dhitter 1,424 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Anyone besides me blown away at just how bad our backups looked on Saturday? And to add to the mess....I'm not convinced the starting tackles looked THAT good. Patrick was Patrick on the opening drive. Guys were getting in on him. He just got the ball out fast. With all the emphasis on building the trenches....I guess I expect more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I think we'll see a major upgrade at both tackle positions but the state of the backups is definitely worrisome. Last year was an exception to an otherwise terrible luck at OL health over the last decade or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 It's early. I agree with the observations, but wouldn't read too much into it at this point. I don't see a swing tackle yet that I am comfortable with. Thought Christian was that guy, but Niang is also a candidate when he returns. Kinnard has a ways to go. oldtimer, dhitter and West 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Kinnard is a disappointment so far. (Gee, a wasted sixth out of ten picks?) Allegretti is a viable sub and when Niang get back, he can play. The best hope is that some of the others such as Christian will play better as part of the starting line than as part of a conglomeration of third stringers without cohesion or practicing together as a unit. Didn't notice Reiter, but if he's limited to OC, he's not needed. Maybe Prince will develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Agree Kinnard was man handled a couple of times was expecting him to be beat by speed not the bull rush so easily. And that was bye 2nd-4th stringers on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 hours ago, jetlord said: Kinnard is a disappointment so far. (Gee, a wasted sixth out of ten picks?) Allegretti is a viable sub and when Niang get back, he can play. The best hope is that some of the others such as Christian will play better as part of the starting line than as part of a conglomeration of third stringers without cohesion or practicing together as a unit. Didn't notice Reiter, but if he's limited to OC, he's not needed. Maybe Prince will develop. Its really early. Lots of time for all to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 hours ago, jetlord said: Kinnard is a disappointment so far. (Gee, a wasted sixth out of ten picks?) Allegretti is a viable sub and when Niang get back, he can play. The best hope is that some of the others such as Christian will play better as part of the starting line than as part of a conglomeration of third stringers without cohesion or practicing together as a unit. Didn't notice Reiter, but if he's limited to OC, he's not needed. Maybe Prince will develop. Veach needs to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Veach needs to be fired. Yep. He always ignores the CB position in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 wow, one preseason game, and we are already becoming chicken littles? I'd say our starters are set, and the backups, well, the young guys will hopefully be backups most of the season and will learn. Thats the best you can hope for "backups"! AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Kinnard will be fine. Might need a year to develop. But he will be a starter. Niang is a solid swing tackle. I don’t think you can trust his health to be a starter. I’d like to see Prince Tego-Wanogo moved to guard. And be groomed to replace Thuney in a couple years. That is when we can’t afford a $16 million guard. Or we go with Humphrey and smith as the guys to pay. Wylie will be the starting RG this year but will move back to swing back up next year. And he is valuable as this. I’d like to see Allegretti and vitally Gurman kept as interior depth. As both are being trained as Guard/ Center combo players. Reiter needs to be cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 57 minutes ago, Spfdchiefsfan said: wow, one preseason game, and we are already becoming chicken littles? I'd say our starters are set, and the backups, well, the young guys will hopefully be backups most of the season and will learn. Thats the best you can hope for "backups"! Well ...to be fair the chicken little reference is puzzling. Pointing out that the backups looked bad and it was disappointing? Yeah that was an overreaction. I withdraw the statement your honor. