oldtimer 8,686 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 what do we get... 28th pick? Will there be any WR's out there available then or is another FA in order?How much cap space do we have? I really can not stand any of the remaining teams except possibly the Cardinals so my other chores will take preference to game watching. I think this season has been a tremendous building block. Our holes are few and our needs are easily filled. I'm looking forward to Crows mocks & others' analysis of who will available affordable and draftable. We just got beat yesterday by a HOF QB & Coach most likely a HOF TE . That team has been there & done that. we had a slugger's chance and did not take advantage of the opportunities given . We needed to play an A+ game and we didn't. I hate the Pats just as much as the Donks and Raidirts but losing to them unlike the other 2 is no shame. They shine when they need to shine...our time is coming and its sooner than later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD4Valerio 17 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The only thing I hate more than having to see all of the sports news outlets heaping praise on Tom Brady after he wins a game against the Chiefs is the fact that he totally deserves after his performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 what do we get... 28th pick? At the earliest, the Chiefs will pick 26th. If either the Seahawks or Steelers lose today, the Chiefs will pick 27th. If both of those teams lose, the Chiefs will pick 28th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Going into next year, the Chiefs look like: Offense: QB: Alex Smith, Aaron Murray HB: Jamaal Charles, Spencer Ware FB: Anthony Sherman WR: Jeremy Maclin, Chris Conley, Fred Williams, Albert Wilson, Frankie Hammond TE: Travis Kelce, Demetrius Harris, James O’Shaughnessy LT: Eric Fisher LG: Ben Grubbs, Zach Fulton C: Mitch Morse RG: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Paul Fanaika RT: Jah Reid Defense: DT: Dontari Poe LE: Rakeem Nunez-Roches RE: Allen Bailey LOLB: Justin Houston LILB: Ramik Wilson, D.J. Alexander RILB: Josh Mauga ROLB: Dee Ford LCB: Marcus Peters, Marcus Cooper RCB: Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson SS: Ron Parker FS: Daniel Sorenson Players listed in bold typeface were not starters this year. Not every player under contract for 2016 was listed above. Notable Free-Agents: Charcandrick West (ERFA) Jason Avant Jeff Allen Mike DeVito Jaye Howard Derrick Johnson Tamba Hali Sean Smith Eric Berry Husain Abdullah The Chiefs are estimated to have over $28 million in cap space. It seems that the priority outbound free agents would be Charcandrick West (ERFA Tender), Jeff Allen, Jaye Howard, Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry (Franchise Tag), and Husain Abdullah. Re-signing all of these would still leave significant holes on the defense, and leave very little money for anyone else besides those signed from the 2016 draft class. Edited to acknowledge Demetrius Harris' contract extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Thanks Phatal for this detailed list. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmania 22 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Dang, apparently Phatal did not drink as much during and after the game as I did. No way could I have waded through all that shit on my own. Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Going into next year, the Chiefs look like: Offense: QB: Alex Smith, Aaron Murray HB: Jamaal Charles, Spencer Ware FB: Anthony Sherman WR: Jeremy Maclin, Chris Conley, Fred Williams, Albert Wilson, Frankie Hammond TE: Travis Kelce, James O’Shaughnessy LT: Eric Fisher LG: Ben Grubbs, Zach Fulton C: Mitch Morse RG: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Paul Fanaika RT: Jah Reid Defense: DT: Dontari Poe LE: Rakeem Nunez-Roches RE: Allen Bailey LOLB: Justin Houston LILB: Ramik Wilson, D.J. Alexander RILB: Josh Mauga ROLB: Dee Ford LCB: Marcus Peters, Marcus Cooper RCB: Phillip Gaines, Steven Nelson SS: Ron Parker FS: Daniel Sorenson Players listed in bold typeface were not starters this year. Not every player under contract for 2016 was listed above. Notable Free-Agents: Charcandrick West (ERFA) Demetrius Harris (RFA) Jason Avant Jeff Allen Mike DeVito Jaye Howard Derrick Johnson Tamba Hali Sean Smith Eric Berry Husain Abdullah The Chiefs are estimated to have over $28 million in cap space. It seems that the priority outbound free agents would be Charcandrick West (ERFA Tender), Demetrius Harris (RFA tender), Jeff Allen, Jaye Howard, Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry (Franchise Tag), and Husain Abdullah. Re-signing all of these would still leave significant holes on the defense, and leave very little money for anyone else besides those signed from the 2016 draft class. Harris already re-signed for 3 yrs. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/red-zone/article54535770.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We needed Harris on one of the high endzone throws. We needed a flag or a non-stumbling Kelce for the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 We need a balls-to-the-wall-throw-it-down-the-field-trying-to-win-in-the-playoffs-because-there-is-no-tomorrow type of quarterback. I really appreciate what our smart, running QB did this year. Love my Chiefs, had a blast watching them this year and I'm ready for the next level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The Chiefs need another go to WR, and a RT. Mitchell Schwartz - FA for RT. I like Josh Doctson for WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Harris already re-signed for 3 yrs. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/red-zone/article54535770.html Thanks. I edited my list accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Thanks. I edited my list accordingly. np Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 At the earliest, the Chiefs will pick 26th. If either the Seahawks or Steelers lose today, the Chiefs will pick 27th. If both of those teams lose, the Chiefs will pick 28th. Thanks, stupid Steelers and Seahawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 NFL.com's Top 20 Free Agents list is up. Would you want any of these at the prices they're likely to fetch? The only defensive talents I saw seemed to be a mismatch for the Chiefs' 3-4 man coverage schemes, while the offensive players included only one I might consider, tackle Andre Smith, though I would have to look at more tape of his pass protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Top 20 2016 Unrestricted free agents 1. Von Miller, Denver Broncos linebacker: Miller has been one of the best overall defensive players in the league since he was drafted. He's as strong stopping the run as he is coming off the edge. There's no way the Broncos will let him hit the market. 