offense

[oldtimer 8,686]

22 minutes ago, AFCWEST said:

Talking head chatter is worthless. Its an amazing thing until it doesnt work. Next time they will rave when it goes for 50 yards and a TD. 

Oh yea I get that but when that Talking Head played the game especially at WR as annoying as he is to me his observations holds more water IMO than say Kevin Kietzman or Booger saying it.  I mean for playing in the 80's 5 of his 8 year career he had over 1000 yrds. 

[AFCWEST 1,238]

18 minutes ago, oldtimer said:

Oh yea I get that but when that Talking Head played the game especially at WR as annoying as he is to me his observations holds more water IMO than say Kevin Kietzman or Booger saying it.  I mean for playing in the 80's 5 of his 8 year career he had over 1000 yrds. 

Yes agree. He is also the same guy that raved about Mahomes unique throwing angels over and over again.

[oldtimer 8,686]

29 minutes ago, AFCWEST said:

Yes agree. He is also the same guy that raved about Mahomes unique throwing angels over and over again.

and to circle back to my original post  is that it seemed to me even prior to Turkey Neck mentioning it that Patrick seemed to think he was more shortstop than QB..yes when needed it's an awesome skill to have but some of those throws  IMHO would of been better served being thrown like your typical Qb.

 This has gone full circle  and I have more firewood to split before the next cold spell hits. 

 Have a great day AFC

[azchief21 5,278]

4 minutes ago, oldtimer said:

before the next cold spell hits. 

I hear you. Dipped into the 60s here

[arthur75 415]

I just think no one was saying shit when the offense was shredding everyone. Now that people are trying to get Mahomes to be more like this or that or throw like this or that he is having problems. LET THIS DUDE PLAY BALL. I mean the way he was playing was working.. Leave him alone and let him play instead of  thinking of mechanics.

[bamaroyal 87]

We all know the team has yet to play their best football... Too many dropped passes "If the ball hits the receiver in both hands it should be caught, regardless of how hard it's thrown"...

Also too many times players are not set before the snap. Kelce casually walking to the line last week is a good example... He could have been called for it before that particular play too... Same for some of the WR's 

I believe they will get things corrected and peak at the right time!

Just stay healthy and run a bit more between the tackles and the conference will be theirs...

[jetlord 10,209]

3 hours ago, oldtimer said:

take it for what it's worth but ol Turkey Neck Collinsworth eluded to his many sidearm passes..not sure I remember him being that way previously but then I could be wrong.Again  it just appears to me he has gotten sloppy on his techniques. As much as I like Kafka maybe a more accomplished QB as coach would be better suited to Mold a young Patrick 

True, but hasn't Mahomes always thrown a lot of sidearm passes?  I agree with Collinsworth that overhand is usually more accurate and the sidearms should be reserved for throwing around close in linemen, but I'm not sure Mahomes has changed his style from his more successful seasons.  

[Biggjliv4 1,292]

Mahomes is gonna Mahomes which is what makes him great. Get a big possession WR that can catch next year and it should be transformative. 

[DefensiveMan 758]

55 minutes ago, Biggjliv4 said:

Mahomes is gonna Mahomes which is what makes him great. Get a big possession WR that can catch next year and it should be transformative. 

Josh Gordon ? 

[Biggjliv4 1,292]

16 minutes ago, DefensiveMan said:

Josh Gordon ? 

Washed up 

[Calichief 3,016]

30 minutes ago, DefensiveMan said:

Josh Gordon ? 

Guy is pulling a tractor trailer. And mahomes won’t even look at him.

[Spfdchiefsfan 621]

11 hours ago, oldtimer said:

of course he did..did you hear him say that as you were holding everyone's water?

Lol just teasing Dale.  It's not inconceivable that the coach also told the QB to throw better passes.. he's a coach after all

No, I was the one throwing it to them!  LOL and my coach definitely told me to throw better passes!

[oldtimer 8,686]

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2021/12/9/22826902/eric-bieniemy-becomes-the-latest-to-talk-chiefs-drops?fbclid=IwAR3_ocLBGxp_w4ooFeFEdTSedz6u1ojVVZW_lVhuIjkQO0-HPiBe0mMi7ZQ

Eric Bieniemy becomes the latest to talk Chiefs’ drops

Back to the JUGS machine, says the former running back.

