DefensiveMan 758 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 A lot of it has to do with good rhythm and play-calling. This helps blocking schemes as well. Kniles is a work horse and only gets better as the game progresses. I attribute a lot of that to the big man, Andy Reid and RB's coach Bienemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shadow Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I am about this. Marshawn Lynch Jamaal Charles DeMarco Murray C.J. Spiller Le'Veon Bell Reggie Bush Giovanni Bernard Adrian Peterson Darren Sproles Frank Gore Arian Foster Eddie Lacy Matt Forte Alfred Morris LeSean McCoy Doug Martin Zac Stacy Andre Ellington That's 18 RB better than Knile. Then there's a whole group of other backs you can argue. Knile is not a stud. Knile has a career YPC of 3.6. Knile is a fine backup. Next! How many of those 18 ran for over 130yds yesterday? He was a stud yesterday and would start on at least 15 other teams, he's not an all out top 10 back yet but he's better than most of the starters in the league! He's also our RBOTF!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 How many of those 18 ran for over 130yds yesterday? He was a stud yesterday and would start on at least 15 other teams, he's not an all out top 10 back yet but he's better than most of the starters in the league! He's also our RBOTF!! Definitely rbotf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo 92 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWil 30 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 And what of Davis' underwhelming 3.9 yards per carry? Or that he ranks 43 in yards after contact per carry. He doesn't break tackles all that well. You can scoff at rankings all you want. I don't need stats. I see it with my own eyes. Explain to me what makes Knile Davis so special? Please tell me. He's a fine backup. Wasn't saying anything about Knile, just pointing out PFF is a joke, their ratings are one of the last things people should go by to determine how good or bad a player is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smoulder 89 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 RBs don't develop over time? Tell that to Charles who was a backup his first couple seasons. I could tell immediately that Charles was something special, and was calling for him to have a Hall of Fame career well before his rookie contract was up. JC didn't "develop over time" to become an absolute freak of nature - that's whatcha call innate talent, a gift from the football gods. #25's position on the depth chart in his early professional career was based on coach factors (favoritism for LJ, overemphasis on the fumbles which are more than compensated for by the home run threat, and unfounded concerns about durability) rather than Jamaal's readiness for the role. Sure, he had a bit of a learning curve for pass protection and ball security, but Jamaal Charles' fundamental potential for greatness was readily apparent from day 1 for anyone with the eyes to see it. Knile Davis is not in Charles' league. He is, as mongo stated, a quality backup, and we're fortunate to have him on the roster. You can win some games with Knile - you can never expect him to carry the entire offense over the course a season the way Charles has done, though. That's no knock, since JC is arguably one of the ten best to ever play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo 92 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Wasn't saying anything about Knile, just pointing out PFF is a joke, their ratings are one of the last things people should go by to determine how good or bad a player is. Any stat has anomalies, but it isn't subjective. All players are measured by the same criteria. It's left to one to interpret the meaning and relevance of the stat. In the case of PFF's rating on Knile Davis, I don't agree that he's the 52nd best back, no more than I would that Lesean McCoy, Eddie Lacy or some others scoring poorly are. There are guys scoring highly that I would prefer Knile to. I do look at his YPC as a key indicator and it is poor. As I said it's a by-product of a poor line, but the great ones, the "studs", can achieve in spite of a bad line. See Jamaal Charles, Barry Sanders. Most importantly, I've watched football for 40 years and I've seen several "stud" RB. From Walter Payton to Adrian Peterson. Nothing I've seen from him reminds me of any of them. Nothing he has shown has even indicates he has that potiential. He's a fine backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Any stat has anomalies, but it isn't subjective. All players are measured by the same criteria. It's left to one to interpret the meaning and relevance of the stat. In the case of PFF's rating on Knile Davis, I don't agree that he's the 52nd best back, no more than I would that Lesean McCoy, Eddie Lacy or some others scoring poorly are. There are guys scoring highly that I would prefer Knile to. I do look at his YPC as a key indicator and it is poor. As I said it's a by-product of a poor line, but the great ones, the "studs", can achieve in spite of a bad line. See Jamaal Charles, Barry Sanders. Most importantly, I've watched football for 40 years and I've seen several "stud" RB. From Walter Payton to Adrian Peterson. Nothing I've seen from him reminds me of any of them. Nothing he has shown has even indicates he has that potiential. He's a fine backup. Although I share in your realistic pessimism the majority of the time, I'm beginning to wonder what would actually make you happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcchief4lif 910 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 No one disagreeing with him. No wait, I think he actually likes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 No one disagreeing with him. No wait, I think he actually likes that. It's a reasonable question, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 No one disagreeing with him. No wait, I think he actually likes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo 92 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Although I share in your realistic pessimism the majority of the time, I'm beginning to wonder what would actually make you happy? There's nothing "pessimistic" about what I've said. Knile Davis is a fine backup. I'm happy as a clam. Ask the others who can't seem to accept that he isn't the next Eric Dickerson what their issue is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo 92 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 No one disagreeing with him. No wait, I think he actually likes that. Na, I could really care less if you agree with me or not. However, should you challenge my opinion expect a rebuttal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 There's nothing "pessimistic" about what I've said. Knile Davis is a fine backup. I'm happy as a clam. Ask the others who can't seem to accept that he isn't the next Eric Dickerson what their issue is. I think given the opportunity Knile might be a dynamic starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I think given the opportunity Knile might be a dynamic starter. With an O-line like we had with LJ, I think he could do as well as LJ did. He has the size and speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 With an O-line like we had with LJ, I think he could do as well as LJ did. He has the size and speed. He MUST solve his fumbling problems though. I read that he's is one of three rb's in the league so far with three fumbles this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo 92 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 With an O-line like we had with LJ, I think he could do as well as LJ did. He has the size and speed. I might be able to run effectively behind that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I might be able to run effectively behind that line. No shit. They were unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 605 Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 http://arrowheadaddict.com/2014/09/23/alex-smith-chiefs-quarterbacks-stats-skyrocket-jamaal-charles-sidelined/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsLockKey 8 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 With an O-line like we had with LJ, I think he could do as well as LJ did. He has the size and speed.Davis has more speed than LJ ever did. Remember he had a 108 yard kick return last year. Does he have JC speed? No, but very few do. For his size though he has some wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I told you guys this year was going to be fascinating. We are the third youngest team in the NFL, and these young dudes are getting a lot of experience. The future is bright. We are going to lose a lot of games this year, but the toughness and the talent are developing before our eyes. I refuse in coming weeks to get too down when we stink the place up. Which we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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