AFCWEST 1,238 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I know this group is young. I think they are getting better despite the stats and some big plays. Teams know they need to put up points so they are going for it. Fenton has been a reliable guy in the past. Putting him on a guy like Adams is asking a lot of any corner. Not sure there was another answer and it seems like some adjustments were made in the second half. I like Fenton as a #2 guy or rotational piece. How is Reid doing? I dont hear much about him. Is this group better than last years? Is the lack of a pass rush the bigger issue? Fmbl2187 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: I know this group is young. I think they are getting better despite the stats and some big plays. Teams know they need to put up points so they are going for it. Fenton has been a reliable guy in the past. Putting him on a guy like Adams is asking a lot of any corner. Not sure there was another answer and it seems like some adjustments were made in the second half. I like Fenton as a #2 guy or rotational piece. How is Reid doing? I dont hear much about him. I like this group. Teams are going after them. Evans last week and Adam’s this week. We play press man and so we will win some and lose some. It’s the pass rush that we need to find a way to get better so these deep shots on our corners are less of a issue. Plus mcduffie should be back soon. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, Holmes4six! said: I like this group. Teams are going after them. Evans last week and Adam’s this week. We play press man and so we will win some and lose some. It’s the pass rush that we need to find a way to get better so these deep shots on our corners are less of a issue. Plus mcduffie should be back soon. Hope MickeyD is ready to roll this week. Next 2 games are tough. SF has a crazy good pass rush & overall D. We need some turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Sorry....its Spaggs and scheme.... any idiot that's watched football would know that his plan for Adams last night was absolute trash. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Sneed, McDuffie, Watson, and Williams are the future. Fenton is a slightly above avg guy who got put in the spin cycle so many times by Adams last night. While Watson and Fenton both got flagged for PI, Watson just needs to turn his head and that is perfect coverage. Even the ball Cook got burned on he recovered and was right there. We all knew there were going to be plays like this but outside of Fenton our young guys were fighting and in good positions a lot of the time. That is promising. oldtimer, qnet and AFCWEST 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On that note, tired of the DPI calls when the WR is blanketed and the QB can't reach the WR and he stops turns back into the DB to make a catch and the DB takes the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Fenton is regressing fast. Iluvhouse24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, WichitaZRide said: Sorry....its Spaggs and scheme.... any idiot that's watched football would know that his plan for Adams last night was absolute trash. So Spaggs is an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, azchief21 said: On that note, tired of the DPI calls when the WR is blanketed and the QB can't reach the WR and he stops turns back into the DB to make a catch and the DB takes the call. Our receivers need to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 Anyone have a take on Reid so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, azchief21 said: Fenton is regressing fast. I think he is getting the #1 receiver most often. Ward, now awesome in SF, was the #1 cover guy last year. Fenton should be #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Before the draft, I posted that Fenton should be replaced or at least not counted on to be a starting CB. Took a lot of flack for that. Fenton is a hard hitter that just doesn't have the skills or speed to cover top receivers. His best play was his first year when he was used more as a safety. IMHO, he's not even average as a cover corner. Not slamming the guy, he plays hard. But he doesn't have the tools to win against the best. Watson was schooled by Adams on the big play. He didn't turn his head on the underthrown pass and Adams actually pulled him into himself. Common technique and it works with inexperienced CB and passes thrown short. Watson can learn. Fenton probably can't. Ryan Tracy has suggested that Fenton be used as a strong safety when McDuffie comes back. Makes sense to me. qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, azchief21 said: Fenton is regressing fast. I don't think so. He is not yet back up to speed, was playing against much bigger and quicker receivers, was on an island with them, and he is merely a little above average. In a complete secondary, he is a good piece as a depth slot corner. This group has great potential but won't really show what it can do until 2023. I am getting more impressed with Watson every game I see him. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: Anyone have a take on Reid so far? Apparently, he is a fine mentor and coordinator out there. He makes no mistakes, so we don't hear about him much. We really didn't hear much about Mathieu, either. He was playing the same role. Covering teammates asses and mentoring them. Good if someone slips past the linebackers on runs. That's what it seems like to me. Obviously, he is no threat to blitz. Value is much higher to the team than his visibility. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 This group is way better than last year, hopefully McDuffy returns and can be successful on the Davante Adams's of the world, leaving Fenton as a rotational guy. Sneed is god tier, and Reid is an upgrade from Matheiu. Thornhill is slightly under performing my expectations, but he hasn't been bad either, just below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Justin Reid, ladies and gentlemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Fyi Jacobs is 220 lbs and has a full head of steam. Reid runs about 205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Reid is a big upgrade over the Honey Dodger Lamardirts and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, AFCWEST said: So Spaggs is an idiot? Is leaving rookie CBs working one on one with davante Adams a smart move? Is putting davante Adams up against a regressing Fenton one on one a smart move? Is getting torched the first half and not making and adjustments to the secondary a smart move? spaggs doesn’t have it…. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 If any of them could learn to use their arms to tackle instead of just their shoulders, they might be better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 5 hours ago, AFCWEST said: I know this group is young. I think they are getting better despite the stats and some big plays. Teams know they need to put up points so they are going for it. Fenton has been a reliable guy in the past. Putting him on a guy like Adams is asking a lot of any corner. Not sure there was another answer and it seems like some adjustments were made in the second half. I like Fenton as a #2 guy or rotational piece. How is Reid doing? I dont hear much about him. Is this group better than last years? Is the lack of a pass rush the bigger issue? To me Fenton is inconsistent. He has good games and has had bad games. Last night was a bad one. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 5 hours ago, WichitaZRide said: Sorry....its Spaggs and scheme.... any idiot that's watched football would know that his plan for Adams last night was absolute trash. He fixed it about half way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, Calichief said: He fixed it about half way He was initially sacrificing secondary strength to devote more to stopping Jacobs. He had to change it up, and he did once he found that it was not the right plan. Nothing was being stopped. That's how I see it. It was a strategic idea that didn't work. No more complicated than that. AFCWEST and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Someone posted this. It is not my idea, but I agree with it. The difference between the Chiefs and the Raiders is that one team blew a 17 point lead to lose the game. The other team overcame a 17 point deficit to win the game. Though there was only a 1 point difference, the actual difference between the teams was evident in that reality. The Chiefs are superior. The best teams overcome deficits. The lesser teams blow leads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said: He was initially sacrificing secondary strength to devote more to stopping Jacobs. He had to change it up, and he did once he found that it was not the right plan. Nothing was being stopped. That's how I see it. It was a strategic idea that didn't work. No more complicated than that. Na, what I’m noting is - he slid Snead over to cover him. He finally took Fenton and Watson off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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