KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Glad we did not pay big money for any of these Players: Randy Gregory, 30, signed a five-year, $70 million contract in March 2022. His $14 million base salary this season and another $5 million next season are fully guaranteed. (Getting Released by Denver) C.J. Jackson signed a five-year, $82.5 million deal with the Chargers last offseason after four seasons with the Patriots. (Got Traded back to New England) Chandler Jones signed a three-year, $51 million contract in 2022 with the Las Vegas Raiders (Released after getting arrested) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCK Chiefs Fan 425 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 I am not the contract guru that some of you guys are so I ask are those contracts still guaranteed after being released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, NCK Chiefs Fan said: I am not the contract guru that some of you guys are so I ask are those contracts still guaranteed after being released? Entirely depends on the contract. Usually it's just earned and paid bonuses. If they have salary guarantees it's usually just for injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCK Chiefs Fan 425 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 thanks for the info xen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, NCK Chiefs Fan said: I am not the contract guru that some of you guys are so I ask are those contracts still guaranteed after being released? Chargers paying a good chunk for the trade and then New Englamd picks up the remainder of it. Gregory, 30, signed a five-year, $70 million contract in March 2022. His $14 million base salary this season and another $5 million next season are fully guaranteed, according to the Roster Management System. The total hit of $22.4 million is the largest dead money cap hit for a defensive player in NFL history, according to Zach Segars of Let's Talk Broncos. Denver will have a net savings of $9.8 million worth of cap space in 2024, and Gregory won't be owed anything from the team in 2025. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, kkuenn said: Chargers paying a good chunk for the trade and then New Englamd picks up the remainder of it. Gregory, 30, signed a five-year, $70 million contract in March 2022. His $14 million base salary this season and another $5 million next season are fully guaranteed, according to the Roster Management System. The total hit of $22.4 million is the largest dead money cap hit for a defensive player in NFL history, according to Zach Segars of Let's Talk Broncos. Denver will have a net savings of $9.8 million worth of cap space in 2024, and Gregory won't be owed anything from the team in 2025. Umm, Gregory is being released, not traded. I think you are thinking of JC Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Spfdchiefsfan said: Umm, Gregory is being released, not traded. I think you are thinking of JC Jackson. Yeah, Jackson who I did not say in the first paragraph, then on to Gregory and finally Jones. I was doing all 3, just did not say Jackson but assumed one would know as it is the Chargers, NE trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 6 hours ago, NCK Chiefs Fan said: I am not the contract guru that some of you guys are so I ask are those contracts still guaranteed after being released? i think Gregory's is fully guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, KC Warpaint said: i think Gregory's is fully guaranteed See my post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 9 hours ago, kkuenn said: See my post above. see my post above yours 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Concurring on "Veach is pretty smart".... As a reminder, my buddy from Stanford is the 49er's Cap Expert. He rates Veach as one of the top 3 GM's in the game. His words (from my memory) "Veach is young, energetic, uses all sorts of leading statistical metrics, leans on the Coaches and builds professional rapport with players" In other words, he does the whole job and does it well. We are very lucky he is the GM. w ATLchief and Boone 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Or we just didn’t have the cap space to afford them. I wouldn’t go as far as to say he’s so smart blah blah blah. bamaroyal and KC Warpaint 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mr Ev said: Or we just didn’t have the cap space to afford them. I wouldn’t go as far as to say he’s so smart blah blah blah. that's fine, nobody cares about your opinion anyway Joe_Chief, Spfdchiefsfan and Mr Ev 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 4 hours ago, KC Warpaint said: see my post above yours 😁 It is not fully guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, KC Warpaint said: that's fine, nobody cares about your opinion anyway Yet, you reply. So easy. lol. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ev 332 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I’m just messing. Veach is always a step ahead it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccrow 529 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Chargers really ate some shit on that trade. His original 5-year deal had a 25 m signing bonus. The Chargers converted 7.8m of his remaining salary this season to a signing bonus to make the trade. So 15 + 5.85 = 20.85 accelerates onto next year's cap. They eat another 1.95 on this year's cap. All that to gain a 6th for a 7th and JC. They must really hate JC in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 all of this speaks to how desperately the rest of the AFC West teams are looking for any way to try to close the gap between their teams and the chiefs they have failed miserably so far qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, KC Warpaint said: all of this speaks to how desperately the rest of the AFC West teams are looking for any way to try to close the gap between their teams and the chiefs they have failed miserably so far Aren't all teams desperate to improve? The careers of management, coaches, and staff depend on it. The Chiefs have won a series of divisional titles plus SB wins and we're still seeking that stud WR that will make them better. Sometimes taking a FA shot works, more often it doesn't. Success comes from drafting really well and coaching up the talent. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Gregory now traded to the 49ers. Broncos pay 10 mil this year and give a 7th for a 49ers 6th. Mr Ev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Niners are a force.... Glad they are in the NFC. w mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 38 minutes ago, West said: Niners are a force.... Glad they are in the NFC. w They were a force in 2019. Fmbl2187 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 2:01 PM, KC Warpaint said: Glad we did not pawhay big money for any of these Players: Randy Gregory, 30, signed a five-year, $70 million contract in March 2022. His $14 million base salary this season and another $5 million next season are fully guaranteed. (Getting Released by Denver) C.J. Jackson signed a five-year, $82.5 million deal with the Chargers last offseason after four seasons with the Patriots. (Got Traded back to New England) Chandler Jones signed a three-year, $51 million contract in 2022 with the Las Vegas Raiders (Released after getting arrested) a Sometimes it is what you DON'T do the makes you a winner. West and KC Warpaint 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 On 10/6/2023 at 4:23 PM, kkuenn said: Gregory now traded to the 49ers. Broncos pay 10 mil this year and give a 7th for a 49ers 6th. Wow. What a deal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Broncos are a disaster...This is not the week for them to "figure things out". w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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