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[reesebobby 5,662]

The draft class has some potential to be pretty good.  Would like to have a 1st rounder to go with Humphrey, Smith and Bolton, but they are looking pretty good right now.  Hoping Gray turns into something also. 

[Thegoatee 1,780]

Got to be looking for 2 or 3 pass rushers at minimum.

[reesebobby 5,662]

I'm talking about our 2021 draft class.  Bolton, Humphrey and Smith look like the real deal.  

[azchief21 5,278]

3 hours ago, reesebobby said:

The draft class has some potential to be pretty good.  Would like to have a 1st rounder to go with Humphrey, Smith and Bolton, but they are looking pretty good right now.  Hoping Gray turns into something also. 

I agree. FAs and trades lately have been not so good

[mex 65,581]

wait a minute... I thought Veach sucks?

will someone please tell me what to think this is all so confusing

[azchief21 5,278]

7 minutes ago, mex said:

wait a minute... I thought Veach sucks?

will someone please tell me what to think this is all so confusing

Sucksish. Drafts look good, FAs and trade look bad. Overall team is a mess right now

[Holmes4six! 968]

So far creed and Bolton have proven to be studs. Indeed a postive. 

[mex 65,581]

18 minutes ago, azchief21 said:

Sucksish. Drafts look good, FAs and trade look bad. Overall team is a mess right now

We'll be ok... maybe not playoffs ok, but ok for the long haul.

 

[azchief21 5,278]

28 minutes ago, mex said:

We'll be ok... maybe not playoffs ok, but ok for the long haul.

 

I don't doubt Mahomes. My concern is the A A Ron Rodgers syndrome. He came out and won a SB quickly and looked All-World. It's been 10 years since. And again, I'm just happy he brought us one!

[mex 65,581]

9 minutes ago, azchief21 said:

I don't doubt Mahomes. My concern is the A A Ron Rodgers syndrome. He came out and won a SB quickly and looked All-World. It's been 10 years since. And again, I'm just happy he brought us one!

If Patrick has a career like Rodgers, I'll be happy. It's hard to win a SB. Gotta have a top notch QB, but it takes more than that. 

[sith13 1,746]

3 solid players out of any draft is a huge win. I think 2021 draft was by far Veach's best, by comparison I think all others were simply bad or terrible. Hopefully he builds on this year, we need to get some solid rookies to win another one. 

[Calichief 3,016]

6 hours ago, Holmes4six! said:

So far creed and Bolton have proven to be studs. Indeed a postive. 

Smith is going to be the best of all of them….

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

3 hours ago, sith13 said:

3 solid players out of any draft is a huge win. I think 2021 draft was by far Veach's best, by comparison I think all others were simply bad or terrible. Hopefully he builds on this year, we need to get some solid rookies to win another one. 

Here's our 2020 picks. Are there not 3 solid players from this group? Because you just said that 3 solid players from any draft is a huge win. So which is it? Is it a huge win or is it simply bad or terrible? Or somehow both?

[reesebobby 5,662]

3 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

Here's our 2020 picks. Are there not 3 solid players from this group? Because you just said that 3 solid players from any draft is a huge win. So which is it? Is it a huge win or is it simply bad or terrible? Or somehow both?

I think you could make the case that there are 5 solid players in that group.  

[Lamardirts 2,114]

7 hours ago, sith13 said:

3 solid players out of any draft is a huge win. I think 2021 draft was by far Veach's best, by comparison I think all others were simply bad or terrible. Hopefully he builds on this year, we need to get some solid rookies to win another one. 

Well, he stopped reaching on his first picks trying to look smart and drafted the best players available with high floors and potentially high ceilings.   He only really reached for Kaindoh but that was later in the draft.   Hope he adopts this strategy moving forward.

[Lamardirts 2,114]

4 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

Here's our 2020 picks. Are there not 3 solid players from this group? Because you just said that 3 solid players from any draft is a huge win. So which is it? Is it a huge win or is it simply bad or terrible? Or somehow both?

I liked this draft at the time and talked myself into a rb in the first was ok because of Clydes skill set but have since gone back to the truth that rbs in the first are horrible decisions.   Regardless that draft has potentially landed us 4 future starters and one (current starter that should be depth) in Danna.   That’s a good draft.   Followed by a better draft imo considering we didn’t have a first rounder.   

