FANATIC 852 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 My bet is he ends up in Philly and may be another Rich Gannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I thought NO should bring him back as the replacement for Brees. Philly scares me a little more. Thankfully the Duck dumped most of their talent, but Daniels will still do well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I joked to someone here that when the reports were that Daniel is already signed/agreed (Rotoworld) that we can start calling him Chase Daniels or Chance Daniels instead of Chase Daniel as it is supposed to be. Now, two people here called him Daniels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 If Chase becomes the Eagles starting QB, Pederson won't have a job for long, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 If Chase becomes the Eagles starting QB, Pederson won't have a job for long, IMO. not sure about your rationale on that statement, daniel will do a far better job than sanchez or bradford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 My bet is he ends up in Philly and may be another Rich Gannon. Because the Chiefs are letting go of Daniel and keeping Smith? Chargers fans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefs convert Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs Convert 511 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Dorsey Going to "Fight Like a Dickens" to Retain Daniel. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article62802822.html No, not really. He said wanted him at his (Dorsey's) price. Said that Daniel is competitive and wants a chance to start and that the Chiefs couldn't pay him starter's money. Also said that he cannot comment on Griffin but that Reid wants a player who is smart and will work hard. The article confirmed that Alex Smith was picked as a Pro Bowl alternate this year as well as 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Dorsey's comments pretty much told me this. Berry nor DJ will be going anywhere...Chase is history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Bradford signed a two-year deal. We'll see if the talk about Daniel signing with Philly was to get Bradford to sign earlier and for less or real. I can't imagine it having much effect besides a backup plan. Poor Chase was a backup without even signing. Wonder if he'll still sign for backup pay to have a chance to come in if Bradford gets injured again. Unless he can start elsewhere, that might be his best chance. Not wishing for Bradford to get injured, but not betting against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I like Daniel, but the team has other priorities right now. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I had hoped Daniel would be signed as a starter somewhere just for the compensatory picks. I wasn't expecting a contract in the $10 million per year range, but he could have contributed to a 5th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 There's still time for Daniel to be signed by the Rams or Texans or Browns and have them one game short of the playoffs. Up until the end, we'll have to endure those who point to him as some I told you so situation until they fall short. Nothing against him, just talking about the teams. It's like Fitzpatrick and the Jets, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 There's still time for Daniel to be signed by the Rams or Texans or Browns and have them one game short of the playoffs. Up until the end, we'll have to endure those who point to him as some I told you so situation until they fall short. Nothing against him, just talking about the teams. It's like Fitzpatrick and the Jets, IMO. After a strong year in which he was clearly the motivating force for the Chiefs' offense, Alex Smith's situation will be a primary contributing factor to his opening the 2016 season as a Top Ten Quarterback. In years past, Smith played on offenses that had little talent and almost no depth in the receiving corps, but very strong running game personnel. For that reason, Smith was cast as a quarterback that 'needed a strong running game and strong defense to be successful'. Then Jamaal Charles went down, the offensive philosophy shifted, and that whole concept got turned on its ear. In any case, Chase Daniel wasn't asked to do anything with what was left of a roster shredded by injury. Anyone trying to paint Daniel as a soon-to-be-elite quarterback that is slipping through the Chiefs' grasp simply isn't capable of recognizing the difference between high quality quarterbacking and aggressive gun-slinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 First I have heard about Daniels being a soon-to-be-elite QB. Or a gun slinger. Where did this article come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 After a strong year in which he was clearly the motivating force for the Chiefs' offense, Alex Smith's situation will be a primary contributing factor to his opening the 2016 season as a Top Ten Quarterback. In years past, Smith played on offenses that had little talent and almost no depth in the receiving corps, but very strong running game personnel. For that reason, Smith was cast as a quarterback that 'needed a strong running game and strong defense to be successful'. Then Jamaal Charles went down, the offensive philosophy shifted, and that whole concept got turned on its ear. In any case, Chase Daniel wasn't asked to do anything