Lamardirts 2,114 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Thinks DE will fall and has is taking Watson. King usually has a bead on the Chiefs. Love the idea that DEs are falling but hate Watson in the first. Would love to trade up for Johnson and even more so for Kayvon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 DEs falling is great. We can double up on them with the pick in the first and another in 2nd. DT, S, CB or even RT with the other 2nd round pick then. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 QB's are rising as well......Its going to be a fun day 1.... w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post arrowhead 1,070 Posted April 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2022 Nobody knows anything. 3 days left and every GM or Head Coach is putting out so much smoke you'd think Cheech and Chong were in the house. King, Brooks, Jeremiah are guessing just like us. Gonna be an interesting draft for sure. qnet, West, Troyofoc and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Shit if Jermaine Johnson falls that far we best go get him. That's just dumb. I'm fine with Watson in the first if all those receivers are off the board. Athletic profiles like that don't grow on trees and you can teach the stuff he lacks. You can't say that about the other receivers left. Troyofoc and ATLchief 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I've read more than once that this draft will be one of the most unpredictable ever. That doesn't stop people from trying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 11 hours ago, dhitter said: I've read more than once that this draft will be one of the most unpredictable ever. That doesn't stop people from trying though. I call that the "Skip Bayless effect". Throw 100 pieces of trash out there in the world, and then when one hits, be proclaimed the master insider... arrowhead, ATLchief and West 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 WRs in 1st is quite the number. In such a scenario I hope Burks lasts till us instead of Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, sith13 said: 7 WRs in 1st is quite the number. In such a scenario I hope Burks lasts till us instead of Watson. Yeah i don't know about Burks in this offense. Really low floor player imo. I'd take Watson over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 6 hours ago, xen said: Yeah i don't know about Burks in this offense. Really low floor player imo. I'd take Watson over him. Burks, along with Kelce would eat up the short field. Plus Burks runs through and over people. I doubt HB would want to tackle him. But if you want an "X" or go to deep threat, Burks isn't it. Might be a good weapon, but he won't fill in for Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, jetlord said: Burks, along with Kelce would eat up the short field. Plus Burks runs through and over people. I doubt HB would want to tackle him. But if you want an "X" or go to deep threat, Burks isn't it. Might be a good weapon, but he won't fill in for Hill. Maybe. I think he'd be great in that Shanahan offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 14 hours ago, xen said: Yeah i don't know about Burks in this offense. Really low floor player imo. I'd take Watson over him. I think he would be a great possession receiver in the middle to compliment Kelce and move to the outside occasionally with that great speed. We have enough speed on the outside with the current trio of receivers IMO. I don't think Burks would be a replacement for Hill though, that would be a whole other profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 1:47 PM, arrowhead said: Nobody knows anything. 3 days left and every GM or Head Coach is putting out so much smoke you'd think Cheech and Chong were in the house. King, Brooks, Jeremiah are guessing just like us. Gonna be an interesting draft for sure. Even funnier than the pre-draft recommendations are the post-draft grades for each team. I love saving those to look at a couple of years later...while enclosed in a car with Cheech and Chong. arrowhead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 7 hours ago, sith13 said: I think he would be a great possession receiver in the middle to compliment Kelce and move to the outside occasionally with that great speed. We have enough speed on the outside with the current trio of receivers IMO. I don't think Burks would be a replacement for Hill though, that would be a whole other profile. 4.55 is great speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowhead 1,070 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said: Even funnier than the pre-draft recommendations are the post-draft grades for each team. I love saving those to look at a couple of years later...while enclosed in a car with Cheech and Chong. "Experts" know as much going in as they do going out. Fmbl2187 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 hours ago, xen said: 4.55 is great speed? It's a matter of size and speed combo. Can't cover him with pure speedsters and can't really expect him to go below 4.40 with that build. Still has really quick feet and definitely plays faster than his 40 time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, sith13 said: It's a matter of size and speed combo. Can't cover him with pure speedsters and can't really expect him to go below 4.40 with that build. Still has really quick feet and definitely plays faster than his 40 time. I dunno. When I watched him actually run routes (rare, they did a lot of short stuff with him in the games I saw) even slower corners and safeties stayed right in his hip pocket. He was pretty good with 50/50 balls though. I guess I worry how his skillset will translate. Would probably feel comfortable in the 2nd with him I suppose. