xen 1,010,219 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, jetlord said: Technically true, but they'll have to pay him after two more years. No way do they let Herbert become a FA. No but that 5th year option will be part of the new deal based on what other QBs have done recently, including Pat and Josh. Even the 5th year is still a bargain compared to current QB prices. jetlord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Yeah but mahomes took a deal that worked great for the team. His deal now will be far less by the time Herbert comes up for contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, AFCWEST said: This is what was said about KC. Wait till they have to pay PM. Well that has not happened. Good teams find a way to thrive. Veach has been a difference maker. There are other good front offices too. We shall see who rises to the top and who falls. Drafts will be more the key than QB salaries. The Tyreek Hill trade was actually totally necessary. Five picks by Veach. Knowing Veach, at least 3 of them will end up starters before their first contract is up. The cap space alone will let us re-sign some key players to a new contract. It's what good teams do. That and structuring contracts so that they can be re-structured when necessary. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Yeah but mahomes took a deal that worked great for the team. His deal now will be far less by the time Herbert comes up for contract. Even so its still a lot of money. My point is the Herbert situation is not clear. There is no short window and then all the teams with top QBs will suffer. Now the Charger brass may screw it up but its not certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 23 hours ago, AFCWEST said: Even so its still a lot of money. My point is the Herbert situation is not clear. There is no short window and then all the teams with top QBs will suffer. Now the Charger brass may screw it up but its not certain. The Chargers brass is pretty good. It's the players and coaches that screw it up qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 23 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said: The Tyreek Hill trade was actually totally necessary. Five picks by Veach. Knowing Veach, at least 3 of them will end up starters before their first contract is up. The cap space alone will let us re-sign some key players to a new contract. It's what good teams do. That and structuring contracts so that they can be re-structured when necessary. 3 of them are already starters. Karlaftis, McDuffie (or Watson in the last game if you prefer) and Chenal has been the starting Sam. oldtimer, Calichief and qnet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, xen said: 3 of them are already starters. Karlaftis, McDuffie (or Watson in the last game if you prefer) and Chenal has been the starting Sam. Pacheco, Cook, and Moore are also playing roles as well. Pretty good haul for one draft. Thank you, Tyreek Fmbl2187, qnet and oldtimer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 47 minutes ago, jetlord said: Pacheco, Cook, and Moore are also playing roles as well. Pretty good haul for one draft. Thank you, Tyreek What ones were the picks for tyreek again? McDuffie or Chenal? And I take it the 3 above? At work or I could look it up if I had time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, kkuenn said: What ones were the picks for tyreek again? McDuffie or Chenal? And I take it the 3 above? At work or I could look it up if I had time. Technically it was McDuffie, Kinnard and Skyy Moore this year. We traded the 4th from the reek haul to move up for McDuffie. Then traded down in the 2nd to pick up a 5th, then took Skyy. Then traded up in the 5th using the NE 5th from the Skyy trade plus a 7th to take Kinnard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Chenal was the comp pick iirc. The other 3rd went in the McDuffie trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, xen said: Technically it was McDuffie, Kinnard and Skyy Moore this year. We traded the 4th from the reek haul to move up for McDuffie. Then traded down in the 2nd to pick up a 5th, then took Skyy. Then traded up in the 5th using the NE 5th from the Skyy trade plus a 7th to take Kinnard. Nice Still 2 picks to go plus saved 30 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 10 hours ago, xen said: 3 of them are already starters. Karlaftis, McDuffie (or Watson in the last game if you prefer) and Chenal has been the starting Sam. You're right. Not all of the choices were this year, though. We get two picks next season. We might trade those choices to move up for somebody. Chenal may have started a game, but I don't think we can call him THE starter yet. Anyway, it was a great haul, and much of the value will be in the way we will be able to afford to KEEP some key guys because of the money saved. Guys like Jones and Brown that otherwise may have been lost. It sets us up for great success and depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said: You're right. Not all of the choices were this year, though. We get two picks next season. We might trade those choices