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Is Patrick Mahomes already the best QB ever? It's not really a wild notion anymore

Charles McDonald
Charles McDonald
·NFL columnist
Fri, February 10, 2023 at 7:09 PM CST
 
 

Greatness is happening with the NFL right now. Sports fans can be harsh in the moment on accepting the levels of dominance that are right in front of their very eyes, but something that is almost impossible to comprehend is happening. It sounds wild to say this about a 27-year-old player, especially a quarterback, but it’s fair to ask the question: Is Patrick Mahomes the best quarterback ever?

"Greatest" is impossible to parse, and so is "best" to a lesser degree, but this is a great time to pause and reflect on the unbelievable start that Mahomes has gotten to his career. Five straight AFC championship games, he just won his second MVP award and has a chance to add to his Super Bowl title collection with another win this weekend. Oh yeah, and he has three All-Pro selections, a Pro Bowl selection for every year that he’s played and an Offensive Player of the Year award in 2018 — along with his first MVP award.

Say it with me now: That is crazy. No quarterback has been as dominant as Mahomes has been over the five-season start to his career. There’s no problem acknowledging that and quite frankly, it already vaults him into the category of the most accomplished quarterbacks that have ever stepped foot on a professional field. That part is true no matter how anyone feels about Mahomes — and logically, should have people willing to put him in the best of all time conversation already.

Longevity will push him out of this conversation for many people since his NFL career really only started in 2018, but unheard of production and accolades are still unheard of production and accolades. It shouldn’t take a 20-year career for people to respect and wrap their heads around what they’re seeing right now. If he can win one more somewhat random one-game sample this weekend and lock in another Super Bowl title, people will probably be more receptive to the idea that this 27-year old still very much in his prime is the best quarterback ever.

The larger sample shows that he has put up some unbelievable numbers so far. Mahomes has led the NFL in ESPN’s Quarterback Rating metric twice since 2018, has thrown for at least 37 touchdowns in four of his five seasons and has led the league in touchdown passes twice. One of those seasons, this season, was without the services of Tyreek Hill, who was shipped off to Miami in exchange for a first-round pick. Losing a player as dynamic as Hill would be a significant death blow for most teams to climb over. The Chiefs are still right where they want to be, in what has been somewhat of a retooling year for them.

The Atlas-level ability to carry an offense, the statistical dominance, the actual joy that comes from watching him play. Mahomes has hit that peak-LeBron James status where simply having him on the roster ensures that the Chiefs will be in championship contention — like five straight AFC championship games (all at home) and now three Super Bowl trips.

Mahomes is undoubtedly the best quarterback in the league today and he is so far ahead of his peers that it’s fair to bring the entire scope of NFL history into play. He’s the best there, too.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/is-patrick-mahomes-already-the-best-qb-ever-its-not-really-a-wild-notion-anymore-010901652.html

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4 hours ago, SEMO said:

Is Patrick Mahomes already the best QB ever? It's not really a wild notion anymore

Charles McDonald
Charles McDonald
·NFL columnist
Fri, February 10, 2023 at 7:09 PM CST
 
 

Greatness is happening with the NFL right now. Sports fans can be harsh in the moment on accepting the levels of dominance that are right in front of their very eyes, but something that is almost impossible to comprehend is happening. It sounds wild to say this about a 27-year-old player, especially a quarterback, but it’s fair to ask the question: Is Patrick Mahomes the best quarterback ever?

"Greatest" is impossible to parse, and so is "best" to a lesser degree, but this is a great time to pause and reflect on the unbelievable start that Mahomes has gotten to his career. Five straight AFC championship games, he just won his second MVP award and has a chance to add to his Super Bowl title collection with another win this weekend. Oh yeah, and he has three All-Pro selections, a Pro Bowl selection for every year that he’s played and an Offensive Player of the Year award in 2018 — along with his first MVP award.

Say it with me now: That is crazy. No quarterback has been as dominant as Mahomes has been over the five-season start to his career. There’s no problem acknowledging that and quite frankly, it already vaults him into the category of the most accomplished quarterbacks that have ever stepped foot on a professional field. That part is true no matter how anyone feels about Mahomes — and logically, should have people willing to put him in the best of all time conversation already.

Longevity will push him out of this conversation for many people since his NFL career really only started in 2018, but unheard of production and accolades are still unheard of production and accolades. It shouldn’t take a 20-year career for people to respect and wrap their heads around what they’re seeing right now. If he can win one more somewhat random one-game sample this weekend and lock in another Super Bowl title, people will probably be more receptive to the idea that this 27-year old still very much in his prime is the best quarterback ever.

The larger sample shows that he has put up some unbelievable numbers so far. Mahomes has led the NFL in ESPN’s Quarterback Rating metric twice since 2018, has thrown for at least 37 touchdowns in four of his five seasons and has led the league in touchdown passes twice. One of those seasons, this season, was without the services of Tyreek Hill, who was shipped off to Miami in exchange for a first-round pick. Losing a player as dynamic as Hill would be a significant death blow for most teams to climb over. The Chiefs are still right where they want to be, in what has been somewhat of a retooling year for them.

The Atlas-level ability to carry an offense, the statistical dominance, the actual joy that comes from watching him play. Mahomes has hit that peak-LeBron James status where simply having him on the roster ensures that the Chiefs will be in championship contention — like five straight AFC championship games (all at home) and now three Super Bowl trips.

Mahomes is undoubtedly the best quarterback in the league today and he is so far ahead of his peers that it’s fair to bring the entire scope of NFL history into play. He’s the best there, too.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/is-patrick-mahomes-already-the-best-qb-ever-its-not-really-a-wild-notion-anymore-010901652.html

That article is kind of a jinx. 

Patrick needs to break the 23-year NFL MVP jinx too. MVPs are 0-9 in the SB since 2000.

Tomorrow we'll break the jinx.

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5 hours ago, oldtimer said:

JFC Christ there ya gone and did it and got my BP  up again just when I was feeling confident

He's the first QB to have a receiver leave and make 1st team all pro their first year with a new team, and that QB reach the superbowl or win MVP in the same year.

Pat eats history for breakfast.

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On 2/9/2023 at 10:06 PM, xen said:

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Whatever that thing is, it is devouring her head while she's alive.  It looks like something from "The Last of Us."  Or maybe "Mars Attacks."

It's got two big eyes in front, and its lips are already pulling in her forehead.

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1 hour ago, oldtimer said:

I aint buying it 

It's going to be a carefully designed play thrown behind his back into the back of Orlando Brown, who will have turned exactly 30º to his left exactly at the angle where it will carom into the arms of Jerrick McKinnon sweeping around behind him 3 yards and to Brown's left. McKinnon will never cross the line of scrimmage but will turn to his right and toss it to Kelce, who will take it to the house.   It will be called "BILLIARD"  It will go for a toiuchdown with 7 seconds left in the game and produce a 4 point victory.  Mahomes will be pre-awarded the MVP for the ensuing 3 years after it is discovered by the NFL that it was practiced exactly like that six times during the previous week.  Later, Brown and McKinnon will be traded for 6 more draft picks and the Chiefs will re-name themselves the "Kansas City Fatbacks" and prohibit the tomahawk chop at games in deference to several Native tribes protesting in Connecticut.

They have been practicing it all week.

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