Lamardirts 2,114 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 10 hours ago, xen said: I see these types of opinions a lot. Coach x can't coach x position. How do we know? People said the same thing about Andy Heck and he's one of the better Oline coaches in the league. People were calling for his head. And then he got better players and all of a sudden he could coach again. How do we know? His entire unit outside of Rice regressed leaps and bounds last year. That is statistically not good for him. Sure one or two guys could regress for a various list of reasons but the entire unit? You are right that adding talent definitely helps but a whole lot more got invested in that side of the ball than the secondary and yet Merritt develops those guys. I'll give him some time, shoot, we won the sb with those scrubs at wr but with Mahomes salary and the roster construction we need a guy who can develop guys into the players that fit this scheme. Hoping the addition of Brown and Worthy will help that out. Also, I don't recall Andy Heck ever having an entire Oline regress in a season. You may be right, but its a fact Andy rotates guys around to areas that aren't their specialty to get them experience as is his prerogative. Dude is top 5 all time and moving up fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 13 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: How do we know? His entire unit outside of Rice regressed leaps and bounds last year. That is statistically not good for him. Sure one or two guys could regress for a various list of reasons but the entire unit? You are right that adding talent definitely helps but a whole lot more got invested in that side of the ball than the secondary and yet Merritt develops those guys. I'll give him some time, shoot, we won the sb with those scrubs at wr but with Mahomes salary and the roster construction we need a guy who can develop guys into the players that fit this scheme. Hoping the addition of Brown and Worthy will help that out. Also, I don't recall Andy Heck ever having an entire Oline regress in a season. You may be right, but its a fact Andy rotates guys around to areas that aren't their specialty to get them experience as is his prerogative. Dude is top 5 all time and moving up fast. Well to be fair, what WR was any good at all? Can't fault him for having Sky Moore be a total bust. Toney being a mental case etc. The guys we thought would be good just fucking sucked. Not much can be done with any of them. I would be surprised if any of them are in the tram after this year. We need them now for depth if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Andy’s fingers run pretty darn fast to the nuggies. Don’t discount coach from this conversation. oldtimer and West 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,683 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 14 hours ago, jetlord said: Yep. That filled Arrowhead and made football fun again in KC. Before that, one could pick up tickets on game day outside the stadium for half price and carry on a conversation in normal voice during the game. Neil Smith and Derrick made the place come alive after all those bad years. or just park your car at a Milgrams and you'd find free tickets wedged under your windshield wipers when you come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,661 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 One time, Lamar and Norma Hunt came to my home town with a bunch buses and armed wranglers and forced people to go to a game against their will. We reported it to the cops but you know how that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 minutes ago, reesebobby said: One time, Lamar and Norma Hunt came to my home town with a bunch buses and armed wranglers and forced people to go to a game against their will. We reported it to the cops but you know how that goes. Was that in the Frank Gansz or Paul Wiggins years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,661 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 21 minutes ago, jetlord said: Was that in the Frank Gansz or Paul Wiggins years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, jetlord said: Was that in the Frank Gansz or Paul Wiggins years? does it matter? They all blended into one bad season after another. only bright spot was the WC game under Mackovic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 44 minutes ago, KC Warpaint said: does it matter? They all blended into one bad season after another. only bright spot was the WC game under Mackovic Did any coach between Stram and Marty have a winning record? Those were really dark years. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,661 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 16 minutes ago, jetlord said: Did any coach between Stram and Marty have a winning record? Those were really dark years. Sadly, Gunther Cunningham has the 5th best winning percentage of all our coaches. Behind Reid, Stram, Marty and Vermeil. oldtimer and West 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 20 hours ago, kkuenn said: Well to be fair, what WR was any good at all? Can't fault him for having Sky Moore be a total bust. Toney being a mental case etc. The guys we thought would be good just fucking sucked. Not much can be done with any of them. I would be surprised if any of them are in the tram after this year. We need them now for depth if anything. This is a possibility for sure. Time will tell and I sure ain't going to lose any sleep over it one way or another. Just wasn't great that the whole unit sucked outside of a rookie and this his disastrous presser, which could have been a guy nervous in front of cameras and nothing more. No excuses this year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,580 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 10 hours ago, jetlord said: Was that in the Frank Gansz or Paul Wiggins years? During the Ganz years, someone broke into my pickup truck and left 4 season tickets. oldtimer and West 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,580 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 7 hours ago, jetlord said: Did any coach between Stram and Marty have a winning record? Those were really dark years. It all started with Ben Davidson spearing Lenny the Cool. All downhill from there. Fuck them raiders. Joe_Chief and West 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 fastest recorded on field speed, of the last 5 years.. goes to the rugby guy.. not cheetah, not the guy wwho ran the fastest combine 40... but to the rugby guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,218 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 5 hours ago, robgar said: fastest recorded on field speed, of the last 5 years.. goes to the rugby guy.. not cheetah, not the guy wwho ran the fastest combine 40... but to the rugby guy... Sure in mph. I'll take the 4.21 in a foot race. You gotta get to top speed before you can hit the top mph. We've seen l9ng striders (hell MVS the last few years) amd their limitations. Plus Worthy is no slouch in mph either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 i am not taking anything awayy from worthy.. just questioning the 40 time for the rugby guy.... when on field speed doesnt match recorded times.. what you do anyway its a much better discussion than we had last year... my friend.. now instead of wondering who could get open... we have 3 sub 4.3 wr''s.. and a pair of 4.3 or therabouts running backs... ... and what could turn out to be one hell of a pair of tightends.. speed threats at every level.. and I like that. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,661 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Bolt had some serious tools for a wide receiver. 6' 5" 210 pounds and fast AF. Wonder what might have been if he'd played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Bob Hayes made a pretty good transition from Olympic sprinter to NFL receiver. Don't know his history of earlier football though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 highschool, and colllege footbball... did quite well.. for the era, and the place.. with all the garbbage they had to go through back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefThunder 153 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 On 6/17/2024 at 7:46 AM, robgar said: i am not taking anything awayy from worthy.. just questioning the 40 time for the rugby guy.... when on field speed doesnt match recorded times.. what you do anyway its a much better discussion than we had last year... my friend.. now instead of wondering who could get open... we have 3 sub 4.3 wr''s.. and a pair of 4.3 or therabouts running backs... ... and what could turn out to be one hell of a pair of tightends.. speed threats at every level.. and I like that. we 2 sub 4.3 WRS. i don't count Hardman's 4.22, which was hand time. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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