to move up for somebody. Chenal may have started a game, but I don't think we can call him THE starter yet. Anyway, it was a great haul, and much of the value will be in the way we will be able to afford to KEEP some key guys because of the money saved. Guys like Jones and Brown that otherwise may have been lost. It sets up up for great success and depth. Chenal started when we played base in both games. He got about half the Sam snaps in game 1 and nearly 90% of the Sam snaps in game 2. KC mostly played nickel both games. Base 43 was mostly played on obvious run downs. If the question is, is the Sam a starting position when we play that much nickel, that's a legitimate question. If the question is who's the starting Sam, it's Chenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said: You're right. Not all of the choices were this year, though. We get two picks next season. We might trade those choices to move up for somebody. Chenal may have started a game, but I don't think we can call him THE starter yet. Anyway, it was a great haul, and much of the value will be in the way we will be able to afford to KEEP some key guys because of the money saved. Guys like Jones and Brown that otherwise may have been lost. It sets up up for great success and depth. I have my own definition of what is a "starter". Two RBs, Two TEs, Four WR, Three LB, Four DE, Three DT, Three CB, and Three S. Now obviously, most of the above have only one true starter, but the others play a lot of snaps and are essential to team success. So if a draft pick is the #2 TE or #4 WR, it's still not a wasted pick. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 3 hours ago, jetlord said: I have my own definition of what is a "starter". Two RBs, Two TEs, Four WR, Three LB, Four DE, Three DT, Three CB, and Three S. Now obviously, most of the above have only one true starter, but the others play a lot of snaps and are essential to team success. So if a draft pick is the #2 TE or #4 WR, it's still not a wasted pick. JMHO "I've never had a humble opinion in my life. If you're going to have an opinion, why be humble about it"? - Joan Baez xen and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 4 hours ago, xen said: Chenal started when we played base in both games. He got about half the Sam snaps in game 1 and nearly 90% of the Sam snaps in game 2. KC mostly played nickel both games. Base 43 was mostly played on obvious run downs. If the question is, is the Sam a starting position when we play that much nickel, that's a legitimate question. If the question is who's the starting Sam, it's Chenal. I suppose that's right. I'll make a note of that. ✍️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 nickle is our base defense.. there is no sam in nickle. in 43 chenal is the starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 4 hours ago, robgar said: nickle is our base defense.. there is no sam in nickle. in 43 chenal is the starter Maybe we'll see more of Chenal when the Chiefs play Indy. Stopping Taylor is a primary issue and the Colts' offense has been feeble so far. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 crap.. gays suspended for 4 games.. who takes his place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 13 hours ago, robgar said: crap.. gays suspended for 4 games.. who takes his place? https://www.thechiefscoalition.com/topic/15504-gay-suspended-4-games/ Being talked about on the copied link, just fyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Gay's suspension really worries me. Came out of the blue. Too much for damaging a vacuum cleaner. Maybe it was a top-end Roomba. That would be a different matter. Seriously, we'd better have someone ready for the long term. Gay has a few mental issues, and something like this can happen at any time. Can't afford too much drop off in speed in the linebacker unit. Leaving us vulnerable on the edge kind of messes up the whole Spagnuolo plan for the secondary. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 On 9/19/2022 at 3:24 PM, jetlord said: Maybe we'll see more of Chenal when the Chiefs play Indy. Stopping Taylor is a primary issue and the Colts' offense has been feeble so far. I'm more worried about the three games after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Cant find a 14-3.. several 13-4's.. and one 15 -2.. but not 14-3 and a whole lotta nonbelievers, but then thats pretty much what happens here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 hours ago, robgar said: Cant find a 14-3.. several 13-4's.. and one 15 -2.. but not 14-3 and a whole lotta nonbelievers, but then thats pretty much what happens here. Uh, not that this guy needs any help being even MORE of an insufferable prick... but reese nailed it. I mean... like NAILED it. Probably the most accurate prediction in the history of the CC. Especially the vagina part. Only reason I'm posting it, is so the SOB doesn't get the pleasure of doing it himself. Joe_Chief, oldtimer and xen 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 @reesebobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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