Hey Hands... thoughts?

[oldtimer 8,685]

A good agent not only negotiates a player’s contract. A good agent also helps a player negotiate his life.

If Lamar Jackson currently had a good agent, Lamar would be receiving a phone call with a very clear and direct message: Stop playing defensive back or receiver on an asphalt basketball court.

A video has emerged of Jackson doing both. And while he wasn’t injured while doing either, there’s simply no reason to take that risk while on the brink of signing a life-changing contract with the Ravens. A broken ankle, torn ACL, ruptured, Achilles’ tendon, or other similar injury would end those talks, immediately.

This isn’t hard, and it shouldn’t be controversial. No player closing in on $40 million or so per year should be taking these risks just for kicks. Setting aside the question of whether the Ravens would declare any mishap a non-football injury and not pay his salary for 2021, the bigger issue here comes from the fact that his contract still isn’t finalized. Get injured playing DB or WR on a basketball, and it won’t get done.

The Ravens seem intent to take care of Jackson, who’s negotiating his own contract. Until that happens, Jackson needs to take care of himself. And he needs someone to tell him in no uncertain terms to minimize all physical risks until training camp, and to hope that a deal can get finished before then.

[Handswarmer 645]

It was the same when Mahomes played basketball....

Years ago, Terrell Suggs tore is Achille's playing basketball; it was supposedly done while working out in the offseason. it was hush hushed, Suggs came back and signed another contract.

 

I am not sure what the thought is here from Florio and Co; LJ is 24 and horsing around with some kids a football camp.

If he hurts something; he suffers the financial loss. If he's out for the season, us fans suffer the emotional loss

[oldtimer 8,685]

I was more curious to your thoughts of him negotiating his own contract. Altho not unheard of one has to think  he lost leverage after not  signing after his MVP year and the old saying about people being their own  attorney comes to mind.

[Handswarmer 645]

On 7/13/2021 at 12:49 PM, oldtimer said:

I was more curious to your thoughts of him negotiating his own contract. Altho not unheard of one has to think  he lost leverage after not  signing after his MVP year and the old saying about people being their own  attorney comes to mind.

Well, the story is he has his advisors, ie., unlicensed agents, helping him. Albert Breer wrote a story on it in SI.com.

Also, word around here is that the negotiations are going smoothly.

[xen 1,010,219]

Isn't that similiar to the old saw about the man who acts as his own lawyer has a fool for a client?

[robgar 1,046]

unlicensed agent, you mean the ones that havent passed the nfls, exam.. 

and therefore cant prove they know what there talking about?

 

so these are lawyers that arent bound by the nfls pricing scheme?

[Handswarmer 645]

On 7/16/2021 at 7:42 PM, xen said:

Isn't that similiar to the old saw about the man who acts as his own lawyer has a fool for a client?

It worked for me once in court; I just pointed out where there wasn't proper notification for a lawsuit- judge dismissed the case.

On 7/18/2021 at 8:15 AM, robgar said:

unlicensed agent, you mean the ones that havent passed the nfls, exam.. 

and therefore cant prove they know what there talking about?

 

so these are lawyers that arent bound by the nfls pricing scheme?

from Pro Football Talk:

"Of course, Jackson isn’t completely going it alone. Despite widespread reports and assumptions, we’re told that his mother is not involved. She may be advising him, but she’s not negotiating with the Ravens.

Jackson has advisers. He’s had advisers for all of his business ventures. He simply doesn’t have a traditional NFLPA-certified agent.

It can become problematic if/when the adviser becomes a negotiator. Technically, teams can’t negotiate with an agent who isn’t certified by the union. For the uncertified agent, of course, there’s no downside. He or she already operates outside the jurisdiction of the NFLPA. What will the union say? Stop doing what you already aren’t supposed to do?

Different theories have made the rounds about the person(s) advising Lamar Jackson. One agent believes former NFL player Abe Elam is involved. (Elam’s brother, Matt, was a first-round pick of the Ravens in 2013 and did not use an agent.) There’s also a chance Lamar is using a sports agency that doesn’t do football deals."