DieHard 2,061 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Ranking Mahomes week 1 performance as the #8 performance by a QB really helps that fire he has in his belly. I usually get frustrated by the complete lunacy of what PFF puts out, but this time it is helpful. Yes, Pat was the only QB to toss 5 TDs. Yes, he was only one of two QBs to have zero INTs. Yes, he had by far the highest passer rating in the league. BUT, you have to apply the "advanced metrics" to truly understand how is is #8. We seriously can't legitimately quote PFF ranking when talking about player with a straight face, can we? BTW, Allen was ranked #1. 7 spots ahead of Mahomes. He had 2 less TDs, two more INTs and didn't even crack 300 yards. Lunacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, DieHard said: Ranking Mahomes week 1 performance as the #8 performance by a QB really helps that fire he has in his belly. I usually get frustrated by the complete lunacy of what PFF puts out, but this time it is helpful. Yes, Pat was the only QB to toss 5 TDs. Yes, he was only one of two QBs to have zero INTs. Yes, he had by far the highest passer rating in the league. BUT, you have to apply the "advanced metrics" to truly understand how is is #8. We seriously can't legitimately quote PFF ranking when talking about player with a straight face, can we? BTW, Allen was ranked #1. 7 spots ahead of Mahomes. He had 2 less TDs, two more INTs and didn't even crack 300 yards. Lunacy. PFF isn't advanced metrics it's grading based off film study. And obviously extremely flawed grading at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 SEMO, KCTech and mex 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, xen said: Wat…. Andy had the team well oiled and didn’t take a nap in the 2nd half and we scored the most points? Or are they saying Andy was so bad we should have hung 100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 45 minutes ago, Thegoatee said: Wat…. Andy had the team well oiled and didn’t take a nap in the 2nd half and we scored the most points? Or are they saying Andy was so bad we should have hung 100? It was another joke about pff ranking Mahomes 8th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur75 415 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Might get some hate mail for this, but I think Allen and Mahomes is about the same person almost. I wouldn't be mad to have either one of them as my QB. Now if I was starting a team and I got one to pick one player to build team around I give the slight edge to Mahomes but wouldn't be upset if I had to pick Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, arthur75 said: Might get some hate mail for this, but I think Allen and Mahomes is about the same person almost. I wouldn't be mad to have either one of them as my QB. Now if I was starting a team and I got one to pick one player to build team around I give the slight edge to Mahomes but wouldn't be upset if I had to pick Allen. Allen’s success, to this point, is very heavily dependent on his ability to run. Allen probably has greater injury risk. I’d take smart scrambler vs. designed running QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Thegoatee said: Allen’s success, to this point, is very heavily dependent on his ability to run. Allen probably has greater injury risk. I’d take smart scrambler vs. designed running QB. Good point. In a different system he may not need to run as much. I think both are on par with each other and in systems that work best for each. If they switched teams it would be interesting to see what the results would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, xen said: Yep. Lots and lots of film study by these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 I didn't realize Cris Collinsworth was majority owner of PFF. It all makes sense now. Cris Collinsworth, former star Bengals receiver, current analyst on NBC's “Sunday Night Football” and Fort Thomas resident who owns the largest stake in PFF, spoke glowingly of Hornsby and his ability to launch PFF. Collinsworth bought a majority stake in PFF in 2014. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, DieHard said: I didn't realize Cris Collinsworth was majority owner of PFF. It all makes sense now. Cris Collinsworth, former star Bengals receiver, current analyst on NBC's “Sunday Night Football” and Fort Thomas resident who owns the largest stake in PFF, spoke glowingly of Hornsby and his ability to launch PFF. Collinsworth bought a majority stake in PFF in 2014. Here’s a guy who creates ranking narrative! DieHard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 As long as PM15 continues to ball out like he did on Sunday....PFF can rank him dead last for all I care. Results in games.....that's what matters. Not some arbitrary list. qnet and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I wish I could find the tweet, but there was a comparison where Herbert and Mahomes both threw nearly identically placed balls into triple coverage for a completion. Herbert was given an “elite” throw by pff while Mahomes was given “potential turnover risk” for his…. As the popular saying goes on this board…. Lunacy… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Musta been 7 really good QBs in the NFC this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 12 hours ago, WichitaZRide said: I wish I could find the tweet, but there was a comparison where Herbert and Mahomes both threw nearly identically placed balls into triple coverage for a completion. Herbert was given an “elite” throw by pff while Mahomes was given “potential turnover risk” for his…. As the popular saying goes on this board…. Lunacy… The NFL still needs to grow the LA market. No better way than to hype the Chargers and will them to the Super Bowl to make LA the champions city. Rams legitimized it last year, Chargers this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 51 minutes ago, xen said: Musta been 7 really good QBs in the NFC this week 8. They put Geno ahead of Mahomes also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 How does the 9th best QB get OPOW? Smdh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 PFF really started going downhill about 3 years ago, its near worthless, unfortunately there are no competitors at the moment to use as references Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 8:24 PM, Thegoatee said: Allen’s success, to this point, is very heavily dependent on his ability to run. Allen probably has greater injury risk. I’d take smart scrambler vs. designed running QB. I think the usage is very critical at this point. Mahomes is a decent runner but he has been holding back likely due to team commands. Allen on the other hand needs to win now and big for whatever reason. I'm not sure if Buffalo is realizing the risk but they need to be a bit more careful with Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Longer version mex and oldtimer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 2 hours ago, xen said: Longer version That interview says a lot, and confirms what I always thought. The Chiefs have the best QB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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