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

1 hour ago, Lamardirts said:

I liked this draft at the time and talked myself into a rb in the first was ok because of Clydes skill set but have since gone back to the truth that rbs in the first are horrible decisions.   Regardless that draft has potentially landed us 4 future starters and one (current starter that should be depth) in Danna.   That’s a good draft.   Followed by a better draft imo considering we didn’t have a first round pick.

I've come to the realization that the first round is just too valuable a pick to use on a position where you can find legit studs in mid to late rounds. I'm willing to admit I was wrong there.

The part that I think people here get confused is value relative to draft slot versus overall talent. CEH is not a bust. And he will be a good player for us. It's not his fault he was drafted rd 1. In rd 3 people would have called him a steal. And maybe that's where he belonged.

But CEH "the player" has talent. CEH " the 1st rounder" is an overdraft. 

[artsy 1,137]

8 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

I've come to the realization that the first round is just too valuable a pick to use on a position where you can find legit studs in mid to late rounds. I'm willing to admit I was wrong there.

The part that I think people here get confused is value relative to draft slot versus overall talent. CEH is not a bust. And he will be a good player for us. It's not his fault he was drafted rd 1. In rd 3 people would have called him a steal. And maybe that's where he belonged.

But CEH "the player" has talent. CEH " the 1st rounder" is an overdraft. 

Yup, I would've happy if CEH was taken in the 3rd..Not the 1st. total waste.

[sith13 1,746]

6 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

Here's our 2020 picks. Are there not 3 solid players from this group? Because you just said that 3 solid players from any draft is a huge win. So which is it? Is it a huge win or is it simply bad or terrible? Or somehow both?

Sneed is solid and as long as he stays healthy and keeps playing I think Gay will become solid as well. Both Niang and Danna have nice potential but we need them to actually become decent players to be called solid. 

I think 2020 has potential and I like most of the picks but wouldn't call it a good draft without seeing the return.

[DieHard 2,061]

8 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

Here's our 2020 picks. Are there not 3 solid players from this group? Because you just said that 3 solid players from any draft is a huge win. So which is it? Is it a huge win or is it simply bad or terrible? Or somehow both?

Our best RB, best LB, best CB and best DE.  With a future starter at OT.  You should have picked another draft I think.

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

5 hours ago, DieHard said:

Our best RB, best LB, best CB and best DE.  With a future starter at OT.  You should have picked another draft I think.

Maybe you should read the post I was responding to. Because you clearly didn't understand the point I was trying to make. 

[Lamardirts 2,114]

7 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

I've come to the realization that the first round is just too valuable a pick to use on a position where you can find legit studs in mid to late rounds. I'm willing to admit I was wrong there.

The part that I think people here get confused is value relative to draft slot versus overall talent. CEH is not a bust. And he will be a good player for us. It's not his fault he was drafted rd 1. In rd 3 people would have called him a steal. And maybe that's where he belonged.

But CEH "the player" has talent. CEH " the 1st rounder" is an overdraft. 

Absolutely agree luv.   1st round picks need to be for the top tier positions unless it’s a once in a generation player.   WR, LB, RB, S, C, or Gs should be 1st round picks.   DE, OT, QB, DB, and the occasional DT regardless of what is on your roster.  Look at the Bills they kept stacking their Dline until they are loaded.   Every elite D has an elite pass rusher.   Can’t have one without it.   I’m with you luv 100%

[Lamardirts 2,114]

5 hours ago, DieHard said:

Our best RB, best LB, best CB and best DE.  With a future starter at OT.  You should have picked another draft I think.

Danna isn’t our best DE.  He’s a great depth piece but he’s a high motor backup.  Thankful for him and he is tremendous value there but he shouldn’t be starting for us.  Also RB, LB which were needs are low on the positional value chart.  Sneed saved this draft.

[DefensiveMan 758]

43 minutes ago, Lamardirts said:

Danna isn’t our best DE.  He’s a great depth piece but he’s a high motor backup.  Thankful for him and he is tremendous value there but he shouldn’t be starting for us.  Also RB, LB which were needs are low on the positional value chart.  Sneed saved this draft.

Sneed hasn't lived up this year. Can you blame him though?

[CranjisMcbasketball 780]

I actually disagree that clyde would have been a “steal” in round 3. He looks like a round 5-7 rb talent wise to me.

i do agree danna is our best de