Bilyous2 884 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Remember an Oklahoma U. player named Marcus DuPree? His IQ and speaking skills make Hill sound like Winston Churchill. It also reminds me of a Cal. player (Chuck Muncie?) who played four years in college without ever entering a classroom. Don't have to have no smarts to play ball. Not in college. In the NFL you have to have at least some smarts to be coachable. DuPree's moves, speed, and hands were natural. And even that didn't get him any real success in the NFL. How many people in the NFL succeed who are dumb as dirt. You have to speak at least as well as Forrest Gump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 That, like Crow's, is a great summary. I feel better about Hogan, but that is about it. Besides the emotional issues, Hill amazes me by his language skills. How can anyone be in college and not be able to put any kind of grammar together? All of his brains went into his legs and feet. Fruit fly is a good longevity prognosis. I agree with your assessment of Robinson. Weed and football do not mix. It makes a person less driven and passionate. It takes the edge off. Makes a person too mellow....like Dwayne Bowe. And it hangs around for days. Slows reflexes a tiny bit and would make a receiver drop a few more catchable passes than if it were not in the system. It isn't metabolized quickly like alcohol. Even after days, some of it is still there in the system, affecting mental passion, drive, and motivation. It also means that there is less of a mental barrier to abuse of other things. It does decrease pain about like a couple of aspirin. That is good for all the bumps, bruises, and aches of football. But overall, it is a huge negative. Yeah, that stoner Houston has been just horrible. Weed is much safer than alcohol and I would rather these kids were doing that, if they have to have a vice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugsy 225 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 It is best to do both at the same time imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 It is best to do both at the same time imo. Exactly. By the way, SEMO. I'm not disputing anything you posted about weed vs. alcohol. I am only saying that weed has a longer half-life in the body and also takes the edge off aggression and obsessive motivation that football players depend on. My comments were only in the context of playing NFL football. Plus, in my limited reading, Russell has had weed detected more than once. This indicates a more chronic usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Exactly. By the way, SEMO. I'm not disputing anything you posted about weed vs. alcohol. I am only saying that weed has a longer half-life in the body and also takes the edge off aggression and obsessive motivation that football players depend on. My comments were only in the context of playing NFL football. Plus, in my limited reading, Russell has had weed detected more than once. This indicates a more chronic usage. Keep reading. It was all in his Freshman year. Don't think I agree with your assessments on weed at all. I know some people with cancer who would disagree with you equating its pain relief to aspirin. I also don't think the rest of your assessment is correct. Lots of high performance people and athletes who admit to smoking weed. Not sure where you're getting that. It's like saying you can't drink and hold down a job when millions do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 No intoxicant is without negative effects when it comes to playing a sport at a professional level. One with a long half-life is much more likely to still be on board by game time. BTW, the analgesic effect of THC is not very much. It just makes pain seem little funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Cannabis oil's anti-seizure properties are proven and kids who have suffered for years are now leading fairly normal lives because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Cannabis oil's anti-seizure properties are proven and kids who have suffered for years are now leading fairly normal lives because of it. Yes. It is highly effective for many types of seizures. The thing is that the most active form for seizures and other medical conditions are the cannabidiols, which don't make you high. The cannabinols do. Some of them are metabolized in the body into cannabidiols. But pharmaceutical cannabidiols will probably be marketed soon for many indications. Unfortunately they won't produce the "recreational" effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Hill, Robinson, Russell... All of these guys could be the next Marcus Peters..... They have that level of Talent. This could be a draft of the ages... It could easily be another Disaster. The Keys are Health ( Russell) and Staying Professional ( Robinson and Hill) Jones will be a good player no matter. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I like the Jones pick but somewhere in the recess of my mind is the Ryan Sims pick. Jones has the reputation of slacking off on some plays and hopefully his joy at the opportunity will overcome that. But like many said about Hill, players tend to revert to base character in many cases. If Jones is the monster he could be, then this draft could be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I like the Jones pick but somewhere in the recess of my mind is the Ryan Sims pick. Jones has the reputation of slacking off on some plays and hopefully his joy at the opportunity will overcome that. But like many said about Hill, players tend to revert to base character in many cases. If Jones is the monster he could be, then this draft could be very good. Immaturity. Like I have said before, the other lineman won't tolerate any slacking off. All high motor guys. Hali will be in his ear also. Count on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLchief 3,126 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Immaturity. Like I have said before, the other lineman won't tolerate any slacking off. All high motor guys. Hali will be in his ear also. Count on it. Agree. Totally different roster than the Simms days. I don't believe that shit will be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I think that is a very strong point Semo. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I like the Jones pick but somewhere in the recess of my mind is the Ryan Sims pick. Jones has the reputation of slacking off on some plays and hopefully his joy at the opportunity will overcome that. But like many said about Hill, players tend to revert to base character in many cases. If Jones is the monster he could be, then this draft could be very good. Couldn't agree more. He seems a bit too smiley and free-spirited and too interested in BBQ to be the kind of obsessive and aggressive guy that DT's need to be. I am concerned his great potential will disappear slowly in a plate of burnt ends, both on the plate and on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I will say that I would have preferred Vernon Butler considerably more. But, I will give Jones a significant amount of chances to succeed. It might take a year of two to reach his potential. It took Bailey a while, and Poe was not an instant success either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Agreed. D linemen seem to take a while for some reason. I would say LT and QB are do also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Some, not all, receivers and RBs are instant successes, but most players need NFL experience before becoming effective. DJ is a prime example and Poe and Howard are others. Nearly all O-linemen struggle at the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I think we may be reading too much into Jones wanting to sample BBQ n KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilyous2 884 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I think we may be reading too much into Jones wanting to sample BBQ n KC. No, we're not. My proof is sitting here at the computer posting on this board - I love barbecue, and I could never play D-line. So it is only logical that love of BBQ and not being able to play defensive end are highly correlated in my case. In fact, I would bet that every member of this forum who loves barbecue cannot play defensive line worth a shit. So I have the numbers to back me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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