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A Cincinnati Bengals fan said that Von Miller will tackle Smith more than five times this game, he just wonders how many of them will be before the whistle.

And then try to twist Smith's leg off while he is on the ground. Miller is talented...but he is also a thug.

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I saw a twitter post (wish I had it to show) where they ran a clip of the play where Von Miller went to a player's throat with his knee cap. Instead of the free flowing video, his was choppy, and ended suddenly. I played it over and over, and then went to see the original. Yes, there was a problem. The video the Denver sports writer used was edited. It was choppy because he took parts out, and it quit because he didn't want to show the end. 

 

The Denver fans, and their media are completely complicit in this total lack of sportsmanship. They cover for it. Romanowski made his wife visit various doctors, and acted as if she had an illness. WHY would she do that? She was doctor shopping, so Romanowski could get prescription medicine to improve his intensity on the field. DOCTOR SHOPPING, and using his wife to pull it off. We knew something was wrong with Romanowski. He acted like a crazy man. Yet, Denver Media, and Denver fans vouched for him to the very end. The end that is until he went to another team. 

 

Denver has become the Oakland Raiders of the AFC West. They may be even a bit worse than the Raiders. I remember when they had Morton, and their team was kind of pathetic. They weren't cheating much back then, or not as much as they are today. They reflected their community. Colorado was still relatively sane. A bunch of cowboys ran Denver, intermixed with an occasional hippy. It was manageable. Now that California inbreds have overwhelmed the mountain state, things have changed, and so their team. 

 

Von Miller is a thug. The Denver sports writer went on in his article to say Von Miller was not guilty of many infractions, and that was proof he was not a thug. No, that is proof the NFL is bent on aiding Denver, and making sure Von Miller remains on the field. The league did not pass judgement on Miller stepping on a player earlier this year. They blew off his attempt to twist off Alex Smith's leg (after the whistle)., and they disregarded the knee to the windpipe last Sunday. The league is not going to do a darned thing about Von Miller. That leaves it up to the players. Well, do it. Take him out. 

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With the loss of the Jets to the Bills tonight, there are three AFC teams with a 5-4 record. A win by the Raiders against the visiting Vikings would allow them to join that crowd.

 

If the Chiefs, currently 3-5, win in Denver on Sunday and then proceed to win out against the remaining teams, any one loss by the Steelers or the Jets would result in the Chiefs going to the playoffs.

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The current four division leaders in the AFC (NE, CIN, INDY, and DEN) are likely to finish the year on top of their division. There are 7 teams with five or fewer losses, and only Houston is really out of it. Houston has 5 losses, and 2 of those are to wild card contending teams. Buffalo and the Jets play each other in week 17. The Dolphins play the Jets in week 12. So, if KC wins out there is still a chance that they will not make the playoffs. However, this is unlikely to happen. Likely, the Chiefs cannot lose more than 1 game in the second half of the season. Losses to Oakland or Buffalo would be damaging to their prospects. It is possible for them to still go if they have a 9-7 record, but that would take a lot of luck. None of the six or seven teams have an easy row to hoe ahead. 

 

The Chiefs have a shot. If they win straight out, they will probably make the playoffs. Its almost a sure thing. If they lose one more game, especially if it is not against Oakland or Buffalo, they will have a really good shot at making the playoffs. If they lose two more game, especially if they lose to Buffalo, and Oakland, then their future is murky at best. 

 

Its like the two guys watching a surgery in med school. One guy says to the other, "do you think he has a chance". The other guy says, "it will take a miracle". The eternal optimist turns to the two, and says, "so there is still a chance, great news"!  The Chiefs dug their own grave. It is unlikely they will be able to pull themselves out of this one. It can happen, but it just may take a miracle. 

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The Chiefs have a shot. If they win straight out, they will probably make the playoffs. Its almost a sure thing. If they lose one more game, especially if it is not against Oakland or Buffalo, they will have a really good shot at making the playoffs. If they lose two more game, especially if they lose to Buffalo, and Oakland, then their future is murky at best. 

 

Its like the two guys watching a surgery in med school. One guy says to the other, "do you think he has a chance". The other guy says, "it will take a miracle". The eternal optimist turns to the two, and says, "so there is still a chance, great news"!  The Chiefs dug their own grave. It is unlikely they will be able to pull themselves out of this one. It can happen, but it just may take a miracle. 

It certainly will take winning in Denver. I can't see the Chiefs winning out from week 11 onward (despite an easy schedule) if they can't build on the momentum they've achieved thus far.

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It certainly will take winning in Denver. I can't see the Chiefs winning out from week 11 onward (despite an easy schedule) if they can't build on the momentum they've achieved thus far.

Winning in Denver would be nice, but its not really necessary. Most likely it will not have as big of an impact as the two games against Oakland, and the game against Buffalo. The Chiefs could lose at Denver, and still make the playoffs. If they lose to Oakland or Buffalo, their chances decrease a lot more than a loss against the Broncos. 

