KC Warpaint 3,235 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/9/14/12913196/chiefs-get-6m-in-cap-space-by-re-working-justin-houston-s-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just to irk PhataLerror: What a professional! Taking a pay cut for the team!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just to irk PhataLerror: What a professional! Taking a pay cut for the team!! Yep. Love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Well done by the player and the team. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Louis Vasquez is a RG, but he is available, and may be able to play LG.. Mike Neal is a decent OLB who was released by GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just to irk PhataLerror: What a professional! Taking a pay cut for the team!! Not exactly a pay cut. Part of this year's salary turned into bonus money which can be spread out over future years. Houston still get the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Who wouldn't want their money now, and help the club by spreading out the bonus over the entirety of the contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Dorsey is wise.They could have worked Houston's contract this way to start. Dorsey keeps the CAP tight, and then finds ways to create space. Doing this helps leverage contracts. It also allows the Chiefs to make future deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Marcus Peters is deep into the BLM deception. He was torched last Sunday. There is a problem at CB. The Chiefs may need to bring in another CB in case things turn worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Not exactly a pay cut. Part of this year's salary turned into bonus money which can be spread out over future years. Houston still get the money. I know, I said that to irk PhataLerror. He has been a vocal minority against signing Houstonat all costs and he has brought up the misconception of Tom Brady taking a pay cut a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Marcus Peters is deep into the BLM deception. He was torched last Sunday. There is a problem at CB. The Chiefs may need to bring in another CB in case things turn worse. I think Emmitt Thomas knows what he's doing. I just figured that Peters read too many of his own press clippings and got a big head..getting burnt this early was just the right medicine for a swollen head..now if this keeps on for another 2-3 weeks then I'd say we got a problem. I think Peters needs some guidance back there one reason Berry was signed because of his leadership abilities Berry has been gone. In my yearly record prediction I called for the Defense to be a bit lost and needed time to jell. I see nothing in this first game to say I was mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Man some of you guys are nutty as hell. Keenan Allen is a really good WR and Peters isn't a real good CB without any pass-rush, which they struggled to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Peters will be fine. Gained is better than I thought he would be at this point. If we spend money, I hope it is OLB for some pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Man some of you guys are nutty as hell. Keenan Allen is a really good WR and Peters isn't a real good CB without any pass-rush, which they struggled to get. You can say that about 90 percent of all corners in today's in NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 You can say that about 90 percent of all corners in today's in NFL. Pretty much, but Peters game is tied to a qb getting hurried and being baited into making that risky pass. Other corners just rely on solid coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I know, I said that to irk PhataLerror. He has been a vocal minority against signing Houstonat all costs and he has brought up the misconception of Tom Brady taking a pay cut a few times. Huh? Tom Brady actually did take a pay cut so that his team could keep talent. You only have to look at his average salary by year to see that. The misconception is that the common practice of restructuring contracts by converting current-year base salary into signing bonus is somehow "team-friendly" in the sense of reducing a team's overall cap liabilities. Tom Brady's current contract is positively less-than-market. Justin Houston's cap number in 2017 will be $22,100,000. This is not OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Huh? Tom Brady actually did take a pay cut so that his team could keep talent. You only have to look at his average salary by year to see that. The misconception is that the common practice of restructuring contracts by converting current-year base salary into signing bonus is somehow "team-friendly" in the sense of reducing a team's overall cap liabilities. Tom Brady's current contract is positively less-than-market. Justin Houston's cap number in 2017 will be $22,100,000. This is not OK. My mistake, but my original post was an inside joke. (Yes, what we owe him is not a joke. Or is it? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 My mistake, but my original post was an inside joke. (Yes, what we owe him is not a joke. Or is it? ) I got the jab, but then you ruined it with the Tom Brady reference. Execution, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The Chiefs reworked Houston's contract. They get more cap space this year at a cost of less cap space in the future. OK, spend it already. They need a OLB, especially if Houston does not return. Maybe they are waiting until teams figure they won't make a run this year, and right before the trade deadline. The Chiefs have a need for an OLB, but who can they get? I cannot believe they're saving this money for extra cap space next year. If that was the case, they would have made the move this spring instead of doing it now. I believe there has to be a move upcoming. Just can't tell with whom, and can't tell when. Likely soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 They have to get help with the pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 It won't be easy. Teams aren't often willing to get rid of 3-4 pass rushing OLB. I can think of none, who are currently without a team. Most all who could help are locked up with contracts that would prohibit them from being traded due to cap issues. The Chiefs have to get by with Ford, and Hali. Hali is getting old. He is not getting it done. Last year, he didn't get it going for four weeks. So, maybe he will take a few more games to get it going. Ford is not going to get more flexible as he ages, he just is not. Ford is what you see. He cannot bend the corner, and he won't be able to... ever. Houston may be able to get back. We hope he can. This is an issue, and the Chiefs did not address it in the draft. Don't blame KC, because there weren't any. The top 3-4 OLB was Leonard Floyd, who was taken by Chicago with the their first selection, the 9th player in the draft. Floyd is not flexible. He might be worse than Ford when it comes to bending around a corner. Kevin Dodd was picked before the Chiefs pick when they traded back. He has good bend, but is not quick. Spence and a few others may turn out to become decent rush OLB, but they are regarded a lot further away. There are no simple answers. Guys like Justin Houston do not fall in your lap... not usually. That is why the Chiefs paid a lot of money to lock him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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