Free agent talk rumors

[jetlord 10,207]

39 minutes ago, Boone said:

Yeah, no chance he'd get $15 million from KC.

Rice, Brown, Watson, high draft pick, Moore, and Ross/Toney/PS guy are light years ahead of where the Chiefs started last season.  If they don't get another FA WR, they'll be good anyway.

[xen 1,010,219]

1 hour ago, kkuenn said:

Mike Williams signs with Jets for 1 year up to 15 million in pay.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39766844/source-jets-adding-ex-chargers-wr-mike-williams

 

Up to...  wonder what he really got. 

[West 6,713]

Good question...

Other question: Will Rogers stay healthy?

 

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

19 minutes ago, West said:

Good question...

Other question: Will Rogers stay healthy?

 

Physically.

[CranjisMcbasketball 780]

Other teams in the league are giving out the dumbest contracts to average players, meanwhile mike danna didn’t cash in, who is a young, versatile, ascending player. Makes no sense to me

[jetlord 10,207]

1 hour ago, CranjisMcbasketball said:

Other teams in the league are giving out the dumbest contracts to average players, meanwhile mike danna didn’t cash in, who is a young, versatile, ascending player. Makes no sense to me

Maybe he waiting to return to the Chiefs after they clear some cap space? 

[West 6,713]

I think he would be welcomed back if he is reasonable.  based on the fact no one is throwing a bag of cash at him....it might happen. 

[Boone 304]

43 minutes ago, West said:

I think he would be welcomed back if he is reasonable.  based on the fact no one is throwing a bag of cash at him....it might happen. 

Could also have a deal in place that won't be signed until after free agents no longer count against the comp pick formula.  That is typically the Monday or Tuesday after the draft, not sure what the 2024 date actually is.

[jetlord 10,207]

17 minutes ago, Boone said:

Could also have a deal in place that won't be signed until after free agents no longer count against the comp pick formula.  That is typically the Monday or Tuesday after the draft, not sure what the 2024 date actually is.

Does resigning ones own FA count against the comp picks?  Didn't know that.  But your point is valid.  Veach will comb the scrap heaps after that date to fill the roster with cheap vets.  He loves draft capital.    

[kkuenn 3,597]

46 minutes ago, jetlord said:

Does resigning ones own FA count against the comp picks?  Didn't know that.  But your point is valid.  Veach will comb the scrap heaps after that date to fill the roster with cheap vets.  He loves draft capital.    

No, resigning your own does not count against the formula. 

 

 

Clubs that lose to other Clubs a greater number of CFAs than they sign or acquire from other Clubs shall be eligible to receive a Compensatory Draft Selection in the College Draft to be held in the following League Year subject to the provisions set forth below.

[jetlord 10,207]

45 minutes ago, kkuenn said:

No, resigning your own does not count against the formula. 

 

 

Clubs that lose to other Clubs a greater number of CFAs than they sign or acquire from other Clubs shall be eligible to receive a Compensatory Draft Selection in the College Draft to be held in the following League Year subject to the provisions set forth below.

Got it.  But there's a date, sometime after the draft where signing FAs no longer counts against comp picks.  Just wondering what that date is.  

[kkuenn 3,597]

14 minutes ago, jetlord said:

Got it.  But there's a date, sometime after the draft where signing FAs no longer counts against comp picks.  Just wondering what that date is.  

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FEBRUARY 13^th – As of today, teams are allowed to start releasing players without any repercussion on the 2022 Salary Cap. So, teams are now able to start making moves with the aim of improving their Salary Cap for 2023. All veteran players with more than four (4) accrued seasons are immediately free agents and not subject to waivers. All non-vested veterans (i.e. less than four (4) accrued seasons) are subject to waivers. If they clear waivers, they immediately become free agents and are free to sign a contract at any time (even if before March 15th).

With the new league year set to commence on March 15^th, expect the Ravens (and most teams) to start making moves at some point in early March.

FEBRUARY 28^TH – MARCH 6^th – NFL Draft Combine.

LATE FEBRUARY/EARLY MARCH – The date that the NFL has announcement the list of Compensatory Draft picks have varied over the years from the Friday of the NFL Combine to more recently, just before the new league year (March 10^th in 2020 and 2021 and March 15^th in 2022). Unfortunately, for the Ravens this date isn’t important in 2023 as, for the first time since 2010, the Ravens are not expected to receive any Comp picks this year.