Our John Dixon covered how quarterback Patrick Mahomes (perhaps) unrightfully took the blame for the turnovers on Wednesday.

“Those guys are always catching footballs — before and after practice, during practice — but I think for me, as a quarterback, I’ve got to throw the ball in better places,” Mahomes insisted during his turn at the podium on Wednesday. “Some of those drops are because the ball is not in the right place. So if I can get the ball in a better place where it’s more catchable — especially when they’re in traffic — it’ll probably cut down on those numbers. It has as much to do with me as it does with them.”

[azchief21 5,278]

On 12/9/2021 at 9:14 AM, azchief21 said:

Let's see how Mahomes finishes the year. If he doesn't pick it up, we package him in a deal to move up in the draft to get his replacement. 

Hopefully everybody noted the sarcasm. Brought us 2 SB appearances and a Title after 50 years. I think he's the best in the league and will be one of the best ever. Got a feeling we'll be in another SB this year.

[timmy_6262 77]

one of the biggest things I worry about is if we get behind by 10-14 can our offense dig us back out?  All it takes 1 mistake on defense and its 7 points.  Lately our offense hasn't shown the ability other than the first 15 to put together scoring drives consistently.

[artsy 1,137]

1 hour ago, timmy_6262 said:

one of the biggest things I worry about is if we get behind by 10-14 can our offense dig us back out?  All it takes 1 mistake on defense and its 7 points.  Lately our offense hasn't shown the ability other than the first 15 to put together scoring drives consistently.

Great point Timmy. I think we're all wondering if they can do it. Hell, the last 3 years, no lead was insurmountable. I'm sure we'll get a chance to see if they can before the Post season starts, but I'm very curious if they got it in them to come from behind like they used to. 

[DieHard 2,061]

3 hours ago, oldtimer said:

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2021/12/9/22826902/eric-bieniemy-becomes-the-latest-to-talk-chiefs-drops?fbclid=IwAR3_ocLBGxp_w4ooFeFEdTSedz6u1ojVVZW_lVhuIjkQO0-HPiBe0mMi7ZQ

Eric Bieniemy becomes the latest to talk Chiefs’ drops

Back to the JUGS machine, says the former running back.

Our John Dixon covered how quarterback Patrick Mahomes (perhaps) unrightfully took the blame for the turnovers on Wednesday.

“Those guys are always catching footballs — before and after practice, during practice — but I think for me, as a quarterback, I’ve got to throw the ball in better places,” Mahomes insisted during his turn at the podium on Wednesday. “Some of those drops are because the ball is not in the right place. So if I can get the ball in a better place where it’s more catchable — especially when they’re in traffic — it’ll probably cut down on those numbers. It has as much to do with me as it does with them.”

I just love that Pat always falls on the sword for his brothers. Andy is the same way. It is so classy.

[DieHard 2,061]

6 minutes ago, artsy said:

Great point Timmy. I think we're all wondering if they can do it. Hell, the last 3 years, no lead was insurmountable. I'm sure we'll get a chance to see if they can before the Post season starts, but I'm very curious if they got it in them to come from behind like they used to. 

Same players with an improved line. I have no doubt they can and will. Hoping they don’t have to. Spags is killing it and I hope we continue to play tough D. The O has so much explosion that I am not worried about mid season doldrums. 

[AFCWEST 1,238]

Why Reid has Success per J Charles Article. This does relate to todays offense going forward.

Charles joined me on (Almost) Entirely Sports to talk about his career, life since football, and the ups and downs of his time in Kansas City. He provided some fantastic insight on all of those recent eras of Chiefs football, particularly in regards to what happened when Reid came to KC, following a difficult era for the franchise.

"We had some bumpy roads," Charles began with a laugh. "But Coach Reid, basically, he's a [player's coach]. He loves his players, he talks to his players, he communicates with his players, he's honest with his players. That's why so many people like him a lot."

Charles explained how Reid's relationship with his players even extended into game-planning sessions, recounting a time that Reid involved him in a way no other coach had before.

"One day, Coach Reid called me into the office," Charles said, before beginning to paraphrase Reid. "'Hey, I got these five plays right here on the board right here, we're thinking about giving you the ball right here.' I never had no coach approach me like this. 'Hey, come talk to me in the office, I got these plays drawn up just for you.' And I'm like, I'm hyped up! So stuff like that, Coach Reid, he does it his way and he knows his way is successful."

