AFCWEST 1,238 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just now, KC Warpaint said: have teams figured us out????? I think the roster is getting weaker on the defensive side of the ball. This may be life as a Chiefs fan going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just now, KC Warpaint said: have teams figured us out????? Well in what way? I mean they can give mahomes all those plays underneath but we saw how our offense did. 400 yards and 4 tds is not really figuring us out. The defense is where they know they can run on. That has been apparent for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Doesn't matter where we line up Chris Jones....He has no help. Frank Clark is trash. I don't fault them signing him and he does bring a good mentality that we needed 3 years ago but we messed up not signing Melvin Ingram or even someone like Justin Houston. Chris needs help and he's not getting any. That was a make shift line and it was meh which leads me to the next point...... I do have a suspicion though. Spags game plan was contain which I hate because I really works against the moral of the D. You can't go all out against LJ you got hard and then fight to maintain your position to force him in the pocket. It worked last year when we built up a good lead and they could abandon the run but slowed up again before we forced that. This is the second game in a row were our D looked very Bob Suttonish. Reactive....very slow and reactive. Bend don't break bull crap. Linebackers are unsure and don't hit holes they literally wait for the back to get in the hole which is an automatic 3-4 yard game at best. Ward just isn't very good and is a liability on the back end. Niemann is a huge liablity and while Dan does make some good splash plays but he he has lost a step and is easily targeted for easy catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, AFCWEST said: I think the roster is getting weaker on the defensive side of the ball. This may be life as a Chiefs fan going forward. Lol..yes! My wife who knows nothing about football just asked me if all the chiefs' money was tied up in the offense...I said actually YES. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Lamardirts said: Doesn't matter where we line up Chris Jones....He has no help. Frank Clark is trash. I don't fault them signing him and he does bring a good mentality that we needed 3 years ago but we messed up not signing Melvin Ingram or even someone like Justin Houston. Chris needs help and he's not getting any. That was a make shift line and it was meh which leads me to the next point...... I do have a suspicion though. Spags game plan was contain which I hate because I really works against the moral of the D. You can't go all out against LJ you got hard and then fight to maintain your position to force him in the pocket. It worked last year when we built up a good lead and they could abandon the run but slowed up again before we forced that. This is the second game in a row were our D looked very Bob Suttonish. Reactive....very slow and reactive. Bend don't break bull crap. Linebackers are unsure and don't hit holes they literally wait for the back to get in the hole which is an automatic 3-4 yard game at best. Ward just isn't very good and is a liability on the back end. Niemann is a huge liablity and while Dan does make some good splash plays but he he has lost a step and is easily targeted for easy catches. Third game in a row. Good post. Good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, AFCWEST said: I think the roster is getting weaker on the defensive side of the ball. This may be life as a Chiefs fan going forward. I don't think the defense has been really good since the early seasons when Reid coached. We just have an out of this world QB, and they've been good enough at the right times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 All the stuff being said.. 35 points should be enough to win football games. Lamardirts and azchief21 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 cj, honeybadger, and frank clark.. and the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Handswarmer said: Lamar wins! Credit where credit is due. Confirming what we knew, Lamar is a really good RB and congrats to the Ravens for winning their Super Bowl tonight. They certainly were excited. I like to go to the Chiefs discussion board after a game. Win or lose. I never run to the opponents discussion board immediately after a game. That seems trollish. Handswarmer, AFCWEST and Palangi 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Lamardirts said: Doesn't matter where we line up Chris Jones....He has no help. Frank Clark is trash. I don't fault them signing him and he does bring a good mentality that we needed 3 years ago but we messed up not signing Melvin Ingram or even someone like Justin Houston. Chris needs help and he's not getting any. That was a make shift line and it was meh which leads me to the next point...... I do have a suspicion though. Spags game plan was contain which I hate because I really works against the moral of the D. You can't go all out against LJ you got hard and then fight to maintain your position to force him in the pocket. It worked last year when we built up a good lead and they could abandon the run but slowed up again before we forced that. This is the second game in a row were our D looked very Bob Suttonish. Reactive....very slow and reactive. Bend don't break bull crap. Linebackers are unsure and don't hit holes they literally wait for the back to get in the hole which is an automatic 3-4 yard game at best. Ward just isn't very good and is a liability on the back end. Niemann is a huge liablity and while Dan does make some good splash plays but he he has lost a step and is easily targeted for easy catches. I said, as have others, I cant wait to cut Clark and Hitchens. Use that money to get a FA DE, LB or run stuffing DT. Use our draft where we don't get those FAs at. I bet we probably tag Brown at LT then. If not resigning him will take up the Hitchens and Clark money and we will really need to hit in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just now, Lamardirts said: Doesn't matter where we line up Chris Jones....He has no help. Frank Clark is trash. I don't fault them signing him and he does bring a good mentality that we needed 3 years ago but we messed up not signing Melvin Ingram or even someone like Justin Houston. Chris needs help and he's not getting any. That was a make shift line and it was meh which leads me to the next point...... I do have a suspicion though. Spags game plan was contain which I hate because I really works against the moral of the D. You can't go all out against LJ you got hard and then fight to maintain your position to force him in the pocket. It worked last year when we built up a good lead and they could abandon the run but slowed up again before we forced that. This is the second game in a row were our D looked very Bob Suttonish. Reactive....very slow and reactive. Bend don't break bull crap. Linebackers are unsure and don't hit holes they literally wait for the back to get in the hole which is an automatic 3-4 yard game at best. Ward just isn't very good and is a liability on the back end. Niemann is a huge liablity and while Dan does make some good splash plays but he he has lost a step and is easily targeted for easy catches. Agree with all this. Spags hasn't attacked at all. There's a real personnel problem on defense but some of that can be masked by his exotic blitzes and pressuring the qb. I dont understand it. Spags brings the fuckin house. Where has that been. On a side note I just decided I'm going to the game next week. It's a huge division game and that place is gonna be rockin. I wanna see us after a wake up call. I bet we kick the Chargers asses. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Lots of good offenses to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 sorry this is just a stupid post to see my new rank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Calichief said: All the stuff being said.. 35 points should be enough to win football games. This. Here we go backwards to Vermeil and Sutton eras. Score 5,6,7 TDs and lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: Doesn't matter where we line up Chris Jones....He has no help. Frank Clark is trash. I don't fault them signing him and he does bring a good mentality that we needed 3 years ago but we messed up not signing Melvin Ingram or even someone like Justin Houston. Chris needs help and he's not getting any. That was a make shift line and it was meh which leads me to the next point...... I do have a suspicion though. Spags game plan was contain which I hate because I really works against the moral of the D. You can't go all out against LJ you got hard and then fight to maintain your position to force him in the pocket. It worked last year when we built up a good lead and they could abandon the run but slowed up again before we forced that. This is the second game in a row were our D looked very Bob Suttonish. Reactive....very slow and reactive. Bend don't break bull crap. Linebackers are unsure and don't hit holes they literally wait for the back to get in the hole which is an automatic 3-4 yard game at best. Ward just isn't very good and is a liability on the back end. Niemann is a huge liablity and while Dan does make some good splash plays but he he has lost a step and is easily targeted for easy catches. Geez Dirts...where you been all week? We talked about everything you just said already. No pass rushers, no LBs, Sorenson is a liability in the pass game, HB won't tackle, CEH has some problems with vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Guess 20-0 isn't in the realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Calichief said: Lots of good offenses to come. The Chargers are going to be tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, artsy said: Geez Dirts...where you been all week? We talked about everything you just said already. No pass rushers, no LBs, Sorenson is a liability in the pass game, HB won't tackle, CEH has some problems with vision. By the way, I think O. Brown played better tonight...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Opposing offenses are 6/6 in the red zone td’s. this was an off-season focus… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just now, qnet said: The Chargers are going to be tough Based on how the defense looked...our division is going to be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just now, qnet said: The Chargers are going to be tough With this D every game will be tough. I think I said 11-6 this year and that may be pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, qnet said: The Chargers are going to be tough If the defense plays like this, everyone will be. Our division built themselves to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, KC Warpaint said: have teams figured us out????? I think they have figured out our D. Our offense scored when need up until the CEH fumble. The two drives before stalled because of those dumb rpo delayed handoffs out of the shotgun to a slow hesitant back. That last drive we were in FG range in 3 plays. I don't think anyone has us figured out. I think we shoot ourself in the foot. Andy is soft and doesn't like to put his former assistants down when he can and it hurts the mentality of this team. CEH isn't a good fit for this team if he isn't being used as a receiver...period. He's not fast enough or decisive enough in his running to really exploit the D. Not sure what is going on there but the faster that is acknowledged the better. I think this offense is going to have to revert back to 2018 until Gay gets back and Spags gets Ben off the field for good. Wouldn't hurt to get Baker up to speed because Ward hasn't looked good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Lamardirts said: I think they have figured out our D. Our offense scored when need up until the CEH fumble. The two drives before stalled because of those dumb rpo delayed handoffs out of the shotgun to a slow hesitant back. That last drive we were in FG range in 3 plays. I don't think anyone has us figured out. I think we shoot ourself in the foot. Andy is soft and doesn't like to put his former assistants down when he can and it hurts the mentality of this team. CEH isn't a good fit for this team if he isn't being used as a receiver...period. He's not fast enough or decisive enough in his running to really exploit the D. Not sure what is going on there but the faster that is acknowledged the better. I think this offense is going to have to revert back to 2018 until Gay gets back and Spags gets Ben off the field for good. Wouldn't hurt to get Baker up to speed because Ward hasn't looked good either. And get thornhill on the damn field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just now, Lamardirts said: I think they have figured out our D. Our offense scored when need up until the CEH fumble. The two drives before stalled because of those dumb rpo delayed handoffs out of the shotgun to a slow hesitant back. That last drive we were in FG range in 3 plays. I don't think anyone has us figured out. I think we shoot ourself in the foot. Andy is soft and doesn't like to put his former assistants down when he can and it hurts the mentality of this team. CEH isn't a good fit for this team if he isn't being used as a receiver...period. He's not fast enough or decisive enough in his running to really exploit the D. Not sure what is going on there but the faster that is acknowledged the better. I think this offense is going to have to revert back to 2018 until Gay gets back and Spags gets Ben off the field for good. Wouldn't hurt to get Baker up to speed because Ward hasn't looked good either. I think CEH is not showing receiving skills in practice. Does not seem in sinc. Its just a bad fit and pick. Guy is really short and seems slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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