2. Josh Norman, Carolina Panthers cornerback: There's nothing like having your breakout season in a contract year. Norman has been the best cornerback in football this year and is a legitimate Defensive Player of the Year candidate. He's not going anywhere. 3. Muhammad Wilkerson, New York Jets defensive end: Sheldon Richardson and Leonard Williams were splashy draft pick additions, but Wilkerson is still the best defensive lineman on the Jets. New York has played hardball in negotiations thus far with Wilkerson, but the franchise tag has to be an option here. 4. Alshon Jeffery, Chicago Bears wide receiver: He might not be the most refined receiver in the league, but few are better at catching deep balls. He's fourth in the league in receiving yards-per-game and topped 1,400 yards in 2013. 5. Cordy Glenn, Buffalo Bills offensive tackle: True franchise left tackles are awfully hard to find. That's why he's a strong candidate for the franchise tag. 6. Jason Pierre-Paul, New York Giants defensive end: He's still disruptive despite playing with a club over his injured hand. There has to be a chance JPP will only get better as he learns how best to play with his disadvantage, and the ceiling here is tremendous. Still, he has struggled to wrap up opposing running backs. Can he finish plays? 7. Eric Berry, Kansas City Chiefs safety: Berry has come back from his cancer scare better than ever. Strong safety play is hard to find and Berry has the versatility teams are looking for. 8. Malik Jackson, Broncos defensive tackle: Like Norman, he's having a career year in a contract season. It's hard to find interior pass rushers like Jackson just entering his prime. 9. Olivier Vernon, Dolphins defensive end: The other Dolphins pass rusher opposite Cameron Wake has dialed up a lot of pressure over the last three years, even if he doesn't always finish the play with a sack. He's clearly an above average pass rush starter, which is going to make him a very rich man. Expectations are he'll leave Miami, who can only afford to pay so much on their defensive line. 10. Doug Martin, Buccaneers running back: He won't make the same money as the guys listed above (and below) him here because of the position he plays, but no one has helped their value more this season. Martin has gone from an afterthought to the No. 2 rusher in the NFL. 11. Bruce Irvin, Seattle Seahawks linebacker: He isn't a defense-changing talent, but he's also better than you think. Irvin is a quality versatile starter. 12. Russell Okung, Seahawks tackle: Even if Okung is only an average starter, he's going to get paid in this market. If he makes it there. 13. Eric Weddle, San Diego Chargers safety: Weddle has a skill set that tons of teams are looking for to shore up the back end of their defenses. His age (30) works against him, but few safeties have been better over the last five years. 14. Sam Bradford, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback: This season has not helped Bradford's value, yet there would be no shortage of teams willing to give Bradford a try if the Eagles don't want to re-sign him. 15. Kirk Cousins, Washington Redskins quarterback: Replacement level starting quarterbacks are worth plenty, and that appears to be Cousins' floor. At worst, he's a poor man's Andy Dalton with room to improve over time. He has more value to the Redskins than anyone else. 16. Matt Forte, Bears running back: One of the league's most complete backs has not shown many signs of age yet. Perhaps he should be paired with another quality option, but there's no doubt he could upgrade many backfields. 17. Andre Smith, Cincinnati Bengals right tackle: How will Smith react to getting paid big bucks (again)? While his career has included some ups and downs, Smith has often been a top-shelf starter. 18. Danny Trevathan, Broncos linebacker: Trevathan is a three-down linebacker entering his prime that can hold up in pass coverage. We're big fans of his skill set and he's just the type of above-average starter that gets paid like a superstar in free agency. 19. Janoris Jenkins, St. Louis Rams cornerback: He's steadily improved each season in the league and now is a playmaking starter. 20. Brock Osweiler, Broncos quarterback: It's hard to imagine John Elway letting his promising young starter hit the market, although this will be a tricky contract to pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Good to see Denver with some BIG Contracts to renew..... Of course Mr. Berry is of strong interest. No One else on this list stands out as a "Must have" IMO. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Good to see Denver with some BIG Contracts to renew..... Of course Mr. Berry is of strong interest. No One else on this list stands out as a "Must have" IMO. w Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowhead 1,070 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Yep Manning's a goner and that frees up $19 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Yeah, we needed Manning to be on the fence - a Super Bowl win and he'll retire. But without that, they and he move on, right? I mean, if he trusts them, no, but if he just thinks he's going to be benched, yes. I wonder how long it takes for them to sort things out. If he wins, probably short, but if not, do they wait for PR reasons? Does he wait to see if/when they resign Brock? Put up a stink? You see, I don't know his contract status. He redid his deal, but he's not the type to cut money out, I feel he'd just guarantee more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I really hope Gaines or a rookie work out. If we have to start Flaiming at CB and watch QBs play pitch and catch all season, Peters becomes irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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