arrowhead 1,070 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Throw in CEH. Cardinals reporter Mike Jurecki reports the Cardinals "have parameters" to trade DeAndre Hopkins "more likely after free agency starts." Jurecki adds that the Cardinals are looking for a second-round pick and a conditional pick or player in return for their star wideout. Hopkins will easily be the most valuable wideout available this offseason in what has been regarded as a weak draft at the position and with only Brandin Cooks really able to challenge him on recent track record. Jurecki does not list a team, but it wouldn't be surprising if a few different teams agreed to this price and it was more about where Hopkins wanted to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Nope. Draft another receiver , stay away from expensive veterans. Lamardirts, oldtimer and Troyofoc 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,684 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Fuck that! He's not the missing piece to another SB win moons314 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boone 304 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 In a word? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 To be fair, he had some awful QBs in Houston and a midget in AZ throwing him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowhead 1,070 Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 I'd do it in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 We just let 2 high priced guys hit the market ith us nit tagging OBJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 If they want a 2nd, sounds like a 4th plus CEH would get the job done Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 CEH plus a free Xbox for the midget. But they pay 70% of his salary. West 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 No! No top 100 draft picks for an aging veteran. Hopkins is a short term addition and not worth what he's being paid. If he hits the market as a FA, take a look at a short term deal. Otherwise, pass. oldtimer, mex and dhitter 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, jetlord said: If he hits the market as a FA, take a look at a short term deal. And even then, only if he comes cheap... wanting to chase a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, mex said: And even then, only if he comes cheap... wanting to chase a ring. I'd pay him #1 WR (not elite) money for one year or a two year deal with a cheap out. Depends on who the Chiefs plan to resign or pick up in FA. They still need to draft a day two WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, jetlord said: I'd pay him #1 WR (not elite) money for one year or a two year deal with a cheap out. Depends on who the Chiefs plan to resign or pick up in FA. They still need to draft a day two WR. This assumes there are guys on the PS who aren't being considered... but there are some guys who might break out this year you never know. Honestly, I think we draft a future #1 WR. Or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, mex said: This assumes there are guys on the PS who aren't being considered... but there are some guys who might break out this year you never know. Honestly, I think we draft a future #1 WR. Or two. They'll be considered, but are long shots. Ross and Ross are both high potential, never proven players. If one or both make the team, great. But at this point it can't be counted on. Powell has had two years and can't yet make the roster. I see drafting a WR on the second day and then using one of the sixths or sevenths for a hope. Veach has done pretty well with late picks but there's only so many prospects who can be projected as #1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Alright. Let’s say Hopkins would take a reasonable salary for two years. Throw in CEH and a 3rd and we would have a wr that I believe would force defenses to account for with saftey help. I’m not for signing high priced FA but I’m trying to look at this from trotting out an offense that is different from last year. Hopkins addition would do that. It’s a thought especially if juju doesn’t sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, jetlord said: I see drafting a WR on the second day and then using one of the sixths or sevenths for a hope. That's kinda how I see it... but I wouldn't be surprised if we take a day 1 WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 If we go for broke trading up for a LT and Dhop would do 2 for 34, I could definitely see it. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, DieHard said: If we go for broke trading up for a LT and Dhop would do 2 for 34, I could definitely see it. How high could the Chiefs trade up? According to the trade charts, trading the #1 and #2 picks (31 and 63) only gets them up to 19 or 20. All the extra sixth and seventh rounds picks don't mean squat when it comes to moving up in the first round. I think there will be some good LTs later in the first. Assuming that Johnson, Skoronski, and Jones will be gone, there's still Harrison and Wright and probably others I'm not up on. Could they start day one? Maybe not so good, but until Veach reveals his plan, I don't see much choice except to get a so-so vet to fill in for a while if they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 If we are giving up picks it sure wouldn't be for a WR. Unless it's a veteran LT any picks we trade away will be used to move up for a specific LT target. Hopefully we can find some stopgaps and not worry about giving up multiple picks in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 9 hours ago, jetlord said: How high could the Chiefs trade up? According to the trade charts, trading the #1 and #2 picks (31 and 63) only gets them up to 19 or 20. All the extra sixth and seventh rounds picks don't mean squat when it comes to moving up in the first round. I think there will be some good LTs later in the first. Assuming that Johnson, Skoronski, and Jones will be gone, there's still Harrison and Wright and probably others I'm not up on. Could they start day one? Maybe not so good, but until Veach reveals his plan, I don't see much choice except to get a so-so vet to fill in for a while if they can't. Good question. We traded 27, 91 and the next years first to go from 27 to 10. I don’t see that for a LT, but maybe a 1 & 2 if they really like a guy. I really don’t it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 There will be a starting LT at 31. Keep the picks we have and let Andy/Veach work their magic. Lamardirts, sith13 and jetlord 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, DieHard said: Good question. We traded 27, 91 and the next years first to go from 27 to 10. I don’t see that for a LT, but maybe a 1 & 2 if they really like a guy. I really don’t it though. Don't see a major trade up as an option. We have some ammo but I don't think it'll make sense to move up anything more than a few spots. I'm pretty sure the staff either has an under-the-radar prospect in mind or some guy the experts rank high is actually not that high on most boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowhead 1,070 Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports DeAndre Hopkins would be "flexible on the last two years of his contract" if traded. Rapoport noted that he would not necessarily be looking for a "top-of-the-market deal." Hopkins was recently on The Pat McAfee Show and acknowledged the trade rumors, though he didn't expand much beyond that. If the Cardinals move Hopkins, they would be on the hook for a modest cap hit while his new team would take on expenditures of $19.5 million in 2023 and $14.9 million in 2024. Neither number is absurd for a player of Hopkins' talent, but only eight teams even have $20 million in space for the 2023 season as things stand right now. Hopkins has been one of the best receivers in the NFL for nearly a decade but has two playoff wins to show for his efforts. It sounds like he would be open to some form of a restructured contract or even an extension that lowers his cap hits over the next two years if it meant he was playing for a contender. That possibility opens the door for a lot of teams to make Arizona offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,684 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, arrowhead said: NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports DeAndre Hopkins would be "flexible on the last two years of his contract" if traded. Rapoport noted that he would not necessarily be looking for a "top-of-the-market deal." Hopkins was recently on The Pat McAfee Show and acknowledged the trade rumors, though he didn't expand much beyond that. If the Cardinals move Hopkins, they would be on the hook for a modest cap hit while his new team would take on expenditures of $19.5 million in 2023 and $14.9 million in 2024. Neither number is absurd for a player of Hopkins' talent, but only eight teams even have $20 million in space for the 2023 season as things stand right now. Hopkins has been one of the best receivers in the NFL for nearly a decade but has two playoff wins to show for his efforts. It sounds like he would be open to some form of a restructured contract or even an extension that lowers his cap hits over the next two years if it meant he was playing for a contender. That possibility opens the door for a lot of teams to make Arizona offers. 50% pay cut? sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: 50% pay cut? sure If we could get him for a 4th and CEH and we could make those two years for 30 I might take a swing. Neither are guaranteed so if he doesn't pan out this year we can cut him with no dead money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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