Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 No one seems to have talked about this other than to express puzzlement, but I have a theory. His story and symptoms sound to me like he strained his psoas muscle and ileo-psoas tendon. That is one of the core muscles and its tendon. It is a big one that extends from the spine downward and slightly forward and attaches to the inside of the pelvic bone. It is a main muscle you use to bend to the side and straighten up and would explain that much of the pain was in the abdomen as well as the pelvis. A bad psoas strain would be like a bad hamstring strain in that it would take weeks and weeks and leave you susceptible to straining it again. Might have even torn some muscle fibers in it. Just my guess. They are obviously being very cautious in hopes he can play in the playoffs, but my guess is ileo-psoas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xen 1,010,220 Posted January 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2023 I read it's a grade 2 vagina sprain. Almost a grade 3. artsy, Fmbl2187, arthur75 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, xen said: I read it's a grade 2 vagina sprain. Almost a grade 3. My wife gets those REGULARLY! Troyofoc and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xen 1,010,220 Posted January 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, Spfdchiefsfan said: My wife gets those REGULARLY! Listen I already apologized. Let it go. Fmbl2187, reesebobby, Spfdchiefsfan and 5 others 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said: my guess is ileo-psoas. I heard the Bosas had ileo psosas. jetlord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetlord 10,209 Posted January 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said: No one seems to have talked about this other than to express puzzlement, but I have a theory. His story and symptoms sound to me like he strained his psoas muscle and ileo-psoas tendon. That is one of the core muscles and its tendon. It is a big one that extends from the spine downward and slightly forward and attaches to the inside of the pelvic bone. It is a main muscle you use to bend to the side and straighten up and would explain that much of the pain was in the abdomen as well as the pelvis. A bad psoas strain would be like a bad hamstring strain in that it would take weeks and weeks and leave you susceptible to straining it again. Might have even torn some muscle fibers in it. Just my guess. They are obviously being very cautious in hopes he can play in the playoffs, but my guess is ileo-psoas. Just what I was going to say but you beat me to it. 🙂 xen, Burpo The Mad Clown, mex and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, mex said: I heard the Bosas had ileo psosas. I don't think so, but he sure can give you a pso' ass and that'll make you quite ileo. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, jetlord said: Just what I was going to say but you beat me to it. 🙂 I was worried you were going to beat me to it, so I hurried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Well hardman not practicing. I don’t know what the hell is going on. contract year perhaps. He has been off for 10 weeks or so. we sure could use him as make start our run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Holmes4six! said: Well hardman not practicing. I don’t know what the hell is going on. contract year perhaps. He has been off for 10 weeks or so. we sure could use him as make start our run. He has Lamar Jackson Syndrome. It wont help him get a better contract. Reid said that he, Hardman, is not happy with how he feels. He did not say the traing staff supports that. Good thing Toney is ready! Lots of players would give the right nut to appear in a playoff game. Hardman seems to take playoff for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: He has Lamar Jackson Syndrome. It wont help him get a better contract. Reid said that he, Hardman, is not happy with how he feels. He did not say the traing staff supports that. Good thing Toney is ready! Lots of players would give the right nut to appear in a playoff game. Hardman seems to take playoff for granite. I agree. Drives me nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Welp... they brought CEH and Fortson back from IR. They got 21 days to activate or shut them down for the year. That means they can stay active until 5 days before the SB. If Pacheco and McKinnon can stay healthy... same with Kelce, Gray and Bell... who would they cut to make room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, mex said: Welp... they brought CEH and Fortson back from IR. They got 21 days to activate or shut them down for the year. That means they can stay active until 5 days before the SB. If Pacheco and McKinnon can stay healthy... same with Kelce, Gray and Bell... who would they cut to make room? No one, they are done for the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, Spfdchiefsfan said: No one, they are done for the year You sure about that? There's a reason they took them off IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okiechief1 425 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, AFCWEST said: He has Lamar Jackson Syndrome. It wont help him get a better contract. Reid said that he, Hardman, is not happy with how he feels. He did not say the traing staff supports that. Good thing Toney is ready! Lots of players would give the right nut to appear in a playoff game. Hardman seems to take playoff for granite. https://www.kshb.com/sports/chiefs-coach-andy-reid-says-hes-backing-off-wr-mecole-hardman-as-he-continues-to-recover-from-injury This article has a slightly different quote from Reid and he even indicates that they have been pushing him. It could very well be that his body isn't responding like it should to whatever they have been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, AFCWEST said: He has Lamar Jackson Syndrome. It wont help him get a better contract. Reid said that he, Hardman, is not happy with how he feels. He did not say the traing staff supports that. Good thing Toney is ready! Lots of players would give the right nut to appear in a playoff game. Hardman seems to take playoff for granite. Sorry, had to but if he is a hard man, making him out of granite...... he should be better at taking hits than taking it for granted. oldtimer, mex, qnet and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 1:47 AM, Okiechief1 said: https://www.kshb.com/sports/chiefs-coach-andy-reid-says-hes-backing-off-wr-mecole-hardman-as-he-continues-to-recover-from-injury This article has a slightly different quote from Reid and he even indicates that they have been pushing him. It could very well be that his body isn't responding like it should to whatever they have been doing. That will help him get a 1-year deal somewhere followed by likely another one elsewhere until he fades away in 2-3 years. Smaller guys that have hard time recovering from non-surgery injuries don't really make it in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okiechief1 425 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 hours ago, sith13 said: That will help him get a 1-year deal somewhere followed by likely another one elsewhere until he fades away in 2-3 years. Smaller guys that have hard time recovering from non-surgery injuries don't really make it in the NFL. Agreed. As of right now he has 25 rec for 289 n 4 TDs. He's probably going to have to take a 1 yr prove it deal whether it be here or somewhere else cause he isn't gong to get a multi year deal worth anything. oldtimer and AFCWEST 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Okiechief1 said: Agreed. As of right now he has 25 rec for 289 n 4 TDs. He's probably going to have to take a 1 yr prove it deal whether it be here or somewhere else cause he isn't gong to get a multi year deal worth anything. Probably stays in KC. May try the market and return on a cheap prove it deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 42 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: Probably stays in KC. May try the market and return on a cheap prove it deal. and could be the Chiefs let him explore his options and gain a draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, oldtimer said: and could be the Chiefs let him explore his options and gain a draft pick Another seventh, although Veach did pretty well in that round this last draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 All I know is that all this injury stuff probably really hurt his market value. Although he never really missed games, it sure felt like his entire career he's get hurt in ever single game in some way, shape or form. And now in his first season as a "featured" WR, he has been hurt all season long and continues to have multiple things going on. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 He is either actually hurt, or thinks he is a top WR on the free agent market and isn’t rushing to get back. dudes been unreliable his whole career. im fairly confident some team is gonna offer him 10+ mil a year because he is fast and comes from the chiefs offense, but it wont be us. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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