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[arrowhead 1,070]

Belichick needs an OC. Andy should be on the phone talking up EB.

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3 minutes ago, arrowhead said:

Belichick needs an OC. Andy should be on the phone talking up EB.

Washington needs an OC as well...

[AFCWEST 1,238]

12 minutes ago, KC Warpaint said:

Washington needs an OC as well...

During the playoffs Andy should be finding EB a different job? really? 

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Breaking News: Bienemy is the leading candidate for all head coaching and Offensive Coordinator jobs that aren’t in KC for next season. Per me making up facts i want to exist

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9 hours ago, AFCWEST said:

So how many current NFL Qbs match up with PM and Herbert? Not many. Then you have SF starting Mr Irrelevant and winning. Some are picking SF to win the SB with the last guy drafted. A great coach can win with Wilson and all those weapons. I dont see the QB situation as a big negative in Denver. Great Job Great City Nice Climate and in the center of the country so you are not making those coast to coast road trips. Hackett was a complete joke.

Then there is the unlimited money that the new ownership brings. Thats all around better coaches, facilities, trainers etc. 

Finally: Denver can pay 20 million per year or more for a coach. Money talks. The just ate millions firing Hackett.  So they hire a coach for a huge guaranteed contract and it does not work out? They eat that money too and dont blink.

Jeudy and Sutton are solid but Wilson had a pretty pedistrian year last year with Metcalf and Lockett who are just as good if not better than the duo in Denver   With a better HC he will be better how much who knows.  Aging QBs not named Brady typically dont get much better with age.  

The millions that's owed to Hackett is 4 mill a year which isnt much in NFL money.  Just because you have unlimited money doesn't mean much if you don't use it wisely see the Cowboys and Washington as examples.  

Vegas now has Dan Quinn as the betting favorite. He was finalist last year and does have ties to Quinn when they worked together in Miami.  Both have expressed interest in working together again. They can pay 20 mill but they would be foolish to do so when the top guys are getting 10 to 12 and if its good job you shouldn't have to pay that much.  

Bottom line is this if they get Harbaugh good for them but i still believe KC and the Chargers are the better teams.  

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14 minutes ago, Okiechief1 said:

Jeudy and Sutton are solid but Wilson had a pretty pedistrian year last year with Metcalf and Lockett who are just as good if not better than the duo in Denver   With a better HC he will be better how much who knows.  Aging QBs not named Brady typically dont get much better with age.  

The millions that's owed to Hackett is 4 mill a year which isnt much in NFL money.  Just because you have unlimited money doesn't mean much if you don't use it wisely see the Cowboys and Washington as examples.  

Vegas now has Dan Quinn as the betting favorite. He was finalist last year and does have ties to Quinn when they worked together in Miami.  Both have expressed interest in working together again. They can pay 20 mill but they would be foolish to do so when the top guys are getting 10 to 12 and if its good job you shouldn't have to pay that much.  

Bottom line is this if they get Harbaugh good for them but i still believe KC and the Chargers are the better teams.  

To me, it’s doesn’t matter who they get, chiefs will continue to ball. 
From what I saw this past offseason, all of the high priced signings within division etc, us trading Hill etc. we just kept rolling. 
I don’t worry so much now. Chiefs will adjust with their new roster and keep on balling! 

 

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https://currently.att.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-coordinator-rise-years-why-123002638.html

This NFL coordinator has been on the rise for years. But why hasn't he been made a head coach yet?

Tom Schad, USA TODAY

Thu, January 12, 2023 at 6:30 AM CST

Over the past two decades, no coach has interviewed for more NFL head-coaching jobs without being hired than Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy.

According to USA TODAY Sports research, which tracked interviews using team announcements and news media reports, Bieniemy has interviewed for 15 head-coaching positions with 14 different teams over the past four hiring cycles. (He's twice been a candidate with the New York Jets.) Only eight teams during that span have hired a new head coach and not interviewed Bieniemy.

Yet despite his popularity as a candidate, the 53-year-old former running back has yet to be hired — a fact that has perplexed academics, coaches and others around the NFL, while turning Bieniemy into a poster child for the league's diversity issues.

