WR change

[oldtimer 8,686]

19 minutes ago, arrowhead said:

The Chiefs already have a one trick pony in Toney Made of Glass (4.37). 

MVS (4.38) that pony can't get out of the stable. 

Hardman has no route running ability. Jet sweeps and sitting on IR are his specialty.

You two are out of your minds.

 

 

so lets not ever have a speed receiver again..MVS might of run 4.37 in his undies but he runs a sub 6 in pads. Not every speedster is a Tyreek

OBTW  Hardman 4.22..4.37 is pedestrian

https://fox4kc.com/sports/chiefs/chiefs-wr-mecole-hardman-wins-40-yard-dash-race-against-nfl-stars/

[arrowhead 1,070]

The point was, speed doesn't necessarily kill. 

[Okiechief1 425]

4 hours ago, oldtimer said:

I agree  100%  he knows the playbook and is faster than anyone we have on the team

Couple things to consider

If I've read correctly currently Charles O doesnt count against the cap and when he comes back he has a cap hit of 4.49 mill.  A few weeks ago KC only had 5.2.    If both are accurate that leaves less than a mill.  

Who do you cut cause I doubt they would carry 8 when James comes off IR and he might give just as much production for almost half the cost.  

Hardman was asked about KC when he signed with the Jets and to his knowledge KC didn't even offer so if they did it was very little. They let him go and either didn't make an offer or one not worth taking.  IMO they didn't want him back and given that Veach rarely brings back guys they've let go I can't see them making any kind of move to get him.  

[mex 65,581]

41 minutes ago, Okiechief1 said:

Couple things to consider

If I've read correctly currently Charles O doesnt count against the cap and when he comes back he has a cap hit of 4.49 mill.  A few weeks ago KC only had 5.2.    If both are accurate that leaves less than a mill.  

Who do you cut cause I doubt they would carry 8 when James comes off IR and he might give just as much production for almost half the cost.  

Hardman was asked about KC when he signed with the Jets and to his knowledge KC didn't even offer so if they did it was very little. They let him go and either didn't make an offer or one not worth taking.  IMO they didn't want him back and given that Veach rarely brings back guys they've let go I can't see them making any kind of move to get him.  

If they want him, they'll figure it out. You might be right about Veach, but Andy is incredibly loyal to players.

[DieHard 2,061]

Not a Hardman guy. I feel like I seen that movie and know how it ends. Same problem as Moore. Just not on the same page with the QB. Not sure why. They both have tools. 
I think Rice is the real deal. Ross seems like an instinctive player. Watson is a baller. Always out there before anyone running before games. Home games anyway. 

[KC Warpaint 3,234]

5 hours ago, oldtimer said:

I agree  100%  he knows the playbook and is faster than anyone we have on the team

except he only goes in reverse 😁

[xen 1,010,220]

1 hour ago, Okiechief1 said:

Couple things to consider

If I've read correctly currently Charles O doesnt count against the cap and when he comes back he has a cap hit of 4.49 mill.  A few weeks ago KC only had 5.2.    If both are accurate that leaves less than a mill.  

Who do you cut cause I doubt they would carry 8 when James comes off IR and he might give just as much production for almost half the cost.  

Hardman was asked about KC when he signed with the Jets and to his knowledge KC didn't even offer so if they did it was very little. They let him go and either didn't make an offer or one not worth taking.  IMO they didn't want him back and given that Veach rarely brings back guys they've let go I can't see them making any kind of move to get him.  

Spotrac has us with over 5m in space and is including Omenihu

[KC Warpaint 3,234]

1 hour ago, xen said:

Spotrac has us with over 5m in space and is including Omenihu

this should be the last game of his suspension correct?

[Okiechief1 425]

1 hour ago, xen said:

Spotrac has us with over 5m in space and is including Omenihu

I was trying to find out if suspended players count against the cap and some of the stuff I seen said that they don't while on suspension.   Thanks for clearing that up.  

[arrowhead 1,070]

24 minutes ago, KC Warpaint said:

this should be the last game of his suspension correct?

yep. it was for 6 games.

[jetlord 10,209]

48 minutes ago, arrowhead said:

yep. it was for 6 games.

So can he return to the team on Friday or whenever they next meet?  It will take some time for him to get up to speed one would assume. 

[arrowhead 1,070]

10 minutes ago, jetlord said:

So can he return to the team on Friday or whenever they next meet?  It will take some time for him to get up to speed one would assume. 

I believe he can return at the conclusion of tomorrow's game and be eligible to play against the Chargers. Yeah, hopefully Spags can get him up to speed quickly. I'd think he's stayed in shape, although not game shape.

[kkuenn 3,597]

1 hour ago, arrowhead said:

I believe he can return at the conclusion of tomorrow's game and be eligible to play against the Chargers. Yeah, hopefully Spags can get him up to speed quickly. I'd think he's stayed in shape, although not game shape.

Friday the 13th after nfl transactions come out he can be eligible. They will have an exemption for time to make a move to get someone cut to make room for him. 

[xen 1,010,220]

It's Andy.  You know he'll ease him in over a few games.  Wouldn't expect a ton of snaps.

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

18 hours ago, mex said:

I don't think anyone's saying he'll be the best FA pickup in recent history, but IMO he makes us better. He's got top-tier speed defenses have to respect, he knows Patrick (and equally important, Patrick knows him) he knows our playbook and he can contribute right away. 

Exactly.  If they have to respect him due to his other trick, the jet sweep, he would also stretch laterally the front seven of the defense.  That would make Pacheco even more threatening.  I think getting Hardman back would have a lot of benefits.

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

11 hours ago, arrowhead said:

I believe he can return at the conclusion of tomorrow's game and be eligible to play against the Chargers. Yeah, hopefully Spags can get him up to speed quickly. I'd think he's stayed in shape, although not game shape.

At least he got the entire camp and a ton of snaps in camp.  There won't be a learning curve.

[xen 1,010,220]

 

[Calichief 3,016]

3 for 15 from the WR tonight in the first half. Stellar. 

[Palangi 788]

Veech  needs to pull a Billy Beane from moneyball and just trade MVS and Skyy. Then Reid can’t keep running them out there.  Take the option away from Reid. 

[KC Warpaint 3,234]

i did not hear Ross Name at all last night

[mex 65,581]

10 hours ago, xen said:

 

Dude was savage… never seen that before on a game telecast.

[oldtimer 8,686]

11 hours ago, xen said:

 

[KC Warpaint 3,234]

45 minutes ago, mex said:

Dude was savage… never seen that before on a game telecast.

seriously , don't F**k with Steve Smith...

That was Awesome

[Lamardirts 2,114]

That jet sweep isn't remotely effective with Moore and Toney.  While both are stop watch fast none of them can even get to the corner like Hardman or Hill.  Takes them to long and they end up losing yardage most of the time.   

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

39 minutes ago, Lamardirts said:

That jet sweep isn't remotely effective with Moore and Toney.  While both are stop watch fast none of them can even get to the corner like Hardman or Hill.  Takes them to long and they end up losing yardage most of the time.   

You're not looking at the whole picture.  When the D is stacking the middle to stop the run, you have to keep them honest and spread them out a bit as a precaution for that.  An occasional wasted down is not always actually wasted. It just isn't obvious.  It is often strategic.