artsy 1,137 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I think that's why they drafted Conley too. They have familiarity with each other from their Georgia days. Yep. And quite frankly, I'd like to see Murray on the field sooner, rather than later. I'm done with AS11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Yep. And quite frankly, I'd like to see Murray on the field sooner, rather than later. I'm done with AS11. Most of are. He needs everything to be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Most of are. He needs everything to be perfect. Almost sounds like the days of Cassel, doesn't it. One thing I haven't quite figured out yet is if Alex doesn't go deep because Andy tells him not to, or if AS11 just won't go deep for whatever reason.. Whatever the case, I really would like to see Andy hand over the playcalling to Pederson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Most of are. He needs everything to be perfect. Look, I'm down on Smith, too, but this is an exaggeration. Perfect is not even close to what we have and we have mostly been winning without it. Not against top teams this year, but it's worked before against Seattle and New England and he performed against the Colts without perfection (Charles was out). We need something more from nearly everyone - no fumbled from Charles (or just one) - not asking for perfection. And while some of the sacks were on Smith this game, he does need better protection. Not perfect protection. Good defense at the end of games, like against Seattle. They won't need to if we improve on offense. Either way, not asking for perfection. Smith might not be good enough, I just dislike people saying he needs elite everywhere or perfection. He needs what every non-great QBs need and some great QBs have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 People aren't demanding perfection. He needs to take over the offense already and at least challenge the secondary enough to keep a Defense honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 People aren't demanding perfection. He needs to take over the offense already and at least challenge the secondary enough to keep a Defense honest. I'll give you that. I just dislike that sentence that he needs perfection. He just needs more than he has. That might be more than other QBs, it might be the same as some others, but it's not perfection. I hate absolutes like can't, never, always, perfect, worst, best, etc. It's almost always more like rarely, regularly, inconsistent, among the worst, among the best, needy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 By this point in his career I want to see him fit the ball in tight windows and have the ability to lead a Defender away with his eyes and throw his guy open. If he could do at least some of the things mentioned, he would be at least good. He isn't and is actually declining play wise when he should be at his peak with his big contract. I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Bil my apologies from earlier posts. Please don't take offense but I had you confused with Oldtimer(Oldtimer no offense towards you either you also was right and I was wrong my friend) you are an optimist Bil and I am too, I think we can win at Cinncy but its not going to be easy. We owe the Bengals for ruining our 9-0 start with Trent Green years ago. No offense taken. Nothing on a football forum can offend me. In fact, at my age, I almost can only offend myself Anyway, I was at every home game in 1969 when we won our only Super Bowl. After that, the organization went on cruise control, the GM was only interested in getting laid and going to parties, and Lamar was seriously only interested in building Worlds of Fun and making it a success. So the team went totally to hell. We have had a couple of good periods since that original GM was kicked out, with Marty and with Vermeil and the great running backs and, of course Derrick Thomas. But the fans have kind of demanded quick fixes from the organization, and there is no way to build a perennial contender with quick fixes. I really believe that Dorsey and Reid are doing it the right way and are quite close, except for that franchise QB. Who knows? Maybe Murray will turn out to be special, or Bray. Anyway, I am not ready to give up this year. Winning the whole shebang is not why I like to follow NFL football. I like seeing us perform well 8 to 12 times per year and get all excited. I am too old to put my eggs in a Super Bowl basket and become a basket CASE. I think things will come together this year for maybe a playoff spot if all goes well. All of the drastic challenges are coming early, and the team will be battle tested. The Chiefs are going to ambush some really good teams, so everyone ought to chill. If that is being too much an optimist, then so be it, but when it comes to playing against the current GREAT teams, I choose a bit of realistic pessimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 People aren't demanding perfection. He needs to take over the offense already and at least challenge the secondary enough to keep a Defense honest. If two Jamaal Charles fumbles don't happen or the Chiefs defense makes a final stop on the Broncos' last drive in week two, the Chiefs are 2-1 at worst, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. Smith is paying the price for the sins of others. It comes with being quarterback. It doesn't make the unrealistic expectations of armchair quarterbacks any more legitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Yes they do....the approach works but you need consistency in the line. We have too many guys on the O-line trying to figure it out "on the fly" and we suffer early in the season. