KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Andy Reid offered little explanation for the poor time management that cost the Kansas City Chiefs in the fourth quarter of their 27-20 loss to the New England Patriots in Saturday's divisional round game. The Chiefs trailed 27-13 and had a first-and-goal at the New England 1-yard line with 2:33 left. They had all of their timeouts remaining. Instead of throwing a pass that would stop the clock if it went incomplete, the Chiefs were stopped for a 1-yard loss on a running play. With the clock moving, the Chiefs huddled and didn't get off another snap before the two-minute warning. "I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about,'' Reid said when asked about the clock management late in the game. T hen Reid said, "We wanted to get a play off. There was 2:20 on the clock. We wanted to make sure we got our best personnel on the field for that play, and we didn't get that done.'' Tackle Eric Fisher was penalized for a false start coming out of the two-minute warning. The Chiefs eventually scored a touchdown, but it took four snaps and 42 seconds.By then, they had little choice but to try an onside kick, which the Patriots recovered. "It's a fine line between getting in the best play versus keep going at the line of scrimmage,'' quarterback Alex Smith said. " Certainly, it would have been nice to get a score before the two-minute warning. It would have helped tremendously with three timeouts [remaining]. "We probably could have just kicked off and gone for the stop and we would have had decent field position.'' Asked about the choice of play calls immediately before the two-minute warning, Smith said, You're right there at the door step. You're at the 1-yard line. It's a fine line, and you're trying to punch it in. Obviously, if you get stopped the clock is running. Throwing it has the benefit of stopping the clock on an incomplete pass.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Andy Reid offered little explanation for the poor time management that cost the Kansas City Chiefs in the fourth quarter of their 27-20 loss to the New England Patriots in Saturday's divisional round game. The Chiefs trailed 27-13 and had a first-and-goal at the New England 1-yard line with 2:33 left. They had all of their timeouts remaining. Instead of throwing a pass that would stop the clock if it went incomplete, the Chiefs were stopped for a 1-yard loss on a running play. With the clock moving, the Chiefs huddled and didn't get off another snap before the two-minute warning. "I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about,'' Reid said when asked about the clock management late in the game. T hen Reid said, "We wanted to get a play off. There was 2:20 on the clock. We wanted to make sure we got our best personnel on the field for that play, and we didn't get that done.'' Tackle Eric Fisher was penalized for a false start coming out of the two-minute warning. The Chiefs eventually scored a touchdown, but it took four snaps and 42 seconds.By then, they had little choice but to try an onside kick, which the Patriots recovered. "It's a fine line between getting in the best play versus keep going at the line of scrimmage,'' quarterback Alex Smith said. " Certainly, it would have been nice to get a score before the two-minute warning. It would have helped tremendously with three timeouts [remaining]. "We probably could have just kicked off and gone for the stop and we would have had decent field position.'' Asked about the choice of play calls immediately before the two-minute warning, Smith said, You're right there at the door step. You're at the 1-yard line. It's a fine line, and you're trying to punch it in. Obviously, if you get stopped the clock is running. Throwing it has the benefit of stopping the clock on an incomplete pass.'' manoman He will never get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The Chiefs' hot-or-cold defense allowed the Patriots about 3.4 points per possession not ending in a kneel-down. Clock management was not the reason the Chiefs lost. It's so far down the list of reasons the Chiefs lost so as to be a red herring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 manoman He will never get it. That's the damn problem!! He needs to just manage the game. Would have been nice to nab wisenhunt as OC. He had to have been thinking it was plenty of time with 3 TO remaining? That's assuming you get the onside. Or he had no faith in his defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I don't know if I buy it. 3 time outs will only get you so many seconds. Calling a TO at 2:20 would have saved 20 seconds. Using that TO when NE had the ball saved 35 seconds. It just sour grapes to me. Albert should have stepped out, but if he could score, then he did the right thing. You don't play conservative down by 14 with under 3 minutes left. I don't know. It is easy to criticize. Running for the TD is what it is. If that was the best chance then do it. Didn't work, so it looks like a mistake. It was better than an INT that would end the game. Clock management did not have any effect on the outcome of that game. If we would have gotten the onside kick and ran out of time, that would be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I don't know if I buy it. 3 time outs will only get you so many seconds. Calling a TO at 2:20 would have saved 20 seconds. Using that TO when NE had the ball saved 35 seconds. It just sour grapes to me. Albert should have stepped out, but if he could score, then he did the right thing. You don't play conservative down by 14 with under 3 minutes left. I don't know. It is easy to criticize. Running for the TD is what it is. If that was the best chance then do it. Didn't work, so it looks like a mistake. It was better than an INT that would end the game. Clock management did not have any effect on the outcome of that game. If we would have gotten the onside kick and ran out of time, that would be different. We needed to have more planned type of plays or situational practice or something. I don't mind the calls but get them in sooner, don't huddle. I know, I know, the right play is more important than a few seconds and we don't want miscommunication to lead to a pick, but there are things that we should have done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie 1,518 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 In the end it did NOT make the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I don't know. It is easy to criticize. Running for the TD is what it is. If that was the best chance then do it. Didn't work, so it looks like a mistake. It was better than an INT that would end the game. Clock management did not have any effect on the outcome of that game. If we would have gotten the onside kick and ran out of time, that would be different. The Seahawks got raked over the coals after last year's Super Bowl because they attempted a potentially game-winning touchdown pass when their runningback was deemed to be the most talented player on the field. It's so easy to second-guess the highlight moments when there's a slew of other moments less famous but equally critical to determining the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Agree with Wilkie and Diehard. When it mattered, our defense could not stop Tom Brady. