eraser 722 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Which is why I think he should be moved to Guard. Dude can't get his head up quick enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Eric Fisher - Jah Reid - Mitch Morse - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - Mitchell Schwartz The Chiefs have a backup guard with 22 games of experience as a starter in Zach Fulton. If a tackle gets injured, Reid would slide to tackle, and Fulton would fill the vacated left guard position. The Chiefs need to keep developing the offensive linemen, but this is the best they have looked in May of any year since John Dorsey arrived. Looks like the same pile as last year. Only Schwartz is different. Except that all of these players have added experience to go along with their talent. For the most part, last year's starts weren't wasted on untalented players or on players that weren't retained into the following year. Compare that to what followed the seasons of 2013 (when Branden Albert and Geoff Schwartz departed) and 2014 (when Rodney Hudson and Ryan Harris left). The beauty of the Chiefs' current situation on offensive line is this: Eric Fisher: 2 years left under contract Jah Reid: 3 years left under contract Mitch Morse: 3 years left under contract Laurent Duvernay-Tardif: 2 years left under contract Mitchell Schwartz: 5 years left under contract Zach Fulton: 2 years left under contract Continuity and cohesion is extremely important in football. Aside from the quarterbacking position, nowhere is that more important than on the offensive line. If five of these six players can stay healthy for a good portion of the 2016 season, no one will be looking at the Chiefs' offensive line as one of the greatest liabilities of the team. More importantly, barring a catastrophic injury, these same players can be expected back for 2017. This is the sort of stability in which a franchise, and especially an offense, can thrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccrow 529 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Yes, the Chiefs should. I doubt they do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I don't know. The more I think about it the less I like bringing this guy in. We already tried bringing in a declining vet last year and that didn't work out so well. We know from history that buying an offensive line rarely works out well. Plus you only really need average guards. No guard has ever led his team to a superbowl victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I don't know. The more I think about it the less I like bringing this guy in. We already tried bringing in a declining vet last year and that didn't work out so well. We know from history that buying an offensive line rarely works out well. Plus you only really need average guards. No guard has ever led his team to a superbowl victory. Will Shields didn't win a Super Bowl, but he was a difference maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I would rather have Ehinger playing at guard. Me, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Like Xen, I am also soured on vet guards comung in. Probably just Grubbs and Fandago effect. Love to get youth. The rook and the doctor suit me just fine. I guess I am more worried about Morse than anything when it comes to Iline. 2 concussions his rookie year is not a promising start. It will be a shame if a talented young player like him can't have a career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Hah Reid has a low ceiling, but he gives it his all. I really like his hustle. LDT should be better. Morse was excellent house rookie season. The only thing that can detail him is his health. Too many concussions too soon That's what happens when you lead with your head. Short career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Chargers signed OL Matt Slauson to a two-year contract. Slauson also visited with Buffalo following his release this week. He'll take over at center for the Chargers after grading as a top-20 guard at PFF last season. Slauson's signing blocks third-rounder Max Tuerk and will push Chris Watt into a swing role on the interior line. My Take: KC Continues to settle for hope vs proven talent as the rest of the AFC West takes action! Draft a felon but pass on Collins last year. Now let Slauson slip buy. 45 sacks last year. Not sure KC knows how to evaluate oline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Looks like the same pile as last year. Only Schwartz is different. That's a gigantic "only." The guy literally stops anything coming his direction toward the QB. Experience with the other guys counts a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 Not sure we have the cap space. But I'm all for upgrading the line. KC has very little invested in the entire group of guards You restructure guys that want to win now. To late SD took action. KC content to simply be competitive while selling tickets. This regime does not care about a window to win it all. Just stay above average not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 You restructure guys that want to win now. To late SD took action. KC content to simply be competitive while selling tickets. This regime does not care about a window to win it all. Just stay above average not great. Quit yer whinin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Okiechief1 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 That's a gigantic "only." The guy literally stops anything coming his direction toward the QB. Experience with the other guys counts a lot. Yep, and the RG won't to have to worry about helping the edge anymore cause it's pretty much on lockdown. That one player will help make the RG better, by how much much who knows, but it will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Quit yer whinin. That's exactly what it is. If there is anything Andy Reid knows about, it is O-line. You need great tackles. We have them in Fish and Schwartz. Guards are a dime a dozen and get good from playing together and from good coaching. We have young guys who are playing together and learning from a guy who knows O-lines. I will say, we seem a little overbalanced in pass protection now. With Charles, Ware, and West, we need a little more emphasis on run blocking. Time of possession. Holding a lead. The biggest unknown is what, if any, drop off might occur with Pederson gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Yep, and the RG won't to have to worry about helping the edge anymore cause it's pretty much on lockdown. That one player will help make the RG better, by how much much who knows, but it will be better. Half the sacks. Alex must be smiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 Quit yer whinin. Free Speech Jerk. Its a forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Free Speech Jerk. Its a forum. "Quit yer whinin" is just an expression meaning "don't act like such a victim." Its easy to feel like a victim when we haven't won a championship since 1970 (46 years). But if you seriously think this regime is being cheap and not trying to win a championship, you are delusional. 31 other teams are trying also. As for the O-line, they paid a lot for Grubbs last year. It didn't work, because he was getting old and couldn't heal from a neck injury. Despite that, they acquired Schwartz at considerable expense, calculating rightfully that right tackle was crucial. Now they have maybe the best right tackle in the league, or close. How on earth can that be interpreted as playing it cheap or willing to settle for mediocrity? Your comment might have been close to right during some prior regimes, but there is no evidence that the current front office is not pulling out all the stops to construct a long-term powerhouse, rather than a one-year flash-in-the-pan team. I have watched this team get stronger and stronger, deeper and deeper, and has even risked league sanction for tampering to get a true playmaker WR. Teams willing to settle for mediocrity don't do those kinds of things. In fact, they may be too aggressive in trying to win (Tyreek Hill). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 "Quit yer whinin" is just an expression meaning "don't act like such a victim." Its easy to feel like a victim when we haven't won a championship since 1970 (46 years). But if you seriously think this regime is being cheap and not trying to win a championship, you are delusional. 31 other teams are trying also. As for the O-line, they paid a lot for Grubbs last year. It didn't work, because he was getting old and couldn't heal from a neck injury. Despite that, they acquired Schwartz at considerable expense, calculating rightfully that right tackle was crucial. Now they have maybe the best right tackle in the league, or close. How on earth can that be interpreted as playing it cheap or willing to settle for mediocrity? Your comment might have been close to right during some prior regimes, but there is no evidence that the current front office is not pulling out all the stops to construct a long-term powerhouse, rather than a one-year flash-in-the-pan team. I have watched this team get stronger and stronger, deeper and deeper, and has even risked league sanction for tampering to get a true playmaker WR. Teams willing to settle for mediocrity don't do those kinds of things. In fact, they may be too aggressive in trying to win (Tyreek Hill). Blah Blah Blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 As a wife might say, "Don't be using that logic stuff on me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 As a wife might say, "Don't be using that logic stuff on me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Blah Blah Blah You pesky Charger fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kychief 239 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 You restructure guys that want to win now. To late SD took action. KC content to simply be competitive while selling tickets. This regime does not care about a window to win it all. Just stay above average not great. There's room on the raider bandwagon for you. You should clean the sand out of your vagina and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Blah Blah Blah Free speech isn't free. Someone else is paying the bills here so you can act like a whiny little bitch. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and donate to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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