FEBRUARY 21^st – MARCH 7^th – As of February 21^st, teams can begin designating pending Unrestricted Free Agents (UFAs) with the Franchise or Transition Tag. If a team wants to use either Tag, they must do so by 4:00 pm on Tuesday, March 7^th.

(LAMAR.)

MARCH 13^th – The “legal tampering” window opens. As of March 13^th at Noon, teams and pending UFAs can start discussing contract offers and terms with potential free agents, though a contract cannot be agreed upon (*wink-wink*) until March 15^th.

MARCH 15^th – At 4:00 pm on Wednesday, March 15^th, the 2023 league year begins:

• Teams must have submitted tender offers to all of their Restricted Free Agents (RFAs) and Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFAs) who they want to retain.
• Teams must exercise all 2023 contract options tied to the first day of the league year.
• Free agency begins for Unrestricted Free Agents (UFAs) and Restricted Free Agents (RFAs)
• The trading period begins.  Any trades agreed to before this date can now be officially consummated.
• All teams must be under the Salary Cap and the Rule of 51 Cap computation begins.

 

The 2023 Salary Cap has officially been set at $224.8M. The Ravens presently have around 27.7M in Cap space. This number will obviously change between now and March 15^th as the Ravens make other moves – RFA tenders, signing, re-signings, restructures and/or contract extensions – aimed at creating additional Cap space.

MARCH 19th  – 5^th Day of League Year – if on the Ravens’ roster at 4:00 pm on March 19th, the following contract triggers hit:

• PK Justin Tucker’s 2023 $1.25M base salary becomes fully guaranteed.
• S Chuck Clark’s $1.161M Roster Bonus is due.
• DT Calais Campbell’s $2M Roster Bonus is due.
• $3.15M of CB Marlon Humphries’ $10.5M 2023 base salary becomes fully guaranteed.
• S Marcus Williams’ $1.08M 2023 base salary becomes fully guaranteed.
• S Marcus Williams’ 2026 Option Year exercised.

APRIL 21^st – The deadline for teams to sign RFAs to an offer sheet. If another team signs a RFA to an offer sheet, the player’s present team has five days to match that offer or potentially (depending on the tender given to the play) receive draft pick compensation if they decline to match. With the draft starting on April 28^th, the deadline to sign a player to an offer sheet and allow for the required five-day match period is April 21^st.

ARPIL 27^th-29^th – The NFL Draft, to be held in Las Vegas this year.

The Ravens will have the 23^rd overall pick in the first round (though will pick 22^nd due to the Dolphins forfeiting the 21^st overall pick) and are expected to only have five total picks in the 2023 draft. They presently have their 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th Round picks. The Ravens traded their own 2nd and New England’s 5th (acquired in the 2022 trade of CB Shaun Wade) to Chicago for LB Roquan Smith and also traded their 7th as part of the 2022 trade of G Ben Bredeson to the New Your Giants.

MAY 1^st – May 1^st is the CBA-mandated date (Monday after the NFL draft) by which 5^th Year Options must be exercised for 4^th year players who were drafted in the 1^st round. For the Ravens, this would be the deadline to exercise the 5^th Year Option for LB Patrick Queen. Recently, General Manager Eric DeCosta was non-committal about Queen’s option, but the expectation is that the Ravens will exercise the option to keep Queen for the 2024 season.

 

MAY 1^st – The “May 1^st Tender” date. This date, which was moved forward from June 1^st a couple of years ago, is essentially the last date that the signing or losing of a free agent will count toward the Compensatory Draft pick calculation. The May 1^st Tender is also a way a team can potentially obtain exclusive negotiating rights with a player later in the summer (after July 22^nd). It also provides extended Comp pick eligibility if the player is tendered a contract of at least 110% of his prior year’s compensation by May 1^st.  Otherwise, if the player is not given the Tender, he no longer counts toward the Comp pick formula and the team does not gain any special negotiating advantage later in the off season.

[jetlord 10,207]

Drat!  Should have scrolled to the bottom before reading that whole thing.  🙂

Thanks, Kuenn.  I assume those date are close to what they are this year.  

