Chiefs vs Rams

[dhitter 1,424]

Mahomes' should absolutely torch the Rams defense. Andy Dalton looked like Joe Montana against the Rams last week. ANDY DALTON! The only chance the Rams have is ball control, slowed down grinder type game. Keep Mahomes off the field. It won't be enough...

Chiefs 38-Rams 17

[oldtimer 8,686]

too close for comfort as usual 

[AFCWEST 1,238]

Rams are an example of what happens to teams that trade away top picks on a consistent basis for the " Super Bowl or BUST All In Strategy ". Signing older big name stars to huge contracts can also be a recipe for mediocrity. Yes they did win a SB. They could have also lost that game and now are in CAP Hell as well as Draft Poverty.

KC now has a balanced approach that other teams must admire.

[ClarksvilleChief 193]

35-21 Chiefs

Still dont cover the spread...lol

[AFCWEST 1,238]

The Los Angeles way

For the last five seasons, the Rams have defined “all-in.” Almost every signing, trade or draft pick they have made has been focused on winning as soon as possible. No move better characterized this approach than the trade for quarterback Matt Stafford. After going to a Super Bowl with Jared Goff, Los Angeles pushed even harder to get over the hump.

The Rams have simply continued to float the bill for their roster. Their success now depends on the health and play of about five players: Aaron Donald, Cooper Kupp, Bobby Wagner, Ramsey and Stafford — all of whom are at least 28 years old. Los Angeles is on its way to the worst Super Bowl defense of all time for a simple reason: it does not have replacement-level players to fill roster holes. Right now, Donald is the only Rams starter that they drafted in the first round. The rest of the roster is propped up with trades, free agents and Day 2 and Day 3 draft picks.

The Rams’ future is bleak. They have one of the worst offensive lines in football — and the soon-to-be 30-year-old Kupp is essentially their only offensive weapon. Donald — while still elite — is also aging. Last year, he had to be convinced not to retire. Stafford has proven to be what he always was in Detroit: a streaky player with an injury history.

Meanwhile, the team has just $5.9 million in cap space projected for 2023 — and only six picks in the draft. Reportedly, head coach Sean McVay has also considered retiring.

Los Angeles has a lot of problems to fix — and very little with which to do it. As the saying goes, “flags fly forever.” But the new flag now flying in SoFo Stadium might have cost the Rams years of respectable football.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/for-the-chiefs-the-rams-are-a-cautionary-tale/ar-AA14y9kG?cvid=fae6bc9a36b74adea0906baf30269c00

[AFCWEST 1,238]

The Kansas City way

Probably the first (and most important point) to consider when comparing the two franchises are the quarterbacks. Stafford and Goff combined still do not measure up to Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs have had this clear advantage ever since the two teams played in 2018.

Though Kansas City had an all-in phase while Mahomes was on his rookie deal, the front office has shown restraint as his cost has increased. In 2019, many Chiefs fans were ready to get in their cars and drive to Jacksonville in order to acquire Ramsey. But the Chiefs saved their first-round picks — and still won the Super Bowl.

The Chiefs have also made tough salary-cap decisions. They’ve let good players like Mitch Morse, Tyrann Mathieu and Charvarius Ward walk away in free agency. Rather than re-signing Tyreek Hill (as Los Angeles did with Kupp), the Chiefs traded him for a crop of draft picks. Those became players who have filled key roles as the team locked up the AFC West for the seventh consecutive season.

And the Chiefs’ future remains bright. In 2023, they are projected to have $28 million in cap space and will have 11 picks in the draft — and will possess a roster filled with youth and promise.

[AFCWEST 1,238]

The bottom line

When the teams played in 2018, they looked much the same. But when the Rams come to town on Sunday, the teams will hardly look more different. While the two franchises have had similar results since they last met, their futures look nothing alike. On Sunday, the Rams will be 14.5-point underdogs to the Chiefs — and it looks like in the years ahead, Kansas City will continue to hold the advantage

[Calichief 3,016]

3 hours ago, oldtimer said:

too close for comfort as usual 

No way 

[Holmes4six! 968]

Chiefs should win this game and have an opportunity to try different people at the o line positions in particular RT. 
not sure about thuney starting either. 
we just got make sure mahomes is not touched! 

[dhitter 1,424]

1 hour ago, AFCWEST said:

The bottom line

When the teams played in 2018, they looked much the same. But when the Rams come to town on Sunday, the teams will hardly look more different. While the two franchises have had similar results since they last met, their futures look nothing alike. On Sunday, the Rams will be 14.5-point underdogs to the Chiefs — and it looks like in the years ahead, Kansas City will continue to hold the advantage

Good read. Some great points were made. However, when you compare both strategies they both have netted exactly 1 Super Bowl win. Chiefs are a more exciting team and their ceiling is much higher than the Rams. But when it comes to the ultimate goal....Chiefs are even. Gotta win that next one for oh so many reasons.