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, dhitter said: Well ...to be fair the chicken little reference is puzzling. Pointing out that the backups looked bad and it was disappointing? Yeah that was an overreaction. I withdraw the statement your honor. You are charged with contempt and may the FBI raid your home! dhitter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Palangi said: Kinnard will be fine. Might need a year to develop. But he will be a starter. Niang is a solid swing tackle. I don’t think you can trust his health to be a starter. I’d like to see Prince Tego-Wanogo moved to guard. And be groomed to replace Thuney in a couple years. That is when we can’t afford a $16 million guard. Or we go with Humphrey and smith as the guys to pay. Wylie will be the starting RG this year but will move back to swing back up next year. And he is valuable as this. I’d like to see Allegretti and vitally Gurman kept as interior depth. As both are being trained as Guard/ Center combo players. Reiter needs to be cut Reiter is likely a great camp body as he already knows the system and can help with youngsters around him but I agree he should leave in favor of Allegretti who can play both OG and OC. I believe Thuney will see the end of his contract. The way the OL contracts are inflating will make him look rather cheap and we won't have to pay guys like Creed or Smith real money until he leaves. Obviously if we find a gem at OG that would be another story but I doubt they will downgrade at LG to save some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 5 hours ago, sith13 said: Reiter is likely a great camp body as he already knows the system and can help with youngsters around him but I agree he should leave in favor of Allegretti who can play both OG and OC. I believe Thuney will see the end of his contract. The way the OL contracts are inflating will make him look rather cheap and we won't have to pay guys like Creed or Smith real money until he leaves. Obviously if we find a gem at OG that would be another story but I doubt they will downgrade at LG to save some money. Don't be surprised if Kinnard ends up at OG down the road. Until he learns some footwork and not to stand up straight, he wont be playing OT. Hope he's a good learner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 hours ago, jetlord said: Don't be surprised if Kinnard ends up at OG down the road. Until he learns some footwork and not to stand up straight, he wont be playing OT. Hope he's a good learner. Not sure where he fits. OT was the logical choice based on his college career but even the scouts considered him for OG at the NFL level. As long as he's a viable option somewhere on the line I'll be very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomahawkChop 255 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 16 hours ago, Palangi said: Kinnard will be fine. Might need a year to develop. But he will be a starter. Niang is a solid swing tackle. I don’t think you can trust his health to be a starter. I’d like to see Prince Tego-Wanogo moved to guard. And be groomed to replace Thuney in a couple years. That is when we can’t afford a $16 million guard. Or we go with Humphrey and smith as the guys to pay. Wylie will be the starting RG this year but will move back to swing back up next year. And he is valuable as this. I’d like to see Allegretti and vitally Gurman kept as interior depth. As both are being trained as Guard/ Center combo players. Reiter needs to be cut Why would Wylie be starting ahead of Trey Smith? Is Smith injured? Did I miss something? Maybe you meant RT? I don't like any starting line that includes Wylie, but that may end up being the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 49 minutes ago, TomahawkChop said: Why would Wylie be starting ahead of Trey Smith? Is Smith injured? Did I miss something? Maybe you meant RT? I don't like any starting line that includes Wylie, but that may end up being the case. Standing by for Veach nabbing a back up RT after the cuts. Niang played okay and was gaining experience when he got shoved into emergency duty at LT and got hurt. Any thoughts on when he might be back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, TomahawkChop said: Why would Wylie be starting ahead of Trey Smith? Is Smith injured? Did I miss something? Maybe you meant RT? I don't like any starting line that includes Wylie, but that may end up being the case. I meant RT. My bad SEMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomahawkChop 255 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, jetlord said: Standing by for Veach nabbing a back up RT after the cuts. Niang played okay and was gaining experience when he got shoved into emergency duty at LT and got hurt. Any thoughts on when he might be back? I haven't heard/read anything about when Niang would be back in action, but he's been - it seems to me - a bit brittle thus far. He was showing promise last season, so maybe he can get healthy and pick up where he left off. I'd MUCH rather see Niang than Wylie at RT. Can the tackle they picked up from Washington play RT? He's a solid starter, I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 13 hours ago, TomahawkChop said: Why would Wylie be starting ahead of Trey Smith? Is Smith injured? Did I miss something? Maybe you meant RT? I don't like any starting line that includes Wylie, but that may end up being the case. I think the bold part is the real question. He held up decent enough coming in as a backup but I wouldn't consider him a reliable starter after failing us so many times in different positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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