xen 1,010,220 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Ouch! Seemed like one of the few coaches on our staff that could develop young players. artsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 He seemed to get out lot out of the CB's we had, don't like losing him. artsy and Lamardirts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Just posted an article that mentioned players having a beef with him similar to EB. Not sure the details or what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Players had major issues with him. All in line with the Bienemy shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: Just posted an article that mentioned players having a beef with him similar to EB. Not sure the details or what happened. 12 minutes ago, Calichief said: Players had major issues with him. All in line with the Bienemy shit. Interesting, I hadn't heard that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, qnet said: Interesting, I hadn't heard that It could be speculation as it’s in an article. however there are too many things that make some sense in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Calichief said: It could be speculation as it’s in an article. however there are too many things that make some sense in there Yeah, I just read through it. I hope that's not what happened but, It's hard to ignore being a diehard Chiefs fan. If it really is true I hope Reid has it in him to bring it all out, no matter the pushback. With the respect he has around the league, I don't think people would blame him for it. Good lord. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 A bit surprising since he has been turning a lame investment into gold in the secondary. Not sure how that's possible with the players not liking him but may be it was a relatively new thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Meh, we seemed to develop some young cbs, but we also had opposing wide receivers running wide open due to blown coverages constantly. I assume that is spags fault because of an over complicated scheme, but I can’t imagine our secondary coach was helping the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Meh, we seemed to develop some young cbs, but we also had opposing wide receivers running wide open due to blown coverages constantly. I assume that is spags fault because of an over complicated scheme, but I can’t imagine our secondary coach was helping the situation you are full of assumptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, oldtimer said: you are full of assumptions Do you have a better explanation as to why our secondary is constantly confused? That should never happen especially when you have “mastermind” tyrann mathieu back there to direct them. Too complicated of scheme was the knock on bob sutton that no one wanted to admit, except that when he was fired they admitted that was the reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Given how much we pay our CBs and don’t draft early on them, I think the coaching was pretty darn good relative to investment. Defensive line on the other hand… artsy, CranjisMcbasketball and oldtimer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Do you have a better explanation as to why our secondary is constantly confused? That should never happen especially when you have “mastermind” tyrann mathieu back there to direct them. Too complicated of scheme was the knock on bob sutton that no one wanted to admit, except that when he was fired they admitted that was the reason I think some players are just not as smart as others. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 8 hours ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Do you have a better explanation as to why our secondary is constantly confused? That should never happen especially when you have “mastermind” tyrann mathieu back there to direct them. Too complicated of scheme was the knock on bob sutton that no one wanted to admit, except that when he was fired they admitted that was the reason Define "constantly". Would be good if you had some data to back this assertion. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I remember Bill Belichick explaining a defensive formation the Chiefs were running when Sutton was DC. He pointed out how a player had screwed up. The player messing up wasn't the primary thing he was talking about, it was just something he mentioned while talking about the whole sequence. Soloman Wicots did the same thing while covering a Chiefs game during the DV years. Coaches mess up, but a lot of it is on the player's intelligence and talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Is that the same Sam Madison that played opposite Surtain in Miami before we got Surtain? Damn I feel old, especially with Surtain and Antoine Winfield having children playing in the league. If Jim Kelly has a great grandson in the draft, I'm outta here. SEMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 7 hours ago, moons314 said: Is that the same Sam Madison that played opposite Surtain in Miami before we got Surtain? Damn I feel old, especially with Surtain and Antoine Winfield having children playing in the league. If Jim Kelly has a great grandson in the draft, I'm outta here. I thought it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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