oldtimer 8,684 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Just now, xen said: ...In that those matches were fixed too? all I'm saying is that if you snooze on the Jags they'll bite you even if they are 28 down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K46k9jMhEs This is a must watch hilarious Charger Fan take on the season from draft day to the big choke. Really you want to watch this. It has 117k views. For those that love beating up on the media Charger Hype you will COLLECT this video. Im still laughing. TomahawkChop, NCK Chiefs Fan, DieHard and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 we used to be THAT guy! Pre Mahomes! AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Spfdchiefsfan said: we used to be THAT guy! Pre Mahomes! This guy does videos for all teams. His KC take of the 2021 Season is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Spfdchiefsfan said: we used to be THAT guy! Pre Mahomes! I was that guy last year after the AFCCG. sith13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, AFCWEST said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K46k9jMhEs This is a must watch hilarious Charger Fan take on the season from draft day to the big choke. Really you want to watch this. It has 117k views. For those that love beating up on the media Charger Hype you will COLLECT this video. Im still laughing. Didn't they fire Marty after he won 12 games and take them to the AFCCG? Marty must have put a curse on them. artsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpo The Mad Clown 5,554 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, AFCWEST said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K46k9jMhEs This is a must watch hilarious Charger Fan take on the season from draft day to the big choke. Really you want to watch this. It has 117k views. For those that love beating up on the media Charger Hype you will COLLECT this video. Im still laughing. This guy is great. I sometimes watch his reaction videos to live games. Always entertaining. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Chargers Enter Salary Cap Hell After Embarrassing Playoff Loss Story by Ryan Phillips • Yesterday 3:04 PM https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/chargers-enter-salary-cap-hell-after-embarrassing-playoff-loss/ar-AA16n99H?cvid=3a70229259ba46fd95ab6f305b2fa1ae As things stand, the Chargers are roughly $10 million over the cap for the 2023 season, the fifth-worst situation in the league. Lest you think they might be able to cut some guy and supplement the roster, they rank 23rd in draft capital. And those numbers come before giving Justin Herbert an extension, which could be worth upwards of $50 million a season. The big issue for the Chargers is there aren't any easy cuts. The team's biggest cap hits belong to Joey Bosa ($31 million), Khalil Mack ($27.4 million), Keenan Allen ($21.7 million), Mike Williams ($19 million), J.C. Jackson ($17 million) and Corey Linsley ($13.1 million). It would be hard to move each of those guys. While he's injured a lot, Bosa is an All-Pro talent and cutting him would cause a $38 million cap hit. He's going nowhere. Mack would cost $9 million if he was cut, but the Chargers gave up second- and sixth-round picks for him last offseason. It would be irresponsible to cut him after one lackluster year. That said, of anyone on this list, he's the most likely to go because it would save the team $18.4 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Williams was injured for most of the season, a theme throughout his career. But cutting him would cause a $26 million cap hit. He'll be back. Cutting J.C. Jackson -- who was a terrible signing -- would cost $32 million. Again, this was a horrible contract from the start for the Chargers and they're stuck with him. Linsley is Herbert's center and the heart of the offensive line. He's staying. Besides, cutting him would cause a $7.8 million cap hit. There could be some contract restructuring from that group, but that just kicks the can down the road for an even worse cap situation in the future. The true cut candidates are Mack. cornerback Michael Davis ($7.4 million in cap savings), guard Matt Feiler ($6.5 million in savings) and defensive tackle Austin Johnson ($3.4 million in savings). The issue with cutting any of those guys is there aren't replacements on the roster and, as noted, the team doesn't have a ton of draft assets to add starters. There are no good options for how to move forward. Additionally, the Chargers have a number of key free agents. Safety Nasir Adderley will almost surely be too expensive to retain. Wide receiver/kick returner Deandre Carter, backup quarterback Chase Daniel, receiver Jalen Guyton, tackles Trey Pipkins and Storm Norman, punter J.K. Scott, and linebackers Drue Tranquill and Kyle Van Noy are all free agents. It's likely most of those guys won't be back because LA simply can't afford to retain them. Then comes the matter of Herbert's extension. After three seasons of excellence, the 24-year-old should be getting a huge extension this offseason. The going rate for a top-level franchise quarterback is between $40 million and $50 million a year. While any deal would likely start after the 2023 season, it's still a substantial cash outlay that needs to be put in place now and would hamper any long-term additions. The realization from all this is that 2022 was the Chargers' year to win big. Given how they operated over the offseason, they knew it. Giving up a ton for J.C. Jackson and Khalil Mack, while overpaying for average interior defenders like Austin Jackson and Sebastian Joseph-Day reeked of desperation in a last gasp of trying to piece together a roster capable of making a run. Instead, they went 10-7 and flopped in embarrassing fashion to end the season. The Chargers embarrassed themselves Saturday night in Jacksonville. And the worst part is yet to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: Williams was injured for most of the season, a theme throughout his career. But cutting him would cause a $26 million cap hit. He'll be back. Cutting J.C. Jackson -- who was a terrible signing -- would cost $32 million. Again, this was a horrible contract from the start for the Chargers and they're stuck with him. Linsley is Herbert's center and the heart of the offensive line. He's staying. Besides, cutting him would cause a $7.8 million cap hit. There could be some contract restructuring from that group, but that just kicks the can down the road for an even worse cap situation in the future. The true cut candidates are Mack. cornerback Michael Davis ($7.4 million in cap savings), guard Matt Feiler ($6.5 million in savings) and defensive tackle Austin Johnson ($3.4 million in savings). The issue with cutting any of those guys is there aren't replacements on the roster and, as