 

There are 6 teams in contention of the two wild card spots. Forget about the division, because KC is not going to catch Denver. In addition, Cincinnati, and New England are locks to win their division. Absent a complete break down, none of those teams have much of a concern. Indy will probably win their division. Looking at the AFC South, the other contestants are pathetic, and Indy has an easy remaining schedule.

 

At least one wild card team will be no better than 10-6, and it is just as probable the second team will be no better than 10-6 either. If it comes down to a scrum of teams with the same record, then the key is winning against like opponents. Denver only got beat by Indy, who is probably not going to be a wild card team. Other than if Green Bay loses to Oakland, that loss won't make much difference. The Bengals play the Steelers, but they already beat Pittsburgh once, and Pittsburgh lost to KC, so that game loss doesn't matter. The Chicago game matters because the Chiefs lost, and Oakland beat the Bears. However, if the Chiefs win out against Oakland, then that lost is neutralized. The upcoming game between the Vikings and the Raiders would be important only if the Chiefs don't beat Oakland both games. 

 

To sum it up. It is unlikely two wild card teams will have fewer than 6 losses this season. If one team does, but the other does not, then the Chiefs may be in a head to head match up for the final wild card spot. In that case, the Chiefs (due to the teams they lost to) are in good shape. If it comes down to a three or four team tie then the Chiefs win out due to winning percentage in conference. 

 

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

  1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
  2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
Two Clubs
  1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
  2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
  4. Strength of victory.
  5. Strength of schedule.
  6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
  7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
  8. Best net points in conference games.
  9. Best net points in all games.
  10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  11. Coin toss.
Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

  1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
  2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
  5. Strength of victory.
  6. Strength of schedule.
  7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
  8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
  9. Best net points in conference games.
  10. Best net points in all games.
  11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  12. Coin toss

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

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Do the math. If KC wins the final seven games of the season, they will be in the playoffs, and the Denver game does not matter.

While it may be unlikely, if the Steelers and the Jets run the table while the Bengals and Patriots don't drop more than four games this season, the Chiefs would be mathematically eliminated even if they won out (including the game in Denver). Given the physical condition of Ben Roethlisberger and Ryan Fitzpatrick, this outcome seems very unlikely.

 

The Chiefs need every win they can get. Especially the Denver win.

 

I'm not ruling out the possibility of a late-season collapse by the Broncos. If the Chiefs win in Denver, and then the Broncos drop three of their final seven games (say for example their home games against the Patriots and Bengals, as well as one of their two games against the Chargers) while the Chiefs go on to win out, the Chiefs would own the AFC West (which would be very nice).

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Denver has good guards, Mathis, and Vasquez, but not much else on their offensive line. Their center, Matt Paradis is below average. Forget about their Tackles. Their Tackles aren't very good, but Manning gets rid of the ball too soon for them to be of any importance. Manning thinks fast, and passes fast. His average pass release time is in just 2.33 seconds. This is hardly time enough for a player to come around the Tackle. 

 

The answer is up the middle. Poe was coming off an injury, and did not play much. He hasn't been as effective this year as in the past. I would hope he has had time to recover. Jaye Howard is the starter. He can get pressure up the middle. One key is for the Chiefs to rotate Howard and Poe in order to get constant pressure up the gut. Getting pressure up the middle can be defeated by running the football. So, the Inside linebackers really need to step up. Stop the run. Force Manning to pass. Get pressure up the middle, where you can get in his face quickest. Finally, the secondary needs to cover closely. If the Chiefs can breathe down the backs of Denver's receivers for greater than three seconds, the odds are greatly increased that Manning will either throw the ball away or turn the ball over. What kills is missed assignments or blown coverage. Manning will find the most open player, and deliver the ball at the optimum time. The Chiefs will have to anticipate, and be in the right spot. If the pass is complete, the remaining defensive backs better get there in time to shorten the play. YAC is a huge part of their offense.

 

Agree.
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While it may be unlikely, if the Steelers and the Jets run the table while the Bengals and Patriots don't drop more than four games this season, the Chiefs would be mathematically eliminated even if they won out (including the game in Denver). Given the physical condition of Ben Roethlisberger and Ryan Fitzpatrick, this outcome seems very unlikely.

 

The Chiefs need every win they can get. Especially the Denver win.

 

I'm not ruling out the possibility of a late-season collapse by the Broncos. If the Chiefs win in Denver, and then the Broncos drop three of their final seven games (say for example their home games against the Patriots and Bengals, as well as one of their two games against the Chargers) while the Chiefs go on to win out, the Chiefs would own the AFC West (which would be very nice).

Andy Reid has the same fantasy. 

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I predict the Chiefs will lose this game. It would shock me if they win today. The Chiefs have seven games after the Denver game. Those games will decide if the Chiefs go to the playoffs. I hope they win today, but if they want to look back at what kept them from playing post regular season games, they can point to the games they should have won after blowing the home game to Denver. 

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