Calichief 3,016 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Was made the lone OC while Childress becomes assistant HC. However, we all know this is a joke/diversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Reid called the plays last year, even though there were co-offensive coordinators. Nagy was a quarterback for Delaware under the renowned head coach Tubby Raymond, and his offensive coordinator, Ted Kempski (34 years together). They ran the Delaware Wing-T offense. The old Wing -T was a mixture of the T formation, and the single wing. From this, LaVell Edwards developed the West Coast offense, which gained popularity under Bill Walsh. It is what was also developed into the Wildcat formation, made popular by Steve Spurrier, and later refined by Bill Snider. Nagy did not have the skills to play in the NFL, but was picked up by Philadelphia by Reid to be a back up/coaching intern. The NFL decided his role was not legal. Reid thought enough of Nagy to make him a full time coach. Nagy has been tutored by Andy Reid for the past 9 years. His role is not to change Andy Reid's offense, or call plays during the games. He is there to implement Andy Reid's offense in practice, and to make sure Reid gets feedback during the game. That is why he is in the booth. Andy Reid was not the reason for the failures of the offense. The biggest issue was poor execution. This is due to Alex Smith missing plays, the Offensive line (mostly on the left side), and hiccups with wide receivers. Brad Childress was an exceptional college coach under Barry Alvarez. His background was working with quarterbacks, and offensive coordinator. Childress was the QB coach, and offensive coordinator under Reid for seven years. He became head coach for the Vikings, and was one of the reasons Brett Favre came to play for the Vikings. He was asked to step down, and joined Cleveland for one year, before rejoining Andy Reid at Kansas City. Andy Reid was forced to give up calling offensive plays in Philadelphia. He was also the general manager there, and those duties were stripped from him. During this time, Reid was under massive personal issues, and pressures from the Philadelphia area. When he came to Kansas City, he was given the opportunity to pick his own general manager. He acknowledged the need to hire a GM, but kept all other duties. Reid reports directly to Clark Hunt. Reid has groomed Nagy to become an OC, but if you think Andy Reid is going to give up control, you would be wrong. It's Reid's show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPPT1974 21 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Yeah as really when you are just the H.C. you can concentrate on running your team. Not worry about the operations of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Yeah as really when you are just the H.C. you can concentrate on running your team. Not worry about the operations of it. A HC is really the CEO of the team. He is responsible for what happens below him. If the DC or OC screws up, the HC is ultimately held responsible. A good HC does not micromanage, but he is highly involved in the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 Reid called the plays last year, even though there were co-offensive coordinators. Nagy was a quarterback for Delaware under the renowned head coach Tubby Raymond, and his offensive coordinator, Ted Kempski (34 years together). They ran the Delaware Wing-T offense. The old Wing -T was a mixture of the T formation, and the single wing. From this, LaVell Edwards developed the West Coast offense, which gained popularity under Bill Walsh. It is what was also developed into the Wildcat formation, made popular by Steve Spurrier, and later refined by Bill Snider. Nagy did not have the skills to play in the NFL, but was picked up by Philadelphia by Reid to be a back up/coaching intern. The NFL decided his role was not legal. Reid thought enough of Nagy to make him a full time coach. Nagy has been tutored by Andy Reid for the past 9 years. His role is not to change Andy Reid's offense, or call plays during the games. He is there to implement Andy Reid's offense in practice, and to make sure Reid gets feedback during the game. That is why he is in the booth. Andy Reid was not the reason for the failures of the offense. The biggest issue was poor execution. This is due to Alex Smith missing plays, the Offensive line (mostly on the left side), and hiccups with wide receivers. Brad Childress was an exceptional college coach under Barry Alvarez. His background was working with quarterbacks, and offensive coordinator. Childress was the QB coach, and offensive coordinator under Reid for seven years. He became head coach for the Vikings, and was one of the reasons Brett Favre came to play for the Vikings. He was asked to step down, and joined Cleveland for one year, before rejoining Andy Reid at Kansas City. Andy Reid was forced to give up calling offensive plays in Philadelphia. He was also the general manager there, and those duties were stripped from him. During this time, Reid was under massive personal issues, and pressures from the Philadelphia area. When he came to Kansas City, he was given the opportunity to pick his own general manager. He acknowledged the need to hire a GM, but kept all other duties. Reid reports directly to Clark Hunt. Reid has groomed Nagy to become an OC, but if you think Andy Reid is going to give up control, you would be wrong. It's Reid's show. E He had some poor poor games calling plays. They had some very bad game plans too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eraser 722 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 E He had some poor poor games calling plays. They had some very bad game plans too. Some, but you aren't going to change that. A lot of the poor play calling was really poor execution or Reid trying to compensate for Alex Smith's weaknesses. Reid had a number of go to routes, where Smith was asked to make a play without hesitation. That is because Reid knows Smith does not have the ability to make quick decisions. Therefore, Reid took the decision making out of his hands. I cannot tell you how many times Alex Smith missed open players. Jah Reid was pathetic, and Fulton was nearly as bad. They just could not make the plays. Ehinger was not thought to be particularly good. According to NFL profile, he lacked core strength, and was thought to be a 6th or 7th round pick. He had a 5.18 rating, which is not good It shocked everyone the Chiefs took him in the 4th round. The year before, Mitch Morse was regarded only slightly better, with a 5.61 rating. Most had him going in the 3rd or 4th rounds. He had short arms, and is a bit stiff. The Chiefs confounded everyone by taking Morse in the second round. The Chiefs' staff have done a fantastic job developing players. Jah Reid, and Zach Fulton are not good enough to play on the Chiefs. They have to make changes. Tyreek Hill was a surprise, but he has a lot of work to do before he is a complete player. The Chiefs are a good team that gets more out of their talent than most teams. They exceeded my expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Some, but you aren't going to change that. A lot of the poor play calling was really poor execution or Reid trying to compensate for Alex Smith's weaknesses. Reid had a number of go to routes, where Smith was asked to make a play without hesitation. That is because Reid knows Smith does not have the ability to make quick decisions. Therefore, Reid took the decision making out of his hands. I cannot tell you how many times Alex Smith missed open players. Jah Reid was pathetic, and Fulton was nearly as bad. They just could not make the plays. Ehinger was not thought to be particularly good. According to NFL profile, he lacked core strength, and was thought to be a 6th or 7th round pick. He had a 5.18 rating, which is not good It shocked everyone the Chiefs took him in the 4th round. The year before, Mitch Morse was regarded only slightly better, with a 5.61 rating. Most had him going in the 3rd or 4th rounds. He had short arms, and is a bit stiff. The Chiefs confounded everyone by taking Morse in the second round. The Chiefs' staff have done a fantastic job developing players. Jah Reid, and Zach Fulton are not good enough to play on the Chiefs. They have to make changes. Tyreek Hill was a surprise, but he has a lot of work to do before he is a complete player. The Chiefs are a good team that gets more out of their talent than most teams. They exceeded my expectations. How dare you blame Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 How dare you