MVP Patrick Mahomes Thread

[jetlord 10,207]

It will be very difficult for the Chiefs to win five more in the next ten years.  Too much parity, too many cap issues, and too much luck factor.  It could happen, but there's a lot of solid QBs in the AFC that can challenge on any given Sunday.  My hope is that the Chiefs can do it.  My expectations are that the Chiefs are always competitive, their games are meaningful, and that they keep the talent to go deep into the playoffs every year.   If they do just that, they will win the SB several more times.  Also have to wonder how long Reid will continue coaching and how his departure will affect the team.  

[mex 65,581]

7 minutes ago, jetlord said:

It will be very difficult for the Chiefs to win five more in the next ten years.  Too much parity, too many cap issues, and too much luck factor.  It could happen, but there's a lot of solid QBs in the AFC that can challenge on any given Sunday.  My hope is that the Chiefs can do it.  My expectations are that the Chiefs are always competitive, their games are meaningful, and that they keep the talent to go deep into the playoffs every year.   If they do just that, they will win the SB several more times.  Also have to wonder how long Reid will continue coaching and how his departure will affect the team.  

Negative Nancy.

[xen 1,010,219]

2 hours ago, jetlord said:

It will be very difficult for the Chiefs to win five more in the next ten years.  Too much parity, too many cap issues, and too much luck factor.  It could happen, but there's a lot of solid QBs in the AFC that can challenge on any given Sunday.  My hope is that the Chiefs can do it.  My expectations are that the Chiefs are always competitive, their games are meaningful, and that they keep the talent to go deep into the playoffs every year.   If they do just that, they will win the SB several more times.  Also have to wonder how long Reid will continue coaching and how his departure will affect the team.  

I bet you're fun at parties.

[kccrow 529]

If you extrapolate Pat's current pace on playoff games played to the 48 that Brady played, here's what you'd get:

Brady: 48 G 35-13 W/L 1,200/1,921 ATT/COMP 62.5% 13,400 YDS 88 TD 40 INT 9 4QC 14 GWD

Mahomes: 48 G 38-10 W/L 1,207/1,793 ATT/COMP 67.3% 14,002 YDS 120 TD 24 INT 10 4QC 14 GWD

By my estimation, that's 1 more SB win.

Let's go!

 

[jetlord 10,207]

4 hours ago, mex said:

Negative Nancy.

It's a realistic outlook and astute analysis that's gotten me to where I am today.   Oops,.....never mind.  

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

2 hours ago, xen said:

I bet you're fun at parties.

 

He's right, though. As long as we can watch Mahomes, it is like getting to watch Nuryev dance.  Every game is a potential win, is interesting and fun.  We are blessed.  I think we will win a few more Super Bowls with him.  It's been a great ride and will continue to be.  I think we have our own very good coaching hierarchy.  Likely, Nagy will take over and will be a fine HC.

[dhitter 1,424]

14 hours ago, jetlord said:

It will be very difficult for the Chiefs to win five more in the next ten years.  Too much parity, too many cap issues, and too much luck factor.  It could happen, but there's a lot of solid QBs in the AFC that can challenge on any given Sunday.  My hope is that the Chiefs can do it.  My expectations are that the Chiefs are always competitive, their games are meaningful, and that they keep the talent to go deep into the playoffs every year.   If they do just that, they will win the SB several more times.  Also have to wonder how long Reid will continue coaching and how his departure will affect the team.  

The line between winning and losing is so thin at times. If Malcolm Butler doesn't make a play during the SB then Brady has one less ring. If Dee Ford isn't offsides .  Brady has one less ring. If Atlanta doesn't completely meltdown in the 2nd half... Brady has one less ring. Luck and circumstance tend to favor the elites. Let's hope it proves out with Patrick the next 10-12 years. Not that he needs luck ...but to be as talented as he is it only adds to the possibilities.

[West 6,713]

Okay....Okay...

I was with you until the Russian Dancer ....Geez.

How about we go with:

Pujols Hitting

Magic Passing

Kareem's Skyhook

Koufax or Gibson  Pitching...

 

But not the Russian prancer...

w

 

 

[jetlord 10,207]

10 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said:

 

He's right, though. As long as we can watch Mahomes, it is like getting to watch Nuryev dance.  Every game is a potential win, is interesting and fun.  We are blessed.  I think we will win a few more Super Bowls with him.  It's been a great ride and will continue to be.  I think we have our own very good coaching hierarchy.  Likely, Nagy will take over and will be a fine HC.

Thanks for the backup.  It's always nice to get support from THE HAT. 

[jetlord 10,207]

2 hours ago, dhitter said:

The line between winning and losing is so thin at times. If Malcolm Butler doesn't make a play during the SB then Brady has one less ring. If Dee Ford isn't offsides .  Brady has one less ring. If Atlanta doesn't completely meltdown in the 2nd half... Brady has one less ring. Luck and circumstance tend to favor the elites. Let's hope it proves out with Patrick the next 10-12 years. Not that he needs luck ...but to be as talented as he is it only adds to the possibilities.