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Agree with Wilkie and Diehard. When it mattered, our defense could not stop Tom Brady. w True. But also when it mattered and the defense finally had a bad game the offense couldn't win it for us. A 5:30 drive when down by 2 scores isn't going to do it. I looked like we were protecting a lead. No quick strike ability. We averaged like 4.5/ passing attempt. Without the defense this year we wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs and would probably be drafting in the upper third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 971 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 This game wasn't decided by the clock management. Could it have been better, sure but that's not the reason. Everyone including the damn so called professionals need to realize that we lost because we did not capitalize on our redzone trips, and a turnover. That's it. Chiefs moved the ball, ran it well but couldn't get TD s. Just like the game against cincy. I am proud of the way they played. We all should be. All of the injuries to key guys and still in the game against Brady. Cmon. These Chiefs are for real. Alex smith played his ass off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 True. But also when it mattered and the defense finally had a bad game the offense couldn't win it for us. A 5:30 drive when down by 2 scores isn't going to do it. I looked like we were protecting a lead. No quick strike ability. We averaged like 4.5/ passing attempt. Without the defense this year we wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs and would probably be drafting in the upper third. Who on the Chiefs' offense was supposed to fill the role vacated by Jeremy Maclin? That's what happened to the "quick strike ability". If the offense had failed to extend possessions, your point would have some substance, but time of possession wasn't a problem. Any complaint about the offense really ends there. On a scale of 1 to 10, the quality of the Chiefs' defensive effort rated at about a 2, and then Knile Davis fumbled away a critical offensive possession. If we're going to start with the argument that the defense played well for most of the year, and had a bad game in the playoffs, and then we're leaving it at that, fine. But once you point the finger at the offense as you did above, you basically justify a defensive performance that would be unacceptable at any time of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmania 22 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The only thing I could gripe about was the play calling at the 1 yard line, if anything. You assume that your OL is going to block better and your going to score, and if that happens no one says anything. In reality, what cost us all the time was Wilson not reaching the ball across the goal line. Go back and watch the play, and it is a fairly easy touchdown if he just reaches out with the ball. He kept it tucked into his stomach the whole time. It was still a great season, and should be a building block for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Wilson rarely reaches out, dives, thinks about his footing, puts his body on the line to make a catch (though once he makes the catch I've seen it). I won't say that doing so would have made a catch from an incomplete, as we don't know (he bobbled the ball on the lack-of-toe-tapping play against Houston). This one? Yeah, he should have reached over the line, as I don't think he would have fumbled it into the endzone for a touchback turnover. I wanted him to go inside, but I see how that could lead to losing yards or a fumble. Going out of bounds would have been ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Who on the Chiefs' offense was supposed to fill the role vacated by Jeremy Maclin? That's what happened to the "quick strike ability". If the offense had failed to extend possessions, your point would have some substance, but time of possession wasn't a problem. Any complaint about the offense really ends there. On a scale of 1 to 10, the quality of the Chiefs' defensive effort rated at about a 2, and then Knile Davis fumbled away a critical offensive possession. If we're going to start with the argument that the defense played well for most of the year, and had a bad game in the playoffs, and then we're leaving it at that, fine. But once you point the finger at the offense as you did above, you basically justify a defensive performance that would be unacceptable at any time of the year. We don't have a quick strike offense with or without Maclin. I don't think this is news. Maclin was only like 25th or so in 20+ & 40+ receptions. We have a very short pass-based offense that works well with the lead. Were we ever behind during the streak? We've tried a few times for the deep ball but they were usually overthrown and the fault for this lies with the receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We were behind for about 11 minutes either during the streak or since Week Something late in the season. I forgot the details of the stat I found. I think it was for the streak. That's a good thing to be ahead and I think other than how long it took, we did better this game. Some of that was New England's strategy of not focusing on stopping the score but rather taking away anything quick. We took what they were giving us and in the past, we took nothing. We did execute, so credit due, but too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We don't have a quick strike offense with or without Maclin. I don't think this is news. Maclin was only like 25th or so in 20+ & 40+ receptions. We have a very short pass-based offense that works well with the lead. Were we ever behind during the streak? We've tried a few times for the deep ball but they were usually overthrown and the fault for this lies with the receivers. Your view is far too narrow. The Chiefs were tied for fourteenth in the league with receptions of 40 or more yards despite suspect pass blocking for most of the year. Without Maclin, there was nothing to stretch defenses to open up running lanes for the rest of the receivers after the catch. In a receiving corps lacking playmakers, Maclin made the whole thing work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The Chiefs need a return specialist in addition to a WR, and a RT. I believe LDT and Jah Reid are better at RG, and should battle it out for that position. Fisher, outside of that penalty on the goal line, has played relatively well, and until then, mistake proof. Zach Fulton did alright, but he is definitely not as good as Mitch Morse. Jeff Allen is a UFA now. I hope the Chiefs will be able to sign him back. Grubbs is still on the team. He went on IR for a strange (neck) injury. He wasn't dominant when he played. Grubbs is a better run blocker than a pass blocker. I think there is a 50 / 50 chance he does not return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kychief 239 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Agree with Wilkie and Diehard. When it mattered, our defense could not stop Tom Brady. w yep..lack of a pass rush due to injuries doomed the chiefs..but damn they are a team with lots of heart and leaders..just need them healthy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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