KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33763102/patrick-mahomes-was-stunned-lose-tyreek-hill-knowing-potential-trade-kansas-city-chiefs-was-possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Probably figured it was all for leverage. At the end of the day the money wasn’t all that different. Drew just got Hill to get an extra year and a few million more. Good on him for earning it but let’s not pretend like the Chiefs wouldn’t over pay. If we gave them 30 and a fourth and paid him 4/22m. We netted a 2nd, 4th and 6 and got younger at wr. Yes less explosive but I could live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Hill left a team with a cannon armed QB for a modern day Alex Smith… I’d be shocked at that business decision too… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, Thegoatee said: Hill left a team with a cannon armed QB for a modern day Alex Smith… I’d be shocked at that business decision too… It's $25-30 million vs. $21 million. That's the business decision, not the strength of a QB's arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Deebo wants a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, azchief21 said: Deebo wants a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, SEMO said: You know Veach is looking seriously at this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, azchief21 said: You know Veach is looking seriously at this Deebo is going to want Tyreek/ Adam's type $$$ and just asking for does not mean he'll get his wish granted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 hours ago, azchief21 said: You know Veach is looking seriously at this Veach probably looks seriously at every player, but I doubt he would be serious about spending major draft capital and huge $$$. To much risk of being another Frank Clark type payoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 53 minutes ago, jetlord said: Veach probably looks seriously at every player, but I doubt he would be serious about spending major draft capital and huge $$$. To much risk of being another Frank Clark type payoff. God I hope you're right.😐 qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 5 hours ago, jetlord said: It's $25-30 million vs. $21 million. That's the business decision, not the strength of a QB's arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 5 hours ago, jetlord said: Veach probably looks seriously at every player, but I doubt he would be serious about spending major draft capital and huge $$$. To much risk of being another Frank Clark type payoff. Yep I want some defense. We're fine on offense. Burpo The Mad Clown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 10 hours ago, azchief21 said: Yep I want some defense. We're fine on offense. Patrick has the ability to make good WRs great. Patrick can't do anything when the other team is racking up 1st downs at will. Had we lost the coin flip vs Buff, this wouldn't even be a debate. DieHard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, mex said: Patrick has the ability to make good WRs great. Patrick can't do anything when the other team is racking up 1st downs at will. Had we lost the coin flip vs Buff, this wouldn't even be a debate. Buffalo had a terrific defense. Look where it got them. Not saying we don't need D, just saying keep your strengths strong while building the D. Right now our receiver corps is not where it needs to be. DieHard and Biggjliv4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, xen said: Buffalo had a terrific defense. Look where it got them. Not saying we don't need D, just saying keep your strengths strong while building the D. Right now our receiver corps is not where it needs to be. Meh... like I said... if we lose that coin toss... these draft threads are singing a different tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, mex said: Meh... like I said... if we lose that coin toss... these draft threads are singing a different tune. Meh people don't pay attention either. It's like the thought that there are a ton of receivers in this draft. Sure there are but if you drill down the quality will go fast and after that you're just betting on traits and hoping to get lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, xen said: Meh people don't pay attention either. It's like the thought that there are a ton of receivers in this draft. Sure there are but if you drill down the quality will go fast and after that you're just betting on traits and hoping to get lucky. Oh, I agree on the 'get lucky' part. Veach could go my route and draft a highly coveted edge guy... and we could end up with another Tyson Jackson. Same with a coveted WR. Might as well speculate on what kind of meat is in that chinese takeout the wife brought home last night. I'm still hoping Cornell Powell can make some noise this year. Really thought he was a great choice when we picked him up last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, mex said: Oh, I agree on the 'get lucky' part. Veach could go my route and draft a highly coveted edge guy... and we could end up with another Tyson Jackson. Same with a coveted WR. Might as well speculate on what kind of meat is in that chinese takeout the wife brought home last night. I'm still hoping Cornell Powell can make some noise this year. Really thought he was a great choice when we picked him up last year. that was a coffee on the keyboard line right there mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, xen said: Meh people don't pay attention either. It's like the thought that there are a ton of receivers in this draft. Sure there are but if you drill down the quality will go fast and after that you're just betting on traits and hoping to get lucky. If the Chiefs are convinced that Williams will put up Jerry Rice type numbers, then they should sacrifice a shot at an early round EDGE or CB to get him. But if he's out of reach, then I see the drop off in D talent as being steeper than the drop off in WR players. So move up for Williams and settle for a second round EDGE or DB vs. taking Mafe and Booth/Hill/Cine/ Elam/Pitre and getting a second round WR. Throw in the uncertainty of how any draftee will pan out, and I'd say shoot more bullets at the defense. Will the new WR increase the scoring more, or will the new defense prevent more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysChiefs 82 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 If the Chiefs had Deebo, JuJu, Scantling, Kelce, and Mahomes all on the field at one time, our opponents would probably just walk off the field after we scored our first 100 points or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, AlwaysChiefs said: If the Chiefs had Deebo, JuJu, Scantling, Kelce, and Mahomes all on the field at one time, our opponents would probably just walk off the field after we scored our first 100 points or so. And if they had an '85 Bears defense, they'd walk off the field after the Chiefs scored one TD. 🙂 oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysChiefs 82 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Yeah, but they need one player for my scenario. How many players do they need to have that Bears defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I am warming up to a trade up for WR because our strength is QB and offensive HC. Plus keeping Pat stocked with tools and happy is important. Pass rush is too need IMO, but not sure the 10-15 range gets a top pass rusher. But I don’t see a trade for WR just to pay FA dollars making a ton of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, DieHard said: . Pass rush is too need IMO, but not sure the 10-15 range gets a top pass rusher. But I don’t see a trade for WR just to pay FA dollars making a ton of sense. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 If we package draft picks to move up and get a WR then Mahomes is overrated. Brady made Welker and Edelman multi-millionaires and Pro-Bowlers while winning Super Bowls. Mahomes should be able to do it w/ JuJu, Hardman and one of the best TEs in history. EDGE and CB @ 29 and 30. mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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