"For whatever reason, he’s gotten caught up in this cycle of interviews with no head coaching offers," said Rod Graves, the executive director of the Fritz Pollard Alliance. "It does make you wonder."

The Chiefs declined to make Bieniemy available for an interview, and his agent did not respond to messages. But in 2020, the coach told USA TODAY Sports he was ready for a head-coaching opportunity, and hopeful about finding the right fit.

"When it comes to hiring, I can’t control what goes on in the owner’s head. I can’t force them to make the decision," Bieniemy said at the time. "My job is to make sure that when I’m in there giving that interview, I’m being my most authentic self. They get to see me, feel me for who I am and what I’m about."

Is Bieniemy a hot candidate for the 2023 NFL season?

It's unclear if Bieniemy will receive more interview opportunities in the next few weeks. But American University professor N. Jeremi Duru worries that he, like other coaching candidates before him, might now be in a precarious position — a hot-shot coaching candidate who's been in the mix for so long that his odds go cold.

"This narrative begins to develop that, 'hey maybe this person isn’t getting a job year after year for a reason.' And it’s unfortunate, and it’s unfair, but I’m worried that some owners are now running that narrative with respect to Eric Bieniemy," Duru explained.

"It would seem as though it should be an easy decision to hire Eric Bieniemy as a head coach. Now, because of that narrative, I think an owner who does it would be viewed as going out on a limb and really taking a chance."

With Bieniemy at the helm, the Chiefs' offense has been consistently among the NFL's best by a wide range of statistical markers — prompting researchers like Kennesaw State professor Joshua Pitts to explore his case in-depth.

In a study published last year, Pitts and two of his colleagues examined promotion probabilities among NFL coordinators from 2003 to 2020 and found that Black coordinators weren't statistically more or less likely than white coordinators to be hired as head coaches — with one notable exception. From 2018 to 2020, the researchers found evidence that Black coordinators were significantly less likely to get hired.

By changing only Bieniemy's race in their statistical models, they found that his estimated probability of becoming a head coach in 2020 increased by nearly 15%.

"His race has definitely harmed his likelihood of becoming a head coach," Pitts said. "Now is that because of discrimination, or is that because of something else? I don’t know."

Chiefs' success makes interview process more challenging

NBC Sports analyst and Hall of Fame coach Tony Dungy said he believes Bieniemy has, in some ways, been a victim of his team's success. Because the Chiefs are consistently in the playoffs, Bieniemy usually has had to squeeze interviews in between game prep, or hope a team will wait until after the season to interview him.

"He’s got a small window and he’s the hot commodity, so he’s doing three, four, five interviews in a cycle. You can’t be as prepared and you can’t know as much about the team," Dungy explained.

"I think the way we do it is ridiculous now. I would recommend no interviews, no hiring until after the Super Bowl, to make it fair for everybody."

In the meantime, Bieniemy continues to wait. Of the 15 coaches hired instead of him since 2019, seven have already been fired. An eighth, Bruce Arians, retired last spring.

"This is what I’ve always said: They can fire you! That’s what they do in the NFL," ESPN analyst Herm Edwards said. "(Bieniemy) deserves an opportunity at least."

Edwards, a former Chiefs head coach, said he thinks Bieniemy's best move at this point would be to wait until current head coach Andy Reid retires, in hopes that owner Clark Hunt will hire him as Reid's successor.

"I think the owner who does give Eric Bieniemy a chance will be rewarded substantially," added Duru. "But we’ll see if that happens."

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Edwards, a former Chiefs head coach, said he thinks Bieniemy's best move at this point would be to wait until current head coach Andy Reid retires, in hopes that owner Clark Hunt will hire him as Reid's successor.

man wouldn't that be a kick in the junk if Andy were to retire and Clark go outside the organization 

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6 hours ago, KC Warpaint said:

man wouldn't that be a kick in the junk if Andy were to retire and Clark go outside the organization 

It would more of kick in junk if he took over after Reid left. Yikes. Time to move on 

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1 hour ago, SEMO said:

 

Interesting.

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1 hour ago, SEMO said:

 

EB would be a good fit there if they come up with a good QB.  Rest of the team is okay.  Hope Irsay isn't just filling a square.  