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, xen said: I dunno. When I watched him actually run routes (rare, they did a lot of short stuff with him in the games I saw) even slower corners and safeties stayed right in his hip pocket. He was pretty good with 50/50 balls though. I guess I worry how his skillset will translate. Would probably feel comfortable in the 2nd with him I suppose. Honestly I only expected Wilson, Williams, and London to go in 1st and the rest all feel like 2nd day guys. However the "experts" seem to think these are all day 1 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I'm certain that Veach will pull the trigger on a trade up if someone high on his chart at a position of need is falling within his grasp. Biggest needs are edge, corner, and WR. I think that it mostly would be edge and corner. Of those two, I would guess corner, since there are so few top tier corners in any draft. If Daxton Hill is within reach, he would likely be worth a trade up. With Herbert, Wilson, and Carr in the division, it has to be someone who defends the pass that he would move up for. AlwaysChiefs and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 6 hours ago, xen said: 4.55 is great speed? Was thinking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 Contracts push all decent wrs up the bird but imo that would be a mistake. Use this inefficiency to grab some talent that falls. College will pump out more and more wrs that can play early as the game evolves. Reaching or overpaying only hamstring you later unless you hit on less talent later in the draft which is harder to do. Troyofoc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 hours ago, sith13 said: Honestly I only expected Wilson, Williams, and London to go in 1st and the rest all feel like 2nd day guys. However the "experts" seem to think these are all day 1 guys. Disagree. Olave I rate higher than Wilson. Pickens I have as 1st round, just based on talent, without a doubt. Without the injuries i think he's a top 15 guy. I have Tolbert and Metchie as 1-2 round guys, both those guys should be getting way more love than they are by the draft community. Christian Watson I have as a 1-2 as well, but that's purely a projection based on his athletic profile. I might have Skyy Moore as a 1-2 but only got to see 1 game. Looked really great to me. Here's how I currently have them ranked, at least for how I think they fit with us. 1a Williams 1b London 2 Olave 3a Pickens 3b Wilson 4 Metchie 5 Tolbert 6a Watson 6b Skyy Moore 7 Calvin Austin 8a Burks 8b Alec Pierce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said: I'm certain that Veach will pull the trigger on a trade up if someone high on his chart at a position of need is falling within his grasp. Biggest needs are edge, corner, and WR. I think that it mostly would be edge and corner. Of those two, I would guess corner, since there are so few top tier corners in any draft. If Daxton Hill is within reach, he would likely be worth a trade up. With Herbert, Wilson, and Carr in the division, it has to be someone who defends the pass that he would move up for. I agree. Good points. I think EDGE is the greater need. I noted poor pass rush prior to the AFC Championship game. Several here stated it would not be a problem. After all Cinn gave up 9 sacks the game prior. Well it was a problem and is worse now. Guys cant cover forever. The AFC West is full of great pass rushers of which KC has only Jones. Clark was a cheap keep based on they would have ate most of that salary anyway. I think that was a smart keep. He would likely have gotten very little money on the free agent market because he is average at best. I hope Veach moves up if a top edge guy is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said: I'm certain that Veach will pull the trigger on a trade up if someone high on his chart at a position of need is falling within his grasp. Biggest needs are edge, corner, and WR. I think that it mostly would be edge and corner. Of those two, I would guess corner, since there are so few top tier corners in any draft. If Daxton Hill is within reach, he would likely be worth a trade up. With Herbert, Wilson, and Carr in the division, it has to be someone who defends the pass that he would move up for. I keep seeing Chiefs fans say edge and corner are bigger needs than receiver. Honestly I think that's very short sighted considering we have 1 receiver under contract next year. People seem to think Pat is magic and can make do with shrubbery at the receiver position. Oh and by the way, and this is not aimed at you in any way, but I'ma bitch slap the next motherfucker that says "yeah but Tom Brady blah blah blah..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, xen said: I keep seeing Chiefs fans say edge and corner are bigger needs than receiver. Honestly I think that's very short sighted considering we have 1 receiver under contract next year. People seem to think Pat is magic and can make do with shrubbery at the receiver position. Oh and by the way, and this is not aimed at you in any way, but I'ma bitch slap the next motherfucker that says "yeah but Tom Brady blah blah blah..." how you gonna get thru a computer screen??? You the lawnmower man or sumthing HAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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