FANATIC 852 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/1/13/14168964/checking-in-on-the-chiefs-2015-draft-class Ok that is impressive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/1/13/14168964/checking-in-on-the-chiefs-2015-draft-class Ok that is impressive... John Dorsey has done well with the roster. In addition to the information in the article to linked: 2013: Nico Johnson and Sanders Commings didn't make a team this year, Eric Kush has been gone since 2014 but has started four games this year for the Chicago Bears, Braden Wilson never made it to the regular season anywhere, and Mike Catapano stayed with the Chiefs through 2014 before heading to the New York Jets, where he started four games this season. Knile Davis also disappointed. However, both Eric Fisher and Travis Kelce have developed into two of the Chiefs' better players, and the inability for some of those earlier players to stick centered more around the quality of talent that Dorsey added in free agency in 2013 along with the little talent that did exist on the roster when he arrived, a list that includes Ron Parker, Rodney Hudson, Anthony Sherman, and Allen Bailey. 2014: Dee Ford looks like a player that ought to be given an extension and will replace Tamba Hali. Due to his fragile injury history, Phillip Gaines seems to be the miss in the draft, and conspicuously so since the Chiefs only picked six times that year, but when he's been on the field, he's been more than serviceable. De'Anthony Thomas has been a solid special teams player, has occasionally had an offensive impact, and is only on the field less than he is because he has been superseded by Tyreek Hill, a guy with all of Thomas' talent along with a more developed football skill set. Aaron Murray lasted a couple of years on the Chiefs' roster, and at least managed to find a role on the Eagles' practice squad after being released by the Chiefs following their acquisition of backup quarterback Nick Foles in free agency. Zach Fulton and Laurent Duvernay-Tardif are not the best interior offensive linemen one can find in the league, but they are quality backups, with Fulton's versatility and Duvernay-Tardif's nastiness being bonuses you often don't reap from sixth-round selections. John Dorsey came to Kansas City with a lot of work to do after the roster he took on had managed a 2-14 record the season before. To what extent has Dorsey turned over the roster? Of the 53 players currently active, only Eric Berry, Dustin Colquitt, Tamba Hali, Justin Houston, and Dontari Poe remain from prior teams (yes, zero healthy offensive players remain on the roster from the pre-Dorsey era). The 48 other players that are on the active roster today because of John Dorsey's work are a big part of the reason this Chiefs team is where it is today, and he accomplished this turnover with the benefit of only one draft where the Chiefs resided in the top half of the order (and then without the benefit of a second-round pick from each of his first two years along with a third-round pick that was lost due to a penalty for tampering) and Dorsey accomplished this while navigating some significant restrictions imposed by the franchise's prior mismanagement of the salary cap. John Dorsey is perhaps one of the premier General Managers of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 was that really Dorsey/Reid or more Ballard & Reid?..we'll never know unless Dorsey is let to go to GB and we keep Ballard..that might be a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 was that really Dorsey/Reid or more Ballard & Reid?..we'll never know unless Dorsey is let to go to GB and we keep Ballard..that might be a clue Questions like this are very simple to answer: Dorsey hired Ballard as a subordinate, and therefore Dorsey deserves the credit for bringing in the talent that finds talent. You don't have to be the best. You only have to be able to identify the best and then bring them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 was that really Dorsey/Reid or more Ballard & Reid?..we'll never know unless Dorsey is let to go to GB and we keep Ballard..that might be a clue Neither. It's because of the team that Dorsey assembled. For example, it was an area scout that stumped for both Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill. Both had significant question marks before the draft but Dorsey has final say and had the guts to pull the trigger on both. Every other GM in the league passed on both guys, as each had the talent to be drafted higher. Ballard is in the chain between the scouts and Dorsey. Who knows how much credit each deserves. Usually drafts are a team effort though. Even Reid does some draft review. I do know this though, if those drafts would have sucked, we'd all be blaming Dorsey, not Ballard. Credit where credit is due. We need to keep Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Neither. It's because of the team that Dorsey assembled. For example, it was an area scout that stumped for both Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill. Both had significant question marks before the draft but Dorsey has final say and had the guts to pull the trigger on both. Every other GM in the league passed on both guys, as each had the talent to be drafted higher. Ballard is in the chain between the scouts and Dorsey. Who knows how much credit each deserves. Usually drafts are a team effort though. Even Reid does some draft review. I do know this though, if those drafts would have sucked, we'd all be blaming Dorsey, not Ballard. Credit where credit is due. We need to keep Dorsey. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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