with what was left of a roster shredded by injury. Anyone trying to paint Daniel as a soon-to-be-elite quarterback that is slipping through the Chiefs' grasp simply isn't capable of recognizing the difference between high quality quarterbacking and aggressive gun-slinging. The Chiefs were 6th in rushing, 30th in passing. Alex did have his career high in passing yards which placed him at 35th in the league in pass yds/game for the season. (not a typo) So with a #6 rushing team and #7 defense vs 30th in passing, Alex needs a lot of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The Chiefs were 6th in rushing, 30th in passing. Alex did have his career high in passing yards which placed him at 35th in the league in pass yds/game for the season. (not a typo) So with a #6 rushing team and #7 defense vs 30th in passing, Alex needs a lot of help. I won't argue about where Smith is on the ladder, but yards per game is a stupid metric to EVER compare or rank a QB and I would say that if our QB was top ten in yards. YPA, third down conversions, red zone conversions, total rushing first downs on third down can be helpful, touchdowns/INT rate, etc. are better. We ran the clock out a lot in second halfs and QBs shouldn't be dinged for it, nor should playing catchup be rewarded. It's too shallow and that's not even claiming Smith is great. Besides, 498 yards of that #6 rushing team was Smith and even more for teams having to account for him, either running or reading the defense or audibling into runs, which former QBs have credited him for. Second, having a #6 rushing team hurts Smith's opportunity for passing yards. Other efficiencies are more important. Third, the defense is helped by the offense (note: not giving Smith all the credit) resting the defense, not giving them short fields to defend, and giving them some leads so they could be more aggressive. It's a team game affected by everyone. Smith doesn't deserve more credit and he doesn't deserve less, by stupid metrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I saw a guy that looked like Chase Daniels at the Home Show, if so he was out of shape IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The Chiefs were 6th in rushing, 30th in passing. Alex did have his career high in passing yards which placed him at 35th in the league in pass yds/game for the season. (not a typo) So with a #6 rushing team and #7 defense vs 30th in passing, Alex needs a lot of help. Great! More stats! 31-18. The Chiefs had more than a few games where they got up early thanks to the passing game, and then ran the ball to finish out the game. Smith was successful with Frank Gore. How did Gore do when Smith left? Jamaal Charles was effective before Smith arrived, but when did Charles have his career year? Then Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware and Knile Davis were splitting carries, and they consistently got decent yardage. At what point does one have to admit that the quarterback is making the running game work, and not vice versa? Simply comparing volume statistics without context will not yield any useful information. There were only 13 teams in the NFL that had winning records in 2015. Only 9 of those teams had winning records in 2014 as well, and only 7 of those teams had winning records every season since 2013. The quarterbacks of those teams in all three years: Carson Palmer, Andy Dalton, Russell Wilson, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and Alex Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Great! More stats! 31-18. The Chiefs had more than a few games where they got up early thanks to the passing game, and then ran the ball to finish out the game. Smith was successful with Frank Gore. How did Gore do when Smith left? Jamaal Charles was effective before Smith arrived, but when did Charles have his career year? Then Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware and Knile Davis were splitting carries, and they consistently got decent yardage. At what point does one have to admit that the quarterback is making the running game work, and not vice versa? Simply comparing volume statistics without context will not yield any useful information. There were only 13 teams in the NFL that had winning records in 2015. Only 9 of those teams had winning records in 2014 as well, and only 7 of those teams had winning records every season since 2013. The quarterbacks of those teams in all three years: Carson Palmer, Andy Dalton, Russell Wilson, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, and Alex Smith. It is a hard thing to prove, but I agree with you. There is a case to be made for Smith being good for RBs. And WRs and TEs for that matter. Watching the production of players after he left SF and seeing what he did for Charles and the Beard for that matter makes a pretty strong case that he is an above average QB even if total passing yards are bottom 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 My bet is he ends up in Philly and may be another Rich Gannon. And it is so. Glad he is not in the AFC West. Best of luck Chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 And it is so. Glad he is not in the AFC West. Best of luck Chase. Ugg, I like Daniel, but it's posts like yours about Gannon that make me hope Bradford stays healthy (don't want to root for Daniel to struggle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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