[reesebobby 5,662]

Normally I try to remain open to the possibility of the Chiefs losing.  Any given Sunday and what not.  David and Goliath.  Tortoise and the Hare.  That sort of thing.  But come on.  

[Burpo The Mad Clown 5,555]

 

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

On 11/23/2022 at 12:04 PM, AFCWEST said:

Trap Game?

 

According to Fan Duel, the Chiefs are favored by a rather ridiculous amount of 14.5 points. In a league known for its parity, the idea that any team could be 14.5-point favorites is a bit much but for a defending Super Bowl champion to be that disrespected is unheard of.

Then again, it’s rare for a former champ to limp into a matchup like the Rams are at this point. Right now, no one knows if quarterback Matthew Stafford will play or not. The offensive line is perhaps the NFL’s worst unit overall. The secondary has seen better days with below-average safeties providing little help. Cooper Kupp is out for several weeks with an injury as well. There’s very little to like on both sides of the ball.

It should also be said that the Rams are catching the Chiefs at the height of their momentum. They are dominating opponents and playing like they know what’s at stake. They’re well-coached and deep, young and ascending. They also employ the game’s best quarterback who is writing himself another MVP campaign.

There are such things as trap games.  But this ain't it.

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

7 hours ago, oldtimer said:

too close for comfort as usual 

You're right.......NAAAAH.

[AFCWEST 1,238]

4 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said:

There are such things as trap games.  But this ain't it.

Bengals up next. Easy to look past the Rams. I agree with you. Chiefs wont.

[AFCWEST 1,238]

Chiefs coach Andy Reid said JuJu Smith-Schuster (concussion) will play in Week 12 against the Rams.

JuJu took a brutal hit in Week 10 that sidelined him for the Chiefs' next game. He returned to practice this week with a full session on Wednesday, all but guaranteeing his return on Sunday. With Kadarius Toney and Mecole Hardman out this week, Smith-Schuster should see plenty of targets as Kansas City's top receiver once again. he will be a strong WR2 play versus the spiraling Rams

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

The Rams are battered. We may see Chad Henne in the 4th quarter.

[AFCWEST 1,238]

2 hours ago, Burpo The Mad Clown said:

 

Thanks enjoyed this! 

[AFCWEST 1,238]

Kadarius Toney (hamstring) will not play in Week 12 against the Rams.

Per Andy Reid, Toney is still dealing with the hamstring issue that sidelined him for most of his time in New York prior to his trade to Kansas City. Toney did not practice at all this week, possibly forecasting a multi-week absence from the speedy receiver. With Toney and Mecole Hardman missing, Justin Watson will step in as the Chiefs' third receiver. He is more of a DFS flier than a season-long option for Week 12.

[jetlord 10,209]

9 hours ago, oldtimer said:

too close for comfort as usual 

Yep.  Last time I was sure of a Chiefs win at Arrowhead was when they played the Colts in Jan. 1996.

[Burpo The Mad Clown 5,555]

4 hours ago, AFCWEST said:

Kadarius Toney (hamstring) will not play in Week 12 against the Rams.

Per Andy Reid, Toney is still dealing with the hamstring issue that sidelined him for most of his time in New York prior to his trade to Kansas City. Toney did not practice at all this week, possibly forecasting a multi-week absence from the speedy receiver. With Toney and Mecole Hardman missing, Justin Watson will step in as the Chiefs' third receiver. He is more of a DFS flier than a season-long option for Week 12.

Maybe Kadarius Watkins will be healthy for the playoffs. 

[dhitter 1,424]

If Andy would put the foot on the gas pedal I think Chiefs could drop 50 on this team. But we all know Andy doesn't like to embarrass other coaches. When is the last time the Chiefs absolutely blew out a team at Arrowhead?

[jetlord 10,209]

22 minutes ago, dhitter said:

If Andy would put the foot on the gas pedal I think Chiefs could drop 50 on this team. But we all know Andy doesn't like to embarrass other coaches. When is the last time the Chiefs absolutely blew out a team at Arrowhead?

Houston in the playoffs three years ago?

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

1 hour ago, dhitter said:

If Andy would put the foot on the gas pedal I think Chiefs could drop 50 on this team. But we all know Andy doesn't like to embarrass other coaches. When is the last time the Chiefs absolutely blew out a team at Arrowhead?

Very true.  I don't think Reid will want to risk Mahomes from Aaron Donald, so they will run as much as they can to keep them guessing and slow Donald.  They will try to win by a  touchdown and avoid embarrassing the Rams. Maybe 10 points. Just a wild guess.  But if they end up having to pull out all the stops, they will.

[dhitter 1,424]

1 hour ago, jetlord said:

Houston in the playoffs three years ago?

I really don't know the answer but that might be it. Chiefs are odd. They actually score more on the road. Their best offensive outputs (Cardinals, Buccaneers and Niners) all on the road.