Ask any Bills' fan about thin margins and mention Scott Norwood and "wide right" 32 years ago.  Still haven't won a SB after that jinx.  But you're right.  Some teams or players always find a way to make the breaks go their way.  Mahomes seems to be one of those.  As the Ford off sides and the 2021 AFCCG demonstrate, that's not always enough.  

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

2 hours ago, jetlord said:

Thanks for the backup.  It's always nice to get support from THE HAT. 

Most days, it supports me, too. But not always.

[xen 1,010,219]

The older folks are FUBAR.  Too much Chiefs related trauma for it to be washed away by what they're now witnessing.  

[kkuenn 3,597]

7 minutes ago, xen said:

The older folks are FUBAR.  Too much Chiefs related trauma for it to be washed away by what they're now witnessing.  

I have PTSD twice over. 

[xen 1,010,219]

This oughtta make you all feel better.  Direct quote when asked about his contract being surpassed so quickly.

“Yeah, I mean, it’s awesome for not only the quarterback market but for just the market of players in general. You want the salary cap to keep going up; you want players to keep getting more and more money. When I signed my deal, I knew I was going to be pretty set for life regardless of what the market kind of [did]. But you just keep playing. I mean, money is one thing, but when you get those Super Bowl rings at the end of your career, I think that’s going to be the thing that you look back upon. I think I’ve made enough money from the football field — and obviously off of it as well — that it won’t matter at the end of the day.”

- Patrick Motherfuckin' Mahomes

[azchief21 5,278]

36 minutes ago, xen said:

This oughtta make you all feel better.  Direct quote when asked about his contract being surpassed so quickly.

“Yeah, I mean, it’s awesome for not only the quarterback market but for just the market of players in general. You want the salary cap to keep going up; you want players to keep getting more and more money. When I signed my deal, I knew I was going to be pretty set for life regardless of what the market kind of [did]. But you just keep playing. I mean, money is one thing, but when you get those Super Bowl rings at the end of your career, I think that’s going to be the thing that you look back upon. I think I’ve made enough money from the football field — and obviously off of it as well — that it won’t matter at the end of the day.”

- Patrick Motherfuckin' Mahomes

The guy is just unreal. We are lucky to have him! But we paid our dues. We earned it.  

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

7 hours ago, West said:

Okay....Okay...

I was with you until the Russian Dancer ....Geez.

How about we go with:

Pujols Hitting

Magic Passing

Kareem's Skyhook

Koufax or Gibson  Pitching...

 

But not the Russian prancer...

w

 

 

The reference was because Mahomes sport involves many seconds, not one swing or one throw.  He is an acrobat.  He is a ballet dancer out there.  There is advanced and sustained finesse, not a momentary expression of power or athleticism.   But probably few readers of that post have really seen Nureyev. You have to see it to believe it.  Same with Mahomes.

[mex 65,581]

8 hours ago, jetlord said:

Ask any Bills' fan about thin margins and mention Scott Norwood and "wide right" 32 years ago.  Still haven't won a SB after that jinx.  But you're right.  Some teams or players always find a way to make the breaks go their way.  Mahomes seems to be one of those.  As the Ford off sides and the 2021 AFCCG demonstrate, that's not always enough.  

It wasn't just the offsides. Didn't the Pats win the coin toss similar to what happened to Buffalo at Arrowhead a few years later? Didn't even get to touch the ball.

[jetlord 10,207]

21 minutes ago, mex said:

It wasn't just the offsides. Didn't the Pats win the coin toss similar to what happened to Buffalo at Arrowhead a few years later? Didn't even get to touch the ball.

Yeah, that's what happened.  It just goes to show how precarious winning can be even with an elite team.  IIRC, after the 2921 season, all four divisional games were decided by a last second FG.  This past season, the Chiefs won the AFCCG and SB with FGs in the last few seconds.  My earlier post, which you so masterfully disparaged, was meant to say that the Chiefs can be the best team and still be lucky to win even a fourth of their SBs over the next few years.  This is a golden age for Chiefs fans and they should be able to enjoy the ride even without Mahomes winning more rings than Brady IF that's the way it play out. 

[mex 65,581]

14 minutes ago, jetlord said:

Yeah, that's what happened.  It just goes to show how precarious winning can be even with an elite team.  IIRC, after the 2921 season, all four divisional games were decided by a last second FG.  This past season, the Chiefs won the AFCCG and SB with FGs in the last few seconds.  My earlier post, which you so masterfully disparaged, was meant to say that the Chiefs can be the best team and still be lucky to win even a fourth of their SBs over the next few years.  This is a golden age for Chiefs fans and they should be able to enjoy the ride even without Mahomes winning more rings than Brady IF that's the way it play out. 