Pulling examples from the current iteration of the Chiefs, Charles explained how Reid delegates leadership through the locker room. Leaning on player-leaders like Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Chris Jones, Tyrann Mathieu and others who have the respect of the rest of the roster, Charles said Reid allows the team to communicate through their top peers to keep the locker room where it needs to be.

"He goes to those core guys that people know that this is their team, and the other guys, [...] he lets them go talk to them," Charles said. "And if they have any issues, those ten guys come to Coach Reid and we all throw out, 'What's the deal going on in locker room?' And he listens. And then he'll make some adjustments, and that's how good he is, instead of a coach who's just rebelling against his players."

The phrase "instead of a coach who's just rebelling against his players" caught my ear as Charles harkened back to the less-good-ol'-days, where the team struggled despite his best efforts from 2008 through 2012. Charles maintains that the Chiefs' former leaders were all good coaches, but — for one reason or another — they couldn't find success in Kansas City.

"My first year, it was Coach Herman," Charles began. "He was a good coach — good coach! — but I feel like all the pieces he put together as a coaching staff, it just wasn't there.

You got certain coaches [who] come in and think they're the man and think they're this and that, and that didn't work. Next, we had [Haley]. Coach Haley [was] a good coach, but he's so arrogant as a coach, where [he was] talking to his players crazy. It's his way, he's not taking your opinions, you know what I'm saying? Basically, so, players are not feeling him. That's how it's not working."

Charles then recounted the short tenure of Crennel in the last year-and-change before Reid's regime.

"I felt bad for Coach Romeo," Charles said. "Romeo came in, and he's so friendly. He was so nice, but he didn't have that chance to get that another year. And then that's when coach Andy Reid came. And it was just like, 'dang man, where have you been all my career?'"

With Reid, Charles totaled 3,899 yards from scrimmage in just 38 games, holding an even 5.0 yards per carry and 8.8 yards per reception, catching almost as many passes (133) in 38 games with Reid as he did in 65 games (152 receptions) before Reid got to town.

Charles explained how Reid was the coach who truly understood and utilized his ability to catch the ball and maximized his talents in a new way. But perhaps even more unique to Reid and his staff, Charles explained how Reid had a philosophy for his players that he hadn't encountered before: "Let them be them."

"All these other coaches were like, 'we're gonna put you in this mold. I'll mold you like I want you,' instead of Coach Reid, he'd let you do your own identity," Charles said. "That's you. Be your own person. I never heard nobody say that when they came to the Chiefs. He's like, 'be yourself.' I'm like, 'what? Did you say I can be myself now? All these others, I couldn't be myself!' It felt good, it was a release of freedom, basically. Just act like your character, like you're supposed to be. This is your character, and don't do nothing else. Be yourself."


Charles joined (Almost) Entirely Sports in partnership with Main Event, a family-entertainment center with 45 locations across 17 states, featuring activities like bowling, laser tag, virtual reality, games and much more. Through November 30, guests can purchase the Jamaal Charles Family Package at Main Event's three Kansas City-area locations, which includes one VR game, one $10 game card, one unlimited activity such as bowling, billiards or laser tag, an unlimited fountain drink and one large pizza for the group, all for $24.99 per person.

Listen: Jamaal Charles on Andy Reid, Eric Bieniemy and Much More
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[Calichief 3,016]

 

[azchief21 5,278]

11 minutes ago, Calichief said:

 

Maybe we've had our WR2 all along. Just need to target more.  48 in 15 games.

[Calichief 3,016]

4 hours ago, azchief21 said:

Maybe we've had our WR2 all along. Just need to target more.  48 in 15 games.

I thought he was the guy going into the season. I’m on record saying it somewhere.  I still think we’ll have to go get one. A big body chain mover. That or it’s fortsen.

[Calichief 3,016]

Gore is that guy. He has serious explosion. He has the goods.

[sith13 1,746]

3 hours ago, Calichief said:

Gore is that guy. He has serious explosion. He has the goods.

I like the Williams & Gore duo in the backfield. They compliment each other very well and both know how to stay up for those extra yards. 

[xen 1,010,220]

On 12/31/2021 at 3:29 PM, azchief21 said:

Maybe we've had our WR2 all along. Just need to target more.  48 in 15 games.

He still struggles vs man coverage so I don't think he's the guy.  Good complimentary player though and has really come on vs all this zone we're seeing.