the price if he makes all-pro again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 12 hours ago, jetlord said: Five years, $100M with a big chunk guaranteed is about the price if he makes all-pro again. I will be worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 hours ago, jetlord said: Five years, $100M with a big chunk guaranteed is about the price if he makes all-pro again. I wouldn't mind that for an all-pro LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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