Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 https://www.nfl.com/news/titans-releasing-three-time-pro-bowler-lt-taylor-lewan-after-nine-seasons Wonder if we start sniffing around Lewan to help us let Brown know there are options out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 He has missed a ton of games the last three years. Not sure how much pressure that will put on OBJ's camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefThunder 153 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 How about Lewan at RT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,208 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 The guys been hurt and is in the thirties, I believe. Not a solution for more than a year if he's finally healthy and maybe not even then. There's a reason he was released at $14 million/yr. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 Well, my plan would not be to sign him, but to use him as leverage to make OBJ see that there are options out there, cheaper options if he doesn't sign the RIGHT deal. No way I pay him 23 Mill/year after he sucked for like the first 10 games this year until he realized oh shit, I am killing my value, I'll play now. Then he gets paid and does that shit again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, ChiefThunder said: How about Lewan at RT? Patrick loves Wylie. So does Andy. He ain't going anywhere. oldtimer and artsy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, mex said: Patrick loves Wylie. So does Andy. He ain't going anywhere. Love him all they want, if they see he is not up to par per game film, stats etc and there is an upgrade out there...... Andy will move on. Not saying they don't bring him back as depth or a swing tackle etc. I just think if you gave to plan help all the time on his side with chipping, you are losing a player that could be schemed into the play instead of helping. Andy and the rest has to see him for what he is, depth and a spot starter if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Love him all they want, if they see he is not up to par per game film, stats etc and there is an upgrade out there...... Andy will move on. Not saying they don't bring him back as depth or a swing tackle etc. I juat think if you gave ti plan help all the time on his side with chipping, you are losing a player that could be schemed into the play instead of helping. Andy and the rest has to see him for what he is, depth and a spot starter if needed. He's been a starter for two straight seasons, and his performance has improved big time. I'm no expert, but y'all are delusional if you think they're looking to dump him, especially if OBJ is in question. Now, if he asks for more money than he's worth, that's a different story. AFCWEST and West 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowhead 1,070 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Lewan has talked retirement. West and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, mex said: He's been a starter for two straight seasons, and his performance has improved big time. I'm no expert, but y'all are delusional if you think they're looking to dump him, especially if OBJ is in question. Now, if he asks for more money than he's worth, that's a different story. I'd rather spend money on a better rt if one is there for it. Wylie was one of the worse at allowing pressures on a qb. I would have to see the penalties and sacks given up, but he was in need of help a lot of the time on his side. An improved player that is still a liability is not one you want protecting Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, mex said: Patrick loves Wylie. So does Andy. He ain't going anywhere. If I were the Chiefs, I'd pay Wylie. To leave. artsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Wylie was 60th out of 81 tackles per PFF rating. I know I don't always agree with it but it does show where he lands. https://www.pff.com/nfl/grades/position/t Wylie surrendered nine sacks and 49 total pressures over the season. His spot is an obvious area for Kansas City to upgrade in 2023. ouch! And this is with him getting help too at times. That is 2.88 pressures per game with .52 sacks allowed per game. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2022-nfl-offensive-line-rankings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, kkuenn said: I'd rather spend money on a better rt if one is there for it. Wylie was one of the worse at allowing pressures on a qb. I would have to see the penalties and sacks given up, but he was in need of help a lot of the time on his side. An improved player that is still a liability is not one you want protecting Mahomes. I'm not disagreeing there are better RTs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,208 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 There's still hope for Niang. He started over Wylie in 2021 until hurt and has upside. Maybe he won't fully recover and he does have slow feet, but still a step up from this year if he does recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 They love Wylie like everybody at Norte Dame loved Rudy. West and artsy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 10 hours ago, mex said: Patrick loves Wylie. So does Andy. He ain't going anywhere. If the numbers mentioned are correct he probably packed up already. They are saying 8-10 million per year. artsy and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Didn't follow Lewan's injury history but if healthy that would be a great signing. I can see him getting a lot of incentives in a new deal that will come rather soon. In terms of OBJ I don't see much of an impact as OBJ won't be resigned until much later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,685 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 12 hours ago, jetlord said: There's still hope for Niang. He started over Wylie in 2021 until hurt and has upside. Maybe he won't fully recover and he does have slow feet, but still a step up from this year if he does recover. he'll be a $1.2M Cap hit and has played 19 games since being drafted 3 years ago. He's probably worth keeping around 1 more year and then being let go at only a $200K cap hit if he fails again to be what was hoped. IF he gets let go this year post June 1 the Chiefs are on the Hook for $780K https://overthecap.com/player/lucas-niang/8836 sith13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,685 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 5 hours ago, sith13 said: If the numbers mentioned are correct he probably packed up already. They are saying 8-10 million per year. They? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, oldtimer said: They? Heard in bunch of places. The most recent is the KCSN podcast which is the source for the number. Never thought he would be worth so much and still don't believe it but I guess "experts" see something else in him. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 hours ago, oldtimer said: he'll be a $1.2M Cap hit and has played 19 games since being drafted 3 years ago. He's probably worth keeping around 1 more year and then being let go at only a $200K cap hit if he fails again to be what was hoped. IF he gets let go this year post June 1 the Chiefs are on the Hook for $780K https://overthecap.com/player/lucas-niang/8836 I know you aren't a fan, but having a player of his caliber to step in if Wylie leaves ( please god let him leave) is a pretty big deal. He was an extremely good player in college and the Chiefs had a 2nd round grade on him. Personally I don't see a player that loves football. He opted out his rookie year and has had issues with conditioning. But there are a lot of players who don't love the game. They do it because they are good at it and it pays better than Hardees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,685 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said: I know you aren't a fan, but having a player of his caliber to step in if Wylie leaves ( please god let him leave) is a pretty big deal. He was an extremely good player in college and the Chiefs had a 2nd round grade on him. Personally I don't see a player that loves football. He opted out his rookie year and has had issues with conditioning. But there are a lot of players who don't love the game. They do it because they are good at it and it pays better than Hardees. I agree with you in the respect that Wyle in many of our eyes is not worth what some may say he might get. We all hope Veach see's the same thing. In Regards to Naing you are right I am not a fan and think his lack "love of the game" is detrimental to his performance. That being said I have to wonder how many play that dont love the game that last through training camp. It's not as if he has Bo Jackson type Athleticism and can succeed at 50%. I guess time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,208 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Didn't Niang perform pretty well for a first year player in 2021? Not saying that he's the solution at RT, but should be a cheaper upgrade over Wylie as the starter there. If the Chiefs know he won't be back 100%, they will act accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,685 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, jetlord said: Didn't Niang perform pretty well for a first year player in 2021? Not saying that he's the solution at RT, but should be a cheaper upgrade over Wylie as the starter there. If the Chiefs know he won't be back 100%, they will act accordingly. I dont know did he? Just saw a mock where a swing Tackle from Tennessee Darnell Wright is mocked to us with our first pick At 6'6" 335 he's got the size. At only $1.2M LN is too cheap to just give up on and Cap Savings are meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowhead 1,070 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Kinnard will be the starting RT. Take it to the bank. DieHard and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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