THEWIZARD 247 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 https://arrowheadaddict.com/2022/02/15/kc-chiefs-name-nick-bolton-rookie-year/ This is kind of surprising. Bolton was a beast but I would have thought it would be Creed. I guess it just shows what an outstanding draft they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted February 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, THEWIZARD said: https://arrowheadaddict.com/2022/02/15/kc-chiefs-name-nick-bolton-rookie-year/ This is kind of surprising. Bolton was a beast but I would have thought it would be Creed. I guess it just shows what an outstanding draft they had. One played every snap of every game and rated best C in the league while the other kept getting pulled for Neiman or Hitchens. No complaints about Bolton getting it, but more of a complaint we had a DC who kept choosing familiarity over talent/ability. Iluvhouse24, azchief21, West and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I love Bolton's performance and he is a beast but Creed is definitely the ROY for us and it's not even close. What I love more is the number of rookies who were awesome throughout the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieHard 2,061 Posted February 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2022 I like that you could legit have 3 rookies in that conversation. Great draft. sith13, West, qnet and 4 others 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I was surprised it wasn't Creed too... but the team votes on this award so there could be some internal politics playing I'm kinda glad it was Bolton because it will put more pressure to keep him in for every snap next season hopefully West, qnet and Troyofoc 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 and the other young lb is a stud... Veach is pretty good. w mex and qnet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Players voted. Bolton did lead the team in tackles and tackles for loss as a rotational LB. We killed that draft like others have stated that 3 guys were in the running for that award and all three have a legitimate case. That is an awesome problem to have. I actually hope we have it again for the next 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Lamardirts said: Players voted. Bolton did lead the team in tackles and tackles for loss as a rotational LB. We killed that draft like others have stated that 3 guys were in the running for that award and all three have a legitimate case. That is an awesome problem to have. I actually hope we have it again for the next 2-3 years. Bolton had 30 more tackles than the next closest guy 👀 oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 If we can draft three or four competent starters a year, we will be in the running every season. We seemed to draft guys that could play day one instead of projects. My advice: never draft projects again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Thegoatee said: If we can draft three or four competent starters a year, we will be in the running every season. We seemed to draft guys that could play day one instead of projects. My advice: never draft projects again. Tyreek (rb to wr) and Pat (lots of questions) were both projects. So was Kelce (HS qb converted to TE and kicked off his college team) Sneed was a safety his senior year. Gay was a huge project. If you never take a chance on projects drafting as late as we do... qnet and DieHard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, xen said: Tyreek (rb to wr) and Pat (lots of questions) were both projects. So was Kelce (HS qb converted to TE and kicked off his college team) Sneed was a safety his senior year. Gay was a huge project. If you never take a chance on projects drafting as late as we do... I’d argue you are mostly conflating risky picks with projects. Anybody who saw Mahomes in preseason as a rookie knew he was going to be something else and was far more ready than they imagined. None of these guys are like Ford, KPass, Speaks, LDT, DAT, Catapano, etc. I realize most draft picks don’t pan out, but my goodness, we had some BAD draft classes in the Reid era. Heck, everyone taken along with Mahomes isn’t on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I really like Bolton, but didn't think about Humphrey, all good points. I was so focused on any good defensive player. I love how Bolton tackles guys, he doesn't screw around. He's gotten beat, but it's always at an awkward position or when someone else misses also. I'm sure he's got beat one on one, but most of the time he mans up, and gets the player down. I liked how he attacked Derrick Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 11 hours ago, xen said: Tyreek (rb to wr) and Pat (lots of questions) were both projects. So was Kelce (HS qb converted to TE and kicked off his college team) Sneed was a safety his senior year. Gay was a huge project. If you never take a chance on projects drafting as late as we do... Trey Smith. Brian Waters was an undrafted DE. Every UDFA is pretty much a project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Thegoatee said: I’d argue you are mostly conflating risky picks with projects. Anybody who saw Mahomes in preseason as a rookie knew he was going to be something else and was far more ready than they imagined. None of these guys are like Ford, KPass, Speaks, LDT, DAT, Catapano, etc. I realize most draft picks don’t pan out, but my goodness, we had some BAD draft classes in the Reid era. Heck, everyone taken along with Mahomes isn’t on the roster. I'd argue you need to define what you mean by project then. Sounds like you're just arguing we needed to draft better. Most players are out of the NFL after 3 years so it's not that surprising oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,598 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 hours ago, xen said: I'd argue you need to define what you mean by project then. Sounds like you're just arguing we needed to draft better. Most players are out of the NFL after 3 years so it's not that surprising And some of those mentioned were 6th round type picks... I mean this is where you go for a project types or ones with huge upsides etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 QB is an exceptional position and unless your team really sucks you generally have to give up multiple picks for one. However other than that a single pick should equal a single player as in the end every rookie is a project. However raw players should be selected later in the draft as the return on investment in terms of the cap is very critical in this environment. Anyone selected in the first 3 rounds should either be starting or have a decent place in the rotation and if you have to wait a few years for any of them to show up then it's a bad pick. Again QB is the exception and there's nothing wrong with the LT sitting out as a swing tackle for a year IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 3 hours ago, xen said: I'd argue you need to define what you mean by project then. Sounds like you're just arguing we needed to draft better. Most players are out of the NFL after 3 years so it's not that surprising Project is so raw they need a lot of time to marinate. People who come from weird schools or have no position they natively fit and would have to learn something different. I think Gay was literally one of the best LBs, if not the best graded, but scared everyone with his mental / off field concern. Hill was radioactive, but would have been a much higher pick if he didn’t get deservedly banished. Creed and Bolton were the types of guys that are ready to play or not. So was Smith, sans health concerns. If you want to waste a 7th on a Kpass, fine. But 2nd round? Speaks who didn’t have a natural scheme fit in the 2nd? Those were bad picks among many bad picks, but they were projects because they were not ready or capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I cringe at times when a player gets drafted and the description basically is "he's an athletic freak"....or he "fits the type" before anyone gets to whether or not the player was productive or whether he was good against the better competition. Bolton played in the SEC and led in tackles against top tier talent. I'll take that on a resume ahead of freakish athleticism. oldtimer and qnet 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, dhitter said: I cringe at times when a player gets drafted and the description basically is "he's an athletic freak"....or he "fits the type" before anyone gets to whether or not the player was productive or whether he was good against the better competition. Bolton played in the SEC and led in tackles against top tier talent. I'll take that on a resume ahead of freakish athleticism. To your point. Bolton was too small, too slow, couldn’t cover. Whatever the knocks on him were. He has the instincts and just produces. So glad he fell to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, DieHard said: To your point. Bolton was too small, too slow, couldn’t cover. Whatever the knocks on him were. He has the instincts and just produces. So glad he fell to us. Quite a bit of stars had some red flags coming out. Hopefully Bolton will end up the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 6 hours ago, xen said: And I assume Bolton had a significant less amount of snaps. oldtimer and qnet 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xen 1,010,220 Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Troyofoc said: And I assume Bolton had a significant less amount of snaps. 332 less snaps than Leonard azchief21, artsy, Troyofoc and 3 others 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 9 hours ago, xen said: 332 less snaps than Leonard yea, cause hitchens was so good that had to keep bolton on a pitch count! (LOL) oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, artsy said: yea, cause hitchens was so good that had to keep bolton on a pitch count! (LOL) Don’t forget Neimann too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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