Lamardirts 2,114 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 The urgency and maybe desperation of the other AFC West and even the top tier AFC teams in trying to surpass the Chiefs? Teams are paying older vets in hopes of taking down the Chiefs. The Chargers went all out on D. The Broncos sold the farm for Russ. The Raiders doing Raider things with a 29 year old WR. Curious to see what Veach has in store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post xen 1,010,220 Posted March 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2022 Burpo The Mad Clown, sith13, ATLchief and 4 others 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 8:59 PM, xen said: Don't let OT find out you got a tweeter account xen, azchief21 and oldtimer 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 And Browns trading for Watson. AFC is stacked. It’s going to be a crazy year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, DieHard said: And Browns trading for Watson. AFC is stacked. It’s going to be a crazy year. I seriously dont see Watson as a major upgrade or an upgrade at all for that matter and I believe he still has legal issues a head of him. sith13 and NCK Chiefs Fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I seriously dont see Watson as a major upgrade or an upgrade at all for that matter and I believe he still has legal issues a head of him. He does. It will be interesting. Baker had everything you could want and didn’t do much with it. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpo The Mad Clown 5,554 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I seriously dont see Watson as a major upgrade or an upgrade at all for that matter and I believe he still has legal issues a head of him. Agreed. I don’t get the deal at all. Seems like the Browns were in full panic mode and traded their future for one guy who, I assume, they believe is the missing piece of the puzzle. And he still has something like 25 lawsuits to deal with. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCK Chiefs Fan 425 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Burpo The Mad Clown said: Agreed. I don’t get the deal at all. Seems like the Browns were in full panic mode and traded their future for one guy who, I assume, they believe is the missing piece of the puzzle. And he still has something like 25 lawsuits to deal with. and you can bet that when the pending 25 lawsuits find out about that amount, they will go after just about every penny of that 230 mil fully for guaranteed for 5 years. qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 The Browns are just enacting the Major League protocol. Be so terrible you can justify moving somewhere new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 lol this is crazy SEMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 4:57 PM, oldtimer said: I seriously dont see Watson as a major upgrade or an upgrade at all for that matter and I believe he still has legal issues a head of him. Watson has much better raw talent but with all the distractions and sentences coming up I don't think this is an upgrade at all. If Baker isn't the answer just use a couple of those picks to find another answer and save the cap space to fix the rest. If Watson saga continues to be a major headache such a guaranteed contract will bury the franchise for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, sith13 said: Watson has much better raw talent but with all the distractions and sentences coming up I don't think this is an upgrade at all. If Baker isn't the answer just use a couple of those picks to find another answer and save the cap space to fix the rest. If Watson saga continues to be a major headache such a guaranteed contract will bury the franchise for good. I was just reading an article that says Baker was ready to sit out and if so I guess they thought they'd ( browns) just cut their loses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I was just reading an article that says Baker was ready to sit out and if so I guess they thought they'd ( browns) just cut their loses That's something I'm curious about, players must play out their rookie contract but does that include the 5th year option or is it treated like a tag? Didn't hear about the Baker sitting out. That's definitely something to prompt some reaction from any GM but with the bunch of picks they had there would be some wiser ways to replace him. Regardless I expected a trade in place for Baker before finalizing the Watson deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The spending frenzy will swing the other way when all these AFC teams end up in cap hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 How do you trade so much draft capital and guarantee that much money and there's still a possibility he could be suspended by the league. Read an article that says the Browns will pay him even if he's suspended...insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Thegoatee said: The spending frenzy will swing the other way when all these AFC teams end up in cap hell. I don't know if this will be the case, to be honest. The cap went up 25 mill this year. The new TV deal was a big reason for this. I honestly think that teams are already being told or anticipate that we could see 18-25 million cap increases every year for the next 3-5 years, and are spending their money accordingly. Just 