kkuenn 3,597 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said: That would be a mistake at this point, I think. ISM looked all-world against the 3's and 4's of bad defenses in the preseason. I would want to see him against the ones of good teams before making a decision like that. Is he a great athlete? Obviously. But how many great athletes have been total busts in the NFL? A lot. It takes a lot more than athleticism. While I thought the same thing, my point was more towards how they feel about the other WRs and to be able to get cap relief. He makes the most sense for cap if they feel they have good things in Sky, Rice and the return if Toney etc. We also have a good glut of CBs, just feel WR is deeper for us at this time. Fmbl2187 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Spfdchiefsfan said: MVS is not getting traded. My guess, they adjust somewhere else on the roster, and keep the ISM kid for punt returns and special teams. Eight WRs? Last season they had five, maybe six at times. Don't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Spfdchiefsfan said: MVS is not getting traded. My guess, they adjust somewhere else on the roster, and keep the ISM kid for punt returns and special teams. Eight WRs? Last season they had five, maybe six at times. Don't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 MVS isn't going anywhere. There is a lot of optimism for Moore, Rice, and Ross but until they actually do it for a full season they are question marks with high upside. Remigio is an IR stash and ISM will be traded if at all possible. Glad we have this problem though. Hopefully all three out of Moore, Rice, and Ross develop. Would be a really nice young wr corp for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Burpo The Mad Clown, Boone, KC Warpaint and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 KC Warpaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boone 304 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, mex said: What a jackwagon. Like Donkey WRs have never dropped a wide open pass. Rookie mistake, Rice will get better. mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccrow 529 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 8 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said: That would be a mistake at this point, I think. ISM looked all-world against the 3's and 4's of bad defenses in the preseason. I would want to see him against the ones of good teams before making a decision like that. Is he a great athlete? Obviously. But how many great athletes have been total busts in the NFL? A lot. It takes a lot more than athleticism. What has Watson shown that makes him a great "keep?" That's the spot we're talking about in all likelihood. ISM can work all 4 phases on special teams and is young with upside. Watson is what he is at this point. I don't know if there would be a monumental difference right now in what you're getting but the development upside is what you bank on. Yeah, sure, you flush 1.3 m down the toilet by cutting Watson but it is he worth letting ISM go for? I don't know if I'd worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 5 hours ago, mex said: Week 1. - Miles Garrett and zadruis smith. your welcome benguls mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Boone said: What a jackwagon. Like Donkey WRs have never dropped a wide open pass. Rookie mistake, Rice will get better. Andy's not worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 17 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said: That would be a mistake at this point, I think. ISM looked all-world against the 3's and 4's of bad defenses in the preseason. I would want to see him against the ones of good teams before making a decision like that. Is he a great athlete? Obviously. But how many great athletes have been total busts in the NFL? A lot. It takes a lot more than athleticism. No issue now, Smith Marsette is being traded to the Carolina Panthers for a conditional draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 11 hours ago, kccrow said: What has Watson shown that makes him a great "keep?" That's the spot we're talking about in all likelihood. ISM can work all 4 phases on special teams and is young with upside. Watson is what he is at this point. I don't know if there would be a monumental difference right now in what you're getting but the development upside is what you bank on. Yeah, sure, you flush 1.3 m down the toilet by cutting Watson but it is he worth letting ISM go for? I don't know if I'd worry about it. Problem solved. ISM to Panthers. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 16 hours ago, mex said: Also based off preseason (ranking among all players): Rice 5th in receiving yards, 3rd in catches, 1st in YAC. Neither the drops nor the stats mean jack squat. Cause it's preseason. mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpo The Mad Clown 5,555 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 16 hours ago, Boone said: What a jackwagon. Like Donkey WRs have never dropped a wide open pass. Rookie mistake, Rice will get better. Apropos of nothing, the knock on Jerry Rice was that he had too many dropped passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, xen said: Also based off preseason (ranking among all players): Rice 5th in receiving yards, 3rd in catches, 1st in YAC. Neither the drops nor the stats mean jack squat. Cause it's preseason. Imagine the fan of a team that broke the bank for average QB play, criticizing a draft pick during preseason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpo The Mad Clown 5,555 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, mex said: Imagine the fan of a team that broke the bank for average QB play, criticizing a draft pick during preseason... Imagine being a broncos fan. You’re only pleasure in preseason is watching a rookie on another team drop a few passes. And that team has beaten yours 15 times in a row. mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 So far… Traded away: WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette Cut/waived: DT Phil Hoskins DE Josh Kaindoh DT Danny Shelton S Deon Bush Acquired via trade: DT Neil Farrell Jr. Farrell is a 330 lb pound NT from LSU in his second season we got from the raiders for a 6th. worse moves to grab a big guy from LSU to bolster the d line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Shelton? Didn't see that coming Spfdchiefsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Does Shelton surprise anyone? I thought he was supposed to be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, oldtimer said: Shelton? Didn't see that coming Can cut and then put him along with Shelton on the ps and resign if we don't want them to hit waivers. I believe we can do that with both I read somewhere here was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spfdchiefsfan said: Does Shelton surprise anyone? I thought he was supposed to be good? I thought we needed a BFF next to CJ ..not fat enough I guess and a positive sign about CJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 hours ago, oldtimer said: Shelton? Didn't see that coming Actually, I did. Though he lost weight, he likely will eat his way back to ineffectiveness over the next year, at least in the off season. Size can be a good thing on many kinds of plays, but Spags system requires speed, footwork, and leadership, more than anything else. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Fmbl2187 said: Actually, I did. Though he lost weight, he likely will eat his way back to ineffectiveness over the next year, at least in the off season. Size can be a good thing on many kinds of plays, but Spags system requires speed, footwork, and leadership, more than anything else. xen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said: Actually, I did. Though he lost weight, he likely will eat his way back to ineffectiveness over the next year, at least in the off season. Size can be a good thing on many kinds of plays, but Spags system requires speed, footwork, and leadership, more than anything else. Then why is Nnadi still here? oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccrow 529 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 10 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said: Problem solved. ISM to Panthers. Major coup there... a swap of conditional 7th-round picks. Woo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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