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14 hours ago, oldtimer said:

"I think the way we do it is ridiculous now. I would recommend no interviews, no hiring until after the Super Bowl, to make it fair for everybody."

I don't think it would be fair to the team looking for a HC but it would definitely be quite interesting. 

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Indy just interviewed him.  As far as Sean Payton goes.  New Orleans still owns the rights to him and if I was New Orleans ,  I would demand at least 2 first round draft picks for his services if not more.  Personally,  I think if you retire from football as a coach or player,  you should have to sit out the remainder of your contract before coming back into the league.  

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2 hours ago, Docbarnabee said:

Indy just interviewed him.  As far as Sean Payton goes.  New Orleans still owns the rights to him and if I was New Orleans ,  I would demand at least 2 first round draft picks for his services if not more.  Personally,  I think if you retire from football as a coach or player,  you should have to sit out the remainder of your contract before coming back into the league.  

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Colts’ owner Jim Irsay announced his team interviewed Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy for its head coaching job.

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20 hours ago, KC Warpaint said:

man wouldn't that be a kick in the junk if Andy were to retire and Clark go outside the organization 

I'm not sure if I like the idea of EB running this ship.   I'm not against it either per se, but he doesn't call plays and I've never heard his name come up when they talk about designing or creating plays and he gets in public beefs with Mahomes at times.   I think he is a leader and a motivator and those are great qualities for a HC so who knows.  

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Even though I expect a replacement for Reid to come in from within the organization I'm expecting someone like Kafka or Pederson to come back and take over with Kafka being more likely due to his familiarity with Mahomes.

The fact that quite a bit of people in KC are hesitant to see EB running the show is an indicator of his level IMO. 

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11 minutes ago, sith13 said:

Even though I expect a replacement for Reid to come in from within the organization I'm expecting someone like Kafka or Pederson to come back and take over with Kafka being more likely due to his familiarity with Mahomes.

The fact that quite a bit of people in KC are hesitant to see EB running the show is an indicator of his level IMO. 

agreed Kafka being under Reid and now Daibol..his stock will raise fast too. I'd not be surprised if he gets a few sniffs this off season

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28 minutes ago, oldtimer said:

agreed Kafka being under Reid and now Daibol..his stock will raise fast too. I'd not be surprised if he gets a few sniffs this off season

He already is.  At least the Texans have requested an interview

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13 hours ago, jetlord said:

EB would be a good fit there if they come up with a good QB.  Rest of the team is okay.  Hope Irsay isn't just filling a square.  

Feels like they are getting their Rooney rule candidate out of the way, but who knows!  Hope its a legit interview!

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1 minute ago, Lamardirts said:

Feels like they are getting their Rooney rule candidate out of the way, but who knows!  Hope its a legit interview!

they had previously chkd that box.   I think Ballard had something to do with this interview

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1 hour ago, xen said:

He already is.  At least the Texans have requested an interview

The Panthers also requested too iirc.   This will cause other teams to bring him in if only to see why the others did.  

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The Chiefs desperately need a Bienemyenema.

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Wild ass guesses. 
 

EB to Denver - desperate enough to take it and nobody else is dumb enough to sign on. In today’s NFL, nothing matters if you don’t have a quarterback. It’s great to have a defense, but you CANNOT win in this league worth out a QB. Wilson is 34 and done. I don’t think people appreciate where they are. They spent 2 ones and 2 twos, They gave him a 5-year contract with 20 million more guaranteed than Mahomes 10-year contract. Let that sink in. What in the hell were they thinking. 

Harbaugh stays at M - Carolina can’t get him the top QB. Houston can so there and SD are the only way I go from being a god with life time job to the waiting list to be fired. 

Payton to SD - their coach has made costly mistakes that even the strength and conditioning coach would know better than to do. With Harbaugh and Payton available, they better make that move or continue to Charger. 

Houston is a sneaky good job. 1st overall pick. Take HC and GM with a stipulation that ownership shall STFU or fire me. The only thing I want to hear from then is ‘you’re fired’. Until then, you have no say. 

AZ is not the worst gig. Flutie is only 25. Carolina also with the #9 pick, but would need to move up to get a QB. 
 

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6 minutes ago, DieHard said:

Flutie is only 25

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