The Preseason mega thread

[kkuenn 3,597]

1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said:

That would be a mistake at this point, I think.  ISM looked all-world against the 3's and 4's of bad defenses in the preseason.  I would want to see him against the ones of good teams before making a decision like that.  Is he a great athlete?  Obviously.  But how many great athletes have been total busts in the NFL?  A lot.  It takes a lot more than athleticism.

While I thought the same thing, my point was more towards how they feel about the other WRs and to be able to get cap relief. He makes the most sense for cap if they feel they have good things in Sky, Rice and the return if Toney etc. We also have a good glut of CBs, just feel WR is deeper for us at this time.

[jetlord 10,209]

7 hours ago, Spfdchiefsfan said:

MVS is not getting traded.  My guess, they adjust somewhere else on the roster, and keep the ISM kid for punt returns and special teams.

Eight WRs?  Last season they had five, maybe six at times.  Don't see that happening. 

[jetlord 10,209]

7 hours ago, Spfdchiefsfan said:

MVS is not getting traded.  My guess, they adjust somewhere else on the roster, and keep the ISM kid for punt returns and special teams.

Eight WRs?  Last season they had five, maybe six at times.  Don't see that happening. 

[Lamardirts 2,114]

MVS isn't going anywhere.   There is a lot of optimism for Moore, Rice, and Ross but until they actually do it for a full season they are question marks with high upside.   Remigio is an IR stash and ISM will be traded if at all possible.  Glad we have this problem though.  Hopefully all three out of Moore, Rice, and Ross develop.  Would be a really nice young wr corp for the future.

[mex 65,581]

 

[mex 65,581]

 

[Boone 304]

25 minutes ago, mex said:

 

What a jackwagon. Like Donkey WRs have never dropped a wide open pass. Rookie mistake, Rice will get better. 

[kccrow 529]

8 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said:

That would be a mistake at this point, I think.  ISM looked all-world against the 3's and 4's of bad defenses in the preseason.  I would want to see him against the ones of good teams before making a decision like that.  Is he a great athlete?  Obviously.  But how many great athletes have been total busts in the NFL?  A lot.  It takes a lot more than athleticism.

What has Watson shown that makes him a great "keep?" That's the spot we're talking about in all likelihood. ISM can work all 4 phases on special teams and is young with upside. Watson is what he is at this point. I don't know if there would be a monumental difference right now in what you're getting but the development upside is what you bank on. Yeah, sure, you flush 1.3 m down the toilet by cutting Watson but it is he worth letting ISM go for? I don't know if I'd worry about it. 

[Holmes4six! 968]

5 hours ago, mex said:

 

Week 1. - Miles Garrett and zadruis smith. 
your welcome benguls 

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

2 hours ago, Boone said:

What a jackwagon. Like Donkey WRs have never dropped a wide open pass. Rookie mistake, Rice will get better. 

Andy's not worried.

[KC Warpaint 3,234]

17 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said:

That would be a mistake at this point, I think.  ISM looked all-world against the 3's and 4's of bad defenses in the preseason.  I would want to see him against the ones of good teams before making a decision like that.  Is he a great athlete?  Obviously.  But how many great athletes have been total busts in the NFL?  A lot.  It takes a lot more than athleticism.

No issue now, Smith Marsette is being traded to the Carolina Panthers for a conditional draft pick

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

11 hours ago, kccrow said:

What has Watson shown that makes him a great "keep?" That's the spot we're talking about in all likelihood. ISM can work all 4 phases on special teams and is young with upside. Watson is what he is at this point. I don't know if there would be a monumental difference right now in what you're getting but the development upside is what you bank on. Yeah, sure, you flush 1.3 m down the toilet by cutting Watson but it is he worth letting ISM go for? I don't know if I'd worry about it. 

Problem solved.  ISM to Panthers.

[xen 1,010,220]

16 hours ago, mex said:

 

Also based off preseason (ranking among all players):

Rice 5th in receiving yards, 3rd in catches, 1st in YAC.

Neither the drops nor the stats mean jack squat.  Cause it's preseason.  

[Burpo The Mad Clown 5,555]

16 hours ago, Boone said:

What a jackwagon. Like Donkey WRs have never dropped a wide open pass. Rookie mistake, Rice will get better. 

Apropos of nothing, the knock on Jerry Rice was that he had too many dropped passes. 

[mex 65,581]

6 minutes ago, xen said:

Also based off preseason (ranking among all players):

Rice 5th in receiving yards, 3rd in catches, 1st in YAC.

Neither the drops nor the stats mean jack squat.  Cause it's preseason.  

Imagine the fan of a team that broke the bank for average QB play, criticizing a draft pick during preseason... 

[Burpo The Mad Clown 5,555]

9 minutes ago, mex said:

Imagine the fan of a team that broke the bank for average QB play, criticizing a draft pick during preseason... 

Imagine being a broncos fan. You’re only pleasure in preseason is watching a rookie on another team drop a few passes. And that team has beaten yours 15 times in a row. 

[CranjisMcbasketball 780]

So far…

Traded away:

WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette

Cut/waived:

DT Phil Hoskins

DE Josh Kaindoh

DT Danny Shelton

S Deon Bush

Acquired via trade:

DT Neil Farrell Jr.

 

 

Farrell is a 330 lb pound NT from LSU in his second season we got from the raiders for a 6th.

 

worse moves to grab a big guy from LSU to bolster the d line

[oldtimer 8,686]

Shelton? Didn't see that coming

[Spfdchiefsfan 621]

Does Shelton surprise anyone?  I thought he was supposed to be good?

[kkuenn 3,597]

Just now, oldtimer said:

Shelton? Didn't see that coming

Can cut and then put him along with Shelton on the ps and resign if we don't want them to hit waivers. I believe we can do that with both I read somewhere here was it?

[oldtimer 8,686]

2 minutes ago, Spfdchiefsfan said:

Does Shelton surprise anyone?  I thought he was supposed to be good?

I thought we needed a BFF next to CJ ..not fat enough I guess and a positive sign about CJ?

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

2 hours ago, oldtimer said:

Shelton? Didn't see that coming

Actually, I did.  Though he lost weight, he likely will eat his way back to ineffectiveness over the next year, at least in the off season.  Size can be a good thing on many kinds of plays, but Spags system requires speed, footwork, and leadership, more than anything else.

[oldtimer 8,686]

1 minute ago, Fmbl2187 said:

Actually, I did.  Though he lost weight, he likely will eat his way back to ineffectiveness over the next year, at least in the off season.  Size can be a good thing on many kinds of plays, but Spags system requires speed, footwork, and leadership, more than anything else.

[jetlord 10,209]

1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said:

Actually, I did.  Though he lost weight, he likely will eat his way back to ineffectiveness over the next year, at least in the off season.  Size can be a good thing on many kinds of plays, but Spags system requires speed, footwork, and leadership, more than anything else.

Then why is Nnadi still here? 

[kccrow 529]

10 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said:

Problem solved.  ISM to Panthers.

Major coup there... a swap of conditional 7th-round picks. Woo.