xen 1,010,220 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, arthur75 said: And I disagree. I think giving Jones a huge contract would hurt the cap in the long run with how many young players gonna be up for new contracts in the next couple years. 2 being on the offensive line. I think last proved that a will agree a small sample but I still think it proves that Jones does not make or break this team. Last night proved pressures are hard to come by without CJ. Blitzing as your strategy is fine but against QBs that can handle it, that's gonna create issues in coverage. We may or may not be fine long term depending on the development of the young pups and how Omenihu looks after a long layoff but it is concern #1a right now. Coverage can only hold up for so long without pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur75 415 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 45 minutes ago, xen said: Last night proved pressures are hard to come by without CJ. Blitzing as your strategy is fine but against QBs that can handle it, that's gonna create issues in coverage. We may or may not be fine long term depending on the development of the young pups and how Omenihu looks after a long layoff but it is concern #1a right now. Coverage can only hold up for so long without pressure. I agree. But the defense was not the problem last night, not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur75 415 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, mex said: I don't agree Burps. The WR group had a very unusual night. Yes they weren't lights out. We should have won that game without Kelce. It's not like we got totally shut down. They dropped passes, very uncharacteristic, then they handed Detroit an easy 7 that won the game. Defense was awesome against a well-coached offense. OL did good against a VERY good DL. The WRs will be fixed. Bet on it. I hope you are right. 2 things can come of this. Either the Lions just woke the sleeping Giant or they just exposed us to the NFL. Time will tell but Pat did not look happy on the podium last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 5 hours ago, arthur75 said: I hope you are right. 2 things can come of this. Either the Lions just woke the sleeping Giant or they just exposed us to the NFL. Time will tell but Pat did not look happy on the podium last night. Woke us up serving a slice of humble pie. If there was a game to lose it wad this. Nfc conference game, players were out etc. Should show us what to work on while we wait and also what post Kelce life could look like. The defense is getting more playing time as Jones sits and Omenihu waits. I think this will only strengthen us when our defense is all back. Not how you start, but rather how we finish. mex, oldtimer and KC Warpaint 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Trade jones. For some reason it irritates me having him sit with his agents up in the box. to San Francisco 49ers get Chris Jones Skyy Moore chiefs get 1st round pick Deebo Samuel Javon Kinlaw ’25 second round pick oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Palangi said: Trade jones. For some reason it irritates me having him sit with his agents up in the box. to San Francisco 49ers get Chris Jones Skyy Moore chiefs get 1st round pick Deebo Samuel Javon Kinlaw ’25 second round pick It should irritate you. He's under contract but watching the game from a suite while his teammates lay it on the line?? Fuck that dude. NCK Chiefs Fan and Palangi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Palangi said: Trade jones. For some reason it irritates me having him sit with his agents up in the box. to San Francisco 49ers get Chris Jones Skyy Moore chiefs get 1st round pick Deebo Samuel Javon Kinlaw ’25 second round pick It’s getting close to unfixable. After last night, as a teammate, I would assume a few players are questioning his commitment to the team. Palangi and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Palangi said: Trade jones. For some reason it irritates me having him sit with his agents up in the box. to San Francisco 49ers get Chris Jones Skyy Moore chiefs get 1st round pick Deebo Samuel Javon Kinlaw ’25 second round pick channeling your inner Balto? lol I guess with Purdy's Rookie deal they might afford CJ & Bosa Palangi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 3 hours ago, xen said: No cap hit and cash outlay are not treated the same. Cap hit is just accounting techniques and probably would not really enter in to the negotiation other than to guide our offer breakdown for this year. Would it be fair to say that with bonuses and everything this year, he would have taken more money than Aaron Donald? If he hadn’t got fined and held out. And do I understand correctly that if he sits out eight games, he will lose $9 million which is what the differences between the two sides right now? oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, DieHard said: Would it be fair to say that with bonuses and everything this year, he would have taken more money than Aaron Donald? If he hadn’t got fined and held out. And do I understand correctly that if he sits out eight games, he will lose $9 million which is what the differences between the two sides right now? I think it's fair to say Veach wont let CJ sit out much longer without a trade..if he does Veach is a putz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Ev said: It’s getting close to unfixable. After last night, as a teammate, I would assume a few players are questioning his commitment to the team. Thought you said he was to be traded? oldtimer and Mr Ev 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Thought you said he was to be traded? Mr Ev, DieHard and qnet 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Yeah sure doesn’t seem like it with him sitting shoulder to shoulder between his agents. I’m thinking it was more for the banner ceremony. KA hasn’t said much as of late. Usually he goes quiet once season starts. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 52 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Thought you said he was to be traded? We’ll see won’t we. I’d rather him be traded at this point. Veach has done as much as he can from what I’ve read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 3 hours ago, arthur75 said: I hope you are right. 2 things can come of this. Either the Lions just woke the sleeping Giant or they just exposed us to the NFL. Time will tell but Pat did not look happy on the podium last night. Why should he be happy. He put the ball on the button at least 4 times and they couldn’t do their job. One cost the game. Hell ya he’s not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpo The Mad Clown 5,554 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, mex said: Why should he be happy. He put the ball on the button at least 4 times and they couldn’t do their job. One cost the game. Hell ya he’s not happy. If he had less class he would use the Grbac line, saying he can’t pass it and catch it, too. mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 He’s a competitive guy. There is a little peyton manning in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccrow 529 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 My hypothetical brain is at work (for no real apparent reason other than to throw shit at the wall)... Cowboys give CeeDee Lamb, Neville Gallimore, and a 2nd round pick Chiefs give Chris Jones and Skyy Moore Would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 hours ago, kccrow said: My hypothetical brain is at work (for no real apparent reason other than to throw shit at the wall)... Cowboys give CeeDee Lamb, Neville Gallimore, and a 2nd round pick Chiefs give Chris Jones and Skyy Moore Would you? I would. I am also concerned about our tackles. Seemed to me mahomes was under pressure quite a bit but this is also a combination of receivers not getting open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 hours ago, kccrow said: My hypothetical brain is at work (for no real apparent reason other than to throw shit at the wall)... Cowboys give CeeDee Lamb, Neville Gallimore, and a 2nd round pick Chiefs give Chris Jones and Skyy Moore Would you? but would the Plowboys? I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Holmes4six! said: I would. I am also concerned about our tackles. Seemed to me mahomes was under pressure quite a bit but this is also a combination of receivers not getting open. They're no worse than the last few years... in fact I'd say better at this point in the season. Give them some time to gel. qnet, Joe_Chief and Boone 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 Anyone watching burrow and his protection? 36 yards passing in the first half. He even was pissed at obj for a hit. Garrett beat him on the outside. Plenty of pressures still amd a sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, kkuenn said: Anyone watching burrow and his protection? 36 yards passing in the first half. He even was pissed at obj for a hit. Garrett beat him on the outside. Plenty of pressures still amd a sack. The Browns are whoopin' that a$$! LOL Joe_Chief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, qnet said: The Browns are whoopin' that a$$! LOL 82 whole yards passing....lmao qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Holmes4six! said: I would. I am also concerned about our tackles. Seemed to me mahomes was under pressure quite a bit but this is also a combination of receivers not getting open. The line needs some time to gel. They will get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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