kkuenn 3,598 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 If all else was even, mahomes is a far superior talent. His ability to process, with photographic memory, his drive etc. Even watching all these nfl shows and them talking about the QBs in the west 90% of them rated it as Mahomes, Herbert, Wilson then Carr in that order. This is after all the moved and before we signed JJ. Many, even before have stated Mahomes is the best in the NFL. Sure you have a guy now and then throw in Rodgers etc but it makes better for the tv. Not much fun to sit there and warch them always agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 hours ago, sith13 said: Other QBs are competitive but none of them take away the Mahomes' advantage. They need better tools around their QBs to compete with us but none of them would be able to beat Mahomes if the remaining tools were exactly the same. So the complaint by KC fans was no number 2 for PM, that lousy oline etc. Well Oline got fixed and the #2 over all , was as effective as Watkins was. If Kelce or Hill went down would Mahomes suffer? Yes. PM needs tools too. If you argue no number three then its tools. Cant have it both ways. Burrow got sacked 51 times last year , beat KC twice and went to the SB. Josh Allen on this KC team would have it all. Wilson or Herbert on this team would rock and roll too. Put any of those Qbs on the KC roster and they would have success. Maybe not all are a good fit but thats a different topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 20 hours ago, AFCWEST said: So the complaint by KC fans was no number 2 for PM, that lousy oline etc. Well Oline got fixed and the #2 over all , was as effective as Watkins was. If Kelce or Hill went down would Mahomes suffer? Yes. PM needs tools too. If you argue no number three then its tools. Cant have it both ways. Burrow got sacked 51 times last year , beat KC twice and went to the SB. Josh Allen on this KC team would have it all. Wilson or Herbert on this team would rock and roll too. Put any of those Qbs on the KC roster and they would have success. Maybe not all are a good fit but thats a different topic. True but with Mahomes in town the definition of success is the SB, the rest is seen as a failure. It wouldn't be so with any of those QBs. However you are approaching the topic in a whole other way which is kind of irrelevant to your original claim of other QBs being just as good. For example Burrow didn't beat Mahomes because he's more talented, he beat Mahomes because Reid f*cked up in both games. Coaching failures during the game don't really take away the talent from the QB. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 17 hours ago, AFCWEST said: So the complaint by KC fans was no number 2 for PM, that lousy oline etc. Well Oline got fixed and the #2 over all , was as effective as Watkins was. If Kelce or Hill went down would Mahomes suffer? Yes. PM needs tools too. If you argue no number three then its tools. Cant have it both ways. Burrow got sacked 51 times last year , beat KC twice and went to the SB. Josh Allen on this KC team would have it all. Wilson or Herbert on this team would rock and roll too. Put any of those Qbs on the KC roster and they would have success. Maybe not all are a good fit but thats a different topic. That's just objectively not true. You can't go by overall stats. It was very clear during the last 2 seasons that our X could not consistently get off press, which strained the offense when we played better teams. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,598 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 5 hours ago, xen said: That's just objectively not true. You can't go by overall stats. It was very clear during the last 2 seasons that our X could not consistently get off press, which strained the offense when we played better teams. Lol yet in previous post he says stats dont tell it all. Who do you want as our QB AFCWEST? Simple question, with all you have said, who would you want? One choice and answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Might sound a little homerish but if you don't think Mahomes is the best QB in the league or he wouldn't be your 1st choice when putting together a team, then you're nuttier than squirrel turds. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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