Don't take it too hard Jet... I don't get too many opportunities to masterfully disparage you. Gotta make hay while the sun shines. 🙂

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

3 hours ago, jetlord said:

Yeah, that's what happened.  It just goes to show how precarious winning can be even with an elite team.  IIRC, after the 2921 season, all four divisional games were decided by a last second FG.  This past season, the Chiefs won the AFCCG and SB with FGs in the last few seconds.  My earlier post, which you so masterfully disparaged, was meant to say that the Chiefs can be the best team and still be lucky to win even a fourth of their SBs over the next few years.  This is a golden age for Chiefs fans and they should be able to enjoy the ride even without Mahomes winning more rings than Brady IF that's the way it play out. 

2921?   Back to the future.  You could make a lot of money in Vegas in the meantime.

[jetlord 10,207]

1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said:

2921?   Back to the future.  You could make a lot of money in Vegas in the meantime.

Why am I not surprised that you would be the first to point that out.  🙂  That's what happens when one is too lazy to proof what one posts.  

[mex 65,581]

Let the disrespect continue.

Patrick Mahomes Named NFL's Third-Most Marketable Player by OLBG

Story by Jordan Foote • 5h ago

 

 

 

Patrick Mahomes Named NFL's Third-Most Marketable Player by OLBG© Provided by Arrowhead Report on FanNation

The NFL offseason is still in full swing, allowing NFL players to get involved with their off-the-field endeavors much more now than during the season. For Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, as well as many others, this makes for a busy time despite not having games to play every week.

As Mahomes has risen to the pinnacle of the sport and is now regarded as the best quarterback (and perhaps the best player) in the game, his following has done nothing but grow over the last five or six years. He's a household name in most cases, and his popularity rivals some of the NFL's other top superstars. OLBG recently created an index that determined the most marketable players in the league, and Mahomes took the No. 3 spot. Here's some of what OLBG's article had to say about Mahomes: 

 

Having one of the largest social media following of any active NFL star (5.6m), Mahomes scores remarkably high for audience reachability (94.3%) and also well for audience authenticity (69.24%). Combine this with the third-highest audience quality score (83/100) and a strong positive sentiment on Instagram posts (58.36%), Mahomes is likely any brand’s dream.

Thanks to his outstanding performances on the field, Mahomes has managed to sign some of the biggest deals in the NFL. Working with the likes of Bose, Oakley, State Farm, and EA, he also signed a massive 10-year deal with Adidas which resulted in him being one the highest-earning stars from off-field endorsements.

Mahomes is succeeded by San Francisco 49ers tight end George Kittle and Las Vegas Raiders wide receiver Davante Adams to round out the top five. Ahead of Mahomes were just two stars: Baltimore Ravens wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. and New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Mahomes drew praise from OLBG for his incredibly high audience reachability score (94.3%) and overall audience quality (83/100). His estimated earnings/charges per post were found to be $21,200 with an earned media value of $22.15. Explanations for each metric can be found on OLBG's homepage for the index under methodology. 

[xen 1,010,219]

JFC.  Pat is almost as likely to go have 5 TD's in a game as he is to have 0.

This is per game

 

[kkuenn 3,597]

26 minutes ago, xen said:

JFC.  Pat is almost as likely to go have 5 TD's in a game as he is to have 0.

This is per game

 

And in those games where he threw no Tds.... the first game was his very first start against Denver in a meaningless game.

2 of them he had rushing td.

His record was 5-1 in those games.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/how-many-games-has-patrick-mahomes-not-thrown-a-touchdown#:~:text=Patrick Mahomes has 6 games played with exactly 0 passing touchdowns.

 

When he throws 5 tds in a game he is also 4-0 in those 4 games played.

Throwing for 6 tds? He is 1-1.

His only loss was when we scored 51 points and lost to the Rams 54-51.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/how-many-5-td-games-does-mahomes-have

 

According to the NFL, Mahomes is already tied for fourth on the all-time list for games with five touchdown passes, matching Hall of Famer Dan Fouts and future Hall of Famer Ben Roethlisberger with six.

Mahomes needs three more games with five touchdown passes to catch Hall of Famer Peyton Manning and future Hall of Famer Tom Brady in a tie for second place, with nine. At that point, Mahomes will need only two more games with five or more touchdowns to match future Hall of Famer Drew Brees with 11.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/09/11/patrick-mahomes-has-sixth-career-game-with-five-touchdown-passes/

[Troyofoc 361]

On 5/18/2023 at 3:15 PM, xen said:

This oughtta make you all feel better.  Direct quote when asked about his contract being surpassed so quickly.

“Yeah, I mean, it’s awesome for not only the quarterback market but for just the market of players in general. You want the salary cap to keep going up; you want players to keep getting more and more money. When I signed my deal, I knew I was going to be pretty set for life regardless of what the market kind of [did]. But you just keep playing. I mean, money is one thing, but when you get those Super Bowl rings at the end of your career, I think that’s going to be the thing that you look back upon. I think I’ve made enough money from the football field — and obviously off of it as well — that it won’t matter at the end of the day.”

- Patrick Motherfuckin' Mahomes

Let’s all wait for Mike Florio to recant his bullshit story line a few weeks back.🤦🏼‍♂️