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 If two Jamaal Charles fumbles don't happen or the Chiefs defense makes a final stop on the Broncos' last drive in week two, the Chiefs are 2-1 at worst, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. Smith is paying the price for the sins of others. It comes with being quarterback. It doesn't make the unrealistic expectations of armchair quarterbacks any more legitimate. You're out of touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Smith is a key part of the team. The Team is 1-2. He is as much to blame as anyone. One thing to add, Our defense did not do their part against the pack. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 oline is pathetic no excuses Dorsey Sucks....we are 3 years in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I expected Rodgers to shred our D. He shreds everyones D. What I didn't expect was the inept, same old offense that Reid rolled out there. He HAS to learn to adjust, or hand the controls over to Childress or Pederson. Even on the road they should have had more success against a defense that has a lot of holes. Pederson called the plays during preseason, when they actually looked like an NFL offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 If two Jamaal Charles fumbles don't happen or the Chiefs defense makes a final stop on the Broncos' last drive in week two, the Chiefs are 2-1 at worst, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. Smith is paying the price for the sins of others. It comes with being quarterback. It doesn't make the unrealistic expectations of armchair quarterbacks any more legitimate. You're sadly mistaken, this conversation still takes place. The fumbles were inexcusable, but yeah he wasn't the only turnover machine. Even atb2-1, Alex Smith sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 You're sadly mistaken, this conversation still takes place. The fumbles were inexcusable, but yeah he wasn't the only turnover machine. Even atb2-1, Alex Smith sucks. No, he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 To be fair, I talked shit on Cassel during 2010 when he had his best year. Winning records don't excuse bad play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Time to revisit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Time to revisit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoStud 3,253 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Time to revisit. Time to revisit. I don't know how or why you REAL KC fans on this board even engage this little shit. He literally quit the Chiefs this season to become a Chargers fan early on, then when the Chiefs got hot and the Chargers fell apart he quietly became a Chiefs fan again, now he's all over the place posting happy posts about the Chiefs. The absolute worst kind of fan and worst of all he's enjoying KC success now that they are good again. DERP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Ahhh, Studs. Don't get yourself worked up. He is probably just a kid. Just don't engage him and let everyone work it out themselves. Annoying, yes. Ulcer-inducing? Only if you let him. There are more difficult things in life to worry about. Its all about self-importance and the illusion of control over what others think. Some kids never grow out of it. The guy might be 50 for all I know, buy I'd guess he is pretty young (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Time to revisit. I don't know how or why you REAL KC fans on this board even engage this little shit. He literally quit the Chiefs this season to become a Chargers fan early on, then when the Chiefs got hot and the Chargers fell apart he quietly became a Chiefs fan again, now he's all over the place posting happy posts about the Chiefs. The absolute worst kind of fan and worst of all he's enjoying KC success now that they are good again. DERP. You are so F.I.T.M.. Like you and your JACKASS Friends have never thrown your Team Under the Buss. Just visit any Broncass board. Its always the same. FANS use these boards to VENT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Ahhh, Studs. Don't get yourself worked up. He is probably just a kid. Just don't engage him and let everyone work it out themselves. Annoying, yes. Ulcer-inducing? Only if you let him. There are more difficult things in life to worry about. Its all about self-importance and the illusion of control over what others think. Some kids never grow out of it. The guy might be 50 for all I know, buy I'd guess he is pretty young (hopefully). So very incorrect. Thanks for the insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoStud 3,253 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Ahhh, Studs. Don't get yourself worked up. He is probably just a kid. Just don't engage him and let everyone work it out themselves. Annoying, yes. Ulcer-inducing? Only if you let him. There are more difficult things in life to worry about. Its all about self-importance and the illusion of control over what others think. Some kids never grow out of it. The guy might be 50 for all I know, buy I'd guess he is pretty young (hopefully). Sadly he's at least 45 years old Bil......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoStud 3,253 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 You are so F.I.T.M.. Like you and your JACKASS Friends have never thrown your Team Under the Buss. Just visit any Broncass board. Its always the same. FANS use these boards to VENT. No, I have never switched allegiances when my team was doing poorly... Sorry kid. And even worse, to switch allegiances, become a fan of a new team, then switch back like a month later when the team I switched to started sucking and the team I switched from started winning LOL. That's about the lamest and most pathetic thing I've seen out of a fan in a long time. You have no credibility, I don't know why people even entertain your viewpoints. Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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