[kkuenn 3,597]

12 minutes ago, jetlord said:

Drat!  Should have scrolled to the bottom before reading that whole thing.  🙂

Thanks, Kuenn.  I assume those date are close to what they are this year.  

I think it is this date every year from what I read.  Either way it is soon after the draft is completed. Which is good for team cuts and such for us.

[Spfdchiefsfan 621]

Looks like Mike Edwards signed with Buffalo.

[kkuenn 3,597]

1 hour ago, Spfdchiefsfan said:

Looks like Mike Edwards signed with Buffalo.

Can't keep them all but we are still solid at S.

[KC Warpaint 3,234]

2 hours ago, Spfdchiefsfan said:

Looks like Mike Edwards signed with Buffalo.

wonder what they will try to get from him regarding defensive plays etc

[Lamardirts 2,114]

8 hours ago, Spfdchiefsfan said:

Looks like Mike Edwards signed with Buffalo.

Not gonna lie, wasn't all that upset.  Mike was a good FA signing but he and Bolton got picked on a lot down the stretch.  

[jetlord 10,207]

14 minutes ago, Lamardirts said:

Not gonna lie, wasn't all that upset.  Mike was a good FA signing but he and Bolton got picked on a lot down the stretch.  

If Cook can come back 100%, Edwards isn't needed all that much.  Reid, Conner, and Cook can take care of it. 

[kkuenn 3,597]

With the Sneed trade who do we go after? Mekhi Becton would be a guy that can play both sides. He is really athletic. Or do we feel a S on a one year deal? Campbell is out there for DT still and could be cheap 1 year along with Austin Johnson or even Tart.

Tart would need to fix his attitude though, but is only 24. Finally, any other vet WR? Boyd, Gallup, Chark or Robinson? All this would shore up depth and allow the drafted players to ease into it. Then use the rest to extend our FA for next year.

[jetlord 10,207]

23 minutes ago, kkuenn said:

With the Sneed trade who do we go after? Mekhi Becton would be a guy that can play both sides. He is really athletic. Or do we feel a S on a one year deal? Campbell is out there for DT still and could be cheap 1 year along with Austin Johnson or even Tart.

Tart would need to fix his attitude though, but is only 24. Finally, any other vet WR? Boyd, Gallup, Chark or Robinson? All this would shore up depth and allow the drafted players to ease into it. Then use the rest to extend our FA for next year.

Seems that the Chiefs need to replace Omenihu, Danna, Sneed, Allegretti, and D. Smith along with back up QB and RBs.  If they can sign Danna back and FAU steps up, that's a big start.  The Sneed replacement may already be on the roster or IR although it will be a step down.  The Chiefs can draft an IOL to replace Allegretti and hopefully take over if they can't sign T. Smith next year or lose Thuney.  Hope they find a vet FA at LT and draft a long term one.  Lots of options and another $20 million to work with.  

[kkuenn 3,597]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39815804/sources-steelers-sign-ex-falcons-rb-cordarrelle-patterson

 

There goes one of the better KR on the market. Steelers jumping on him with the new kickoff rules in effect.

[kkuenn 3,597]

Josh Reynolds to the Broncos. 2 years 14 mil.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39821068/source-broncos-signing-ex-lions-wr-josh-reynolds-2-year-deal

 

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

3 hours ago, kkuenn said:

Josh Reynolds to the Broncos. 2 years 14 mil.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39821068/source-broncos-signing-ex-lions-wr-josh-reynolds-2-year-deal

 

Overpaid.  Pretty pedestrian.  Has the dropsies.

[Fmbl2187 2,279]

On 3/22/2024 at 11:10 PM, jetlord said:

Seems that the Chiefs need to replace Omenihu, Danna, Sneed, Allegretti, and D. Smith along with back up QB and RBs.  If they can sign Danna back and FAU steps up, that's a big start.  The Sneed replacement may already be on the roster or IR although it will be a step down.  The Chiefs can draft an IOL to replace Allegretti and hopefully take over if they can't sign T. Smith next year or lose Thuney.  Hope they find a vet FA at LT and draft a long term one.  Lots of options and another $20 million to work with.  

Sounds like a good plan, but a long-term high quality prospect at LT probably just as wise. We need an experienced jouneyman at backup QB.  I don't have any confidence in Gabbert at all. I'd love to see Nick Foles back. Isn't he a FA? And he knows our system.