noted, the team doesn't have a ton of draft assets to add starters. There are no good options for how to move forward. Additionally, the Chargers have a number of key free agents. Safety Nasir Adderley will almost surely be too expensive to retain. Wide receiver/kick returner Deandre Carter, backup quarterback Chase Daniel, receiver Jalen Guyton, tackles Trey Pipkins and Storm Norman, punter J.K. Scott, and linebackers Drue Tranquill and Kyle Van Noy are all free agents. It's likely most of those guys won't be back because LA simply can't afford to retain them. Then comes the matter of Herbert's extension. After three seasons of excellence, the 24-year-old should be getting a huge extension this offseason. The going rate for a top-level franchise quarterback is between $40 million and $50 million a year. While any deal would likely start after the 2023 season, it's still a substantial cash outlay that needs to be put in place now and would hamper any long-term additions. The realization from all this is that 2022 was the Chargers' year to win big. Given how they operated over the offseason, they knew it. Giving up a ton for J.C. Jackson and Khalil Mack, while overpaying for average interior defenders like Austin Jackson and Sebastian Joseph-Day reeked of desperation in a last gasp of trying to piece together a roster capable of making a run. Instead, they went 10-7 and flopped in embarrassing fashion to end the season. The Chargers embarrassed themselves Saturday night in Jacksonville. And the worst part is yet to come. If they cut Mack, we should give him a phone call....Just saying. mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, artsy said: If they cut Mack, we should give him a phone call....Just saying. Any others worth looking at? I don't follow the chargers to know their DT, S etc where we would grab one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 well.. they did us a favor.. the chargers.. they seemingly where not happy with the fact that the texans had the largest come back from behind win, over the chiefs.. the chargers... needed to be find a way to beat the chiefs at something and they did.. They can loose after being ahead by more than the chiefs can.. Congrats guys. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Any others worth looking at? I don't follow the chargers to know their DT, S etc where we would grab one of them. Unless they wanna dump Asante Samuel Jr,, Nick Bosa or Derwin James, I don't see anyone else on defense worth grabbing.. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Any others worth looking at? I don't follow the chargers to know their DT, S etc where we would grab one of them. Not really. Their D sucks. Nobody better than what KC has. Chargers had no talented depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, AFCWEST said: Not really. Their D sucks. Nobody better than what KC has. Chargers had no talented depth. They might try and dump Mike Williams too. Would you take a shot on him if he becomes a FA?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, artsy said: They might try and dump Mike Williams too. Would you take a shot on him if he becomes a FA?? No. Always injured. Chiefs are deep at receiver. Keep Shuster. artsy and Lamardirts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: No. Always injured. Chiefs are deep at receiver. Keep Shuster. Oh yea..One more question for you AFC... Would you consider Deandre Hopkins if Juju wants too much money?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, artsy said: Oh yea..One more question for you AFC... Would you consider Deandre Hopkins if Juju wants too much money?? No. Could have kept Hill if KC wants to pay big bucks. Cant pay everyone. Toney may, maybe, is a true #1? Hopkins will want big bucks and I think you have to trade to get him. Pass. oldtimer and qnet 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,684 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I'd kick the tires on Keenan Allen if JuJu leaves AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I'd kick the tires on Keenan Allen if JuJu leaves His cap hit for them is over 21 million per the article. So Chargers keep him? oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: I'd kick the tires on Keenan Allen if JuJu leaves Yea, I don't think LA would cut Allen, but they might try and trade him. IDK if would trade anything higher than a 3rd for him. Like Williams, the dude is always hurt. But AZ might CUT Hopkins....I would kick the tires on him if they did. Especially if JuJu wants a boatload of loot... oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, artsy said: Yea, I don't think LA would cut Allen, but they might try and trade him. IDK if would trade anything higher than a 3rd for him. Like Williams, the dude is always hurt. But AZ might CUT Hopkins....I would kick the tires on him if they did. Especially if JuJu wants a boatload of loot... Then you take on that contract. I dont like giving up picks and paying top dollar. Its a Clark/Brown deal. Veach may see receivers and corners as not going tp pay big bucks? Hopkins likely would want BIG BUCKS TOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okiechief1 425 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 One of the issues with doing the things the Chargers did is eventually the bill comes due and some tough decisions are going to have to be made. Bills arent going to be as bad i don't think but between Miller Allen and Diggs there is almost 45 mil in cap dollars they now have to account for in 23 that wasn't there this year. Pressure was all on both teams this year. Chargers to at least win the division and make a deep run and the Bills anything less than a SB and it was all for nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Okiechief1 said: One of the issues with doing the things the Chargers did is eventually the bill comes due and some tough decisions are going to have to be made. Bills arent going to be as bad i don't think but between Miller Allen and Diggs there is almost 45 mil in cap dollars they now have to account for in 23 that wasn't there this year. Pressure was all on both teams this year. Chargers to at least win the division and make a deep run and the Bills anything less than a SB and it was all for nothing Worked for the Rams and now the Rams are paying for it. I like the KC approach. qnet, oldtimer and artsy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okiechief1 425 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, AFCWEST said: Worked for the Rams and now the Rams are paying for it. I like the KC approach. I work with somebody that's a Rams fan and she was saying they don't have 1st rd pic till 2026? Yea agreed i like kcs approach AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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