3 seasons ago, the Top 10 QB contracts averaged 30.6 million a year. This season the top 10 averages 39.1. If you look at the top 15 you see the average rise from 28.5 to 35.2. And that's just the QB spot. We are seeing the ceilings being raised considerably at pretty much every position. The price of football is going up and the cap is going to rise along with it. I don't anticipate these teams being nearly as cash strapped as people think they are. Remember just a couple years ago when Derek Carr got his deal how the Raiders were gonna be so cap screwed because of it? Well, that was never really the case, as they have continued to spend every off season and are managing the cap just fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, Biggjliv4 said: How do you trade so much draft capital and guarantee that much money and there's still a possibility he could be suspended by the league. Read an article that says the Browns will pay him even if he's suspended...insanity. The short answer... its the browns... azchief21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, sith13 said: Watson has much better raw talent but with all the distractions and sentences coming up I don't think this is an upgrade at all. If Baker isn't the answer just use a couple of those picks to find another answer and save the cap space to fix the rest. If Watson saga continues to be a major headache such a guaranteed contract will bury the franchise for good. Agree. The mental toll is going to be immense. Also everything that gets said and comes out in each of these 22 civil cases is going to brought up and his teammates are going to have to answer for it. It is going to be a circus for a long time. They are considerably better with Deshaun and pose another threat but it will be interesting to see how they handle everything and all the blow back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Mahomes Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetlord 10,209 Posted March 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 All these teams spending like crazy and only one can win. For every HB signing, there's a Clark type result. While the Chiefs are restricted in FA signings this year, I believe long term they are in good shape. While it will be hard to duplicate draft results like last year, even a slightly above average draft and a couple of FA signings to fill the gaps and I'd take their chances against the rest of the league over the next fie years. azchief21, qnet, artsy and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, jetlord said: All these teams spending like crazy and only one can win. For every HB signing, there's a Clark type result. While the Chiefs are restricted in FA signings this year, I believe long term they are in good shape. While it will be hard to duplicate draft results like last year, even a slightly above average draft and a couple of FA signings to fill the gaps and I'd take their chances against the rest of the league over the next fie years. This will be Veach's biggest offseason. We have most of the high priced guys in house. We have to fill long term holes in the draft and/or find hidden gems similar to Ward. Last year's draft was awesome but it was also positions that are typically easier to hit on. Finding CB, DE, and WR will be more difficult. Like you said, if he can be above avg we will be fine. Mahomes deal is going to be a steal when it is all said and done. I love their philosophy about not signing older guys to long term deals. artsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Lamardirts said: This will be Veach's biggest offseason. We have most of the high priced guys in house. We have to fill long term holes in the draft and/or find hidden gems similar to Ward. Last year's draft was awesome but it was also positions that are typically easier to hit on. Finding CB, DE, and WR will be more difficult. Like you said, if he can be above avg we will be fine. Mahomes deal is going to be a steal when it is all said and done. I love their philosophy about not signing older guys to long term deals. Would you be willing to trade up in the draft for a "REAL" DE/Pass rusher? Doing that would obviously cost us some draft capital, but damn it would be good to nab a young, cheap T.J Watt/Bosa/Kahil Mack to have around here for the next 5 to 8 yrs. wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Now is the time to be thoughtful with draft picks, and continuing to pull guys like Bolton, Humphrey etc out of the draft. We have enough stable pieces we don't need to make those big moves like trading picks for Clark as the Chiefs did, or the Raiders giving up picks for Adams. We're in a much better place in terms of long term stability than Denver and Vegas. We have an overall superior foundation to all of those teams, so let them spend, Chiefs need to be methodic. qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, artsy said: Would you be willing to trade up in the draft for a "REAL" DE/Pass rusher? Doing that would obviously cost us some draft capital, but damn it would be good to nab a young, cheap T.J Watt/Bosa/Kahil Mack to have around here for the next 5 to 8 yrs. wouldn't it? are there really any of those around that could drop to 25 or later? before that no thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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