eraser 722 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/6/15/11943210/albert-wilson-seeing-more-time-in-slot-for-kansas-city-chiefs Albert Wilson seeing more time in slot for Kansas City Chiefs?By Joel Thorman If you're a receiver in Andy Reid's offense, you’re going to play more than one position. You’ll be inside and you’ll be outside, you’ll run outs and you’ll ins. The Chiefs receivers are all over the place, which is part of the fun of Reid’s offense. That said, maybe we can expect a tweak heading into the 2016 season. Alex Smith was talking to the media this week and said something interesting about WR Albert Wilson — he’s seeing more time in the slot. "With Albert, it’s nice, we’ve moved him around a little bit this offseason, putting him in different situations, moving him inside more,” Alex said via quotes from the Chiefs. “So that’s been a new role for him. That’s a big plate there when you move inside, that’s a lot on your shoulders – especially mentally – and he’s handled it. Been good there, too.” Wilson is one of those smaller receivers at 5’9 but still 200 pounds so he fits the profile of what you think of when someone says slot receiver. However, Wilson ran most of his routes last year outside, not in the slot. Follow Joe Redemann @JayArr_FF Fun fact: Albert Wilson only ran 42 routes (10.8%) in the slot for#Chiefs last year. Had 0.5 Yd/Route more in slot than outside. 5:37 PM - 14 Jun 2016 Retweets likes Statistically, Wilson has been BETTER in the slot than outside by about half a yard per route. Again, though, small sample size. I would welcome this change if it sticks in the season. Wilson is a tough dude and has the thick body type to handle the physicality on the inside. Plus, this gets another receiver the Chiefs like onto the field. http://rotoviz.com/2014/03/2014s-most-underrated-albert-wilson/ Albert Wilson is incredibly quick, and agile. He is perfect for the slot. Wilson gets more release in short quarters than in longer releases. He needs to learn to sell out for passes. Sometimes, he didn't quite get his feet in bounds, and other times, he failed to stretch out for a pass. Playing inside could help. He has tremendous ability to run after the catch. Streater is longer, and can serve as a slot receiver. However, he also has the tools to play in the X, and Z, all because of his top end speed. Conley is fast, but performed poorly in the 3 cone, and short shuttle. This would lend one to believe he is best utilized at the Z position. At that spot, the receiver typically plays off the line of scrimmage, allowing the TE to be eligible. With his speed, Conley would be able to take better advantage of his 4.3 speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugsy 225 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I like it. I'd still keep him on the field in two WR formations but, play him in the slot when there are 3+. I think he could really break out this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Hopefully, Conley will nail down the #2 wideout so Wilson in the slot makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie 1,518 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Didn't see much from Conley last year. Think Streeter is our number two guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I thought Conley came on as the season progressed. I hope Streeter or Mike Williams have something left in the tank....but we have been down "False Hopes Blvd" many times with over the hill veteran WR's. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 The hated Tyreek Hill may have a say in the starting WR formulation. According to Paylor, and others, Of course, no pads are on, and no one is getting hit. So, he may not pan out at any level. However, his speed, ability to adjust to the ball, and hands would indicate you cannot factor him out. Currently, only Maclin has secured a starting spot. Maclin seems to be the X, or #1 receiver. I believe Wilson and Streater will share spots at the slot. Streater gains an advantage with his size. while Albert Wilson gains a full yard advantage on most defensive backs with his quickness. Conley seems to be almost strictly a z receiver as does Hill. Hill has exhibited alligator arms in college, when playing in the slot. Conley's combination of size and speed makes him a candidate. Hill's breakaway 4.2 speed makes him a candidate too. If I were the Chiefs, I would consider keeping DAT for pr and kr, and reserve Hill for z, except on special occasions, where Hill can provide an extra punch on a return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 So far so good with Mr. Hill but as we have heard, they are only running around in their underwear... w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Hill might be the most motivated rookie on the team since he has to prove himself worth the risk. That doesn't make him a starter at WR. He'll most likely be the returner and do a few plays on offense like DAT or McCluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I think Streeter at #2 and Wlison in the slot. Hope Connely steps up and takes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I'm pretty hopeful about Conley. Tons of players with skill don't show much their first seasons. Conley is reported to be very smart and has the tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 Conley, and Wilson worked out a lot during the in between season, and it apparently paid dividends. Reid seems to like Wilson in the slot, and Conley at the Z. Maclin is the X. Streater is getting a lot of snaps at the slot, behind Wilson. If he makes the team, it could be there. Cook was having a good OTA until he got injured, and had to have surgery. Mathews may have a shot at making the team, but is more likely destined to find his shot on thee practice team. Demarcus Robinson is likely a shoe in, as is either Tyreek Hill or De'Anthony Thomas. The Chiefs kept three TEs and 6 WRs last year. Although, they did bring up Parker to fill in at TE for O'Shaughnessy, when he was lost for the rest of the season. My opinion Starters - Maclin - X, Wilson - S, Conley - Z Reserves - Robinson - X/Z, Streater - S Utility/KR/PR - Hill On the fence DAT DAT makes the team two ways. First, he has to be impressive in preseason. Otherwise, all bets are off. If he meets that qualification, he can make it if Hill disappears when the action is for real. He