mongo 92 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Even as Raider hating Chiefs fan you had to appreciate what a special weapon Ray Guy was. Every player, Raider or not, speaks to how he could change a game. Remember when he hit the Astrodome roof? He was terrific and the HOF was long overdue. I'm glad it was finally corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,683 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 he is rightfully deserving even if he is a Raider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcchief4lif 910 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 His road to canton show on NFL network is great. Me and the kids are watching it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Reminds me how great Jerrel Wilson was for KC. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,218 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Peter King on Guy vs Wilson: We are often asked on the committee—most recently, and loudly, by punter Chris Kluwe—why there are no punters in the Hall, why we have a bias against kicking-game specialists. I don’t think we do. I think we want to enshrine players who have truly separated themselves on the field. I have believed part of the Guy sentiment comes from the rabid Raider fandom over the years, and from teammates who thought him a true difference-maker. I’ve often said to people, “Compare Guy to Jerrel Wilson, and tell me why we’re talking Ray Guy and not Jerrel Wilson. Wilson was a peer of Guy’s, and their careers intersected during the ’70s, Wilson in Kansas City and Guy in Oakland. A couple of numbers to consider: Wilson, in 217 career games, averaged 43.0 yards per punt and had seven seasons with averages over 44 yards. Guy, in 207 career games, averaged 42.4 yards per punt and had one season averaging more than 44 yards. Wilson led his league five times in average per punt (three NFL, two AFL.) Guy led the NFL in punting average the same as Wilson—three times. Other numbers and other testimony will come into play. But one that I’ve asked a few times over the years is this: Is punting really a different game between 1973, when Guy entered football, and today? Should it matter that 82 punters have better averages than Guy’s 42.4 in NFL history? It shouldn’t be the total determining factor, yards per punt. But it’s got to be in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo 92 Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share Posted August 6, 2014 He didn't account for net yards or hang time. I don't know nor care who had more net yards, but there is a difference. Although I was young I do remember Ray Guy having wicked hang time on his punts. I also recall that he was considered the best punter of his era. I can't speak to Jerrel Wilson. I know he was very good. I know there was some overlap between Guy's and his careers. There's no reason both can't be enshrined. Maybe now that Guy has shattered the glass ceiling, who knows? It comes across as pretty ignorant for King to say there isn't a difference in punting today. The athletes playing today are superior physically at all positions. Does Jack Lambert not belong in the HOF because at 218 lbs he'd be too small to play MLB today and too slow to play SS? Drop him, as was, into today's game and he probably doesn't make a roster. Lambert belongs because he was dominant during the time he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 A Lot of kickers and punters belong in the Hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo 92 Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yep, Shane Lechler comes to mind immediately. Adam Viniatieri should be a lock. Maybe one day our own Dustin Colquitt! He's an ace in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjon3 17 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 LOL.. Lin Elliot anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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