may also make it if Hill does incredibly well at WR. If Hill is a superstar at Z/X/S, there is no way they waste him on special teams, especially if DAT returns to his former self A word about DAT. DAT was lost last season. He pumped up his styles, and designs as if he was the next Russell Simmons. He needed to concentrate on football. If he finds this key, which is keeping the #1 thing #1, then he may be an asset, rather than the first three letters of that word. Also, don't be surprised if the Chiefs keep 4 Tight Ends. They will keep Kelce, and Harris. O'Shaughnessy, and Travis will be competing for the last position, and Parker is not that bad either. Travis may be really good. He may have jumped past Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cali Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Watch out for mike Williams. Guy was a star in the making in Tampa. Great rookie year. Not sure what happened after that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Watch out for mike Williams. Guy was a star in the making in Tampa. Great rookie year. Not sure what happened after that.... ThugLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 The Chiefs do have options at WR. They are probably in better shape than they have been in a while. I did not mention Mike Williams. He was suspended 6 games while at Buffalo, and really did not do much afterwards. New England brought him in, and did not sign him. So, is he going to add much, or even make the team? I would not count on it, but anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Watch out for mike Williams. Guy was a star in the making in Tampa. Great rookie year. Not sure what happened after that.... His quarterback in his solid 2010 and 2012 seasons was Josh Freeman. In 2010 he played across from a healthy Kellen Winslow. In 2012, Vincent Jackson was Tampa Bay's shiny new free agent acquisition. As a support player, Williams was grossly overpaid on his extension, and I don't think he was ready for the pressure that came with the expectations commensurate with his contract. He's getting a fresh start. If he's healthy, in football condition, and mentally ready, he'll be playing with the most talented offensive squad he's ever had, and he could be a big boon for a quarterback with plenty of experience throwing to possession receivers. The problem here is that Williams has been out of football for a while, and sometimes the switch sticks when you try to get it back in the 'on' position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cali Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 His quarterback in his solid 2010 and 2012 seasons was Josh Freeman. In 2010 he played across from a healthy Kellen Winslow. In 2012, Vincent Jackson was Tampa Bay's shiny new free agent acquisition. As a support player, Williams was grossly overpaid on his extension, and I don't think he was ready for the pressure that came with the expectations commensurate with his contract. He's getting a fresh start. If he's healthy, in football condition, and mentally ready, he'll be playing with the most talented offensive squad he's ever had, and he could be a big boon for a quarterback with plenty of experience throwing to possession receivers. The problem here is that Williams has been out of football for a while, and sometimes the switch sticks when you try to get it back in the 'on' position. For sure. He has all the skills. If this guy returns to form, Watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Williams has shown that he once "had it". The first question the Chiefs have to ask is "Does he still want it?" then it comes down to "Can he still do it?" Trouble we have is that he has yet to take the field....We don't know if KC new he was hurt and this is part of the plan or if the guy is just wasting time. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie 1,518 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I think Streeter at #2 and Wlison in the slot. Hope Connely steps up and takes it. Agree. Streeter has the goods. Wilson perhaps in the slot. Conley needs to show a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 History suggests it takes about 3 years for most receivers to blossom in Reid's system. This is year 3 for Wilson and year 2 for Conley. I would only expect incremental improvement for Conley, which is what we saw from Wilson last year. 30 catches would be nice. Wilson though needs to make a big jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I don't see the appeal of Wilson in the slot. You want someone with good hands and will make tough catches in that role, and that's not how I'd describe Albert Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugsy 225 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I don't have much faith in Conley. I have watched every snap he's ever played in college or pro. He's just not that good. We really over drafted him imo. I don't think Streater will do anything and I don't think Williams will either. He's lost speed. I think Wilson will be the #2 and play in the slot in three WR sets. They will rotate the fast guys as the #2 in the the three WR sets. I think Conley, Robinson, and Hill will rotate out there. This will open the underneath routes to Wilson and Maclin. It will also free up the RB because it will keep the safeties honest. I have serious doubts that Streater or Williams will make the roster. Especially if Wilson steps up like I think he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie 1,518 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Wilson has the most to prove. He is in year #3 now and he has not shown much ability to make the tough catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Agreed Wilky. We have heard a lot about him tearing it up on the practice field, but not much in the games. I am he shows something this year. I think it will be in the slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil 243 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Unless he shows up big in camp and takes the #2 spot definitively, I think Streater gets axed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie 1,518 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Streater is an upgrade from Wilson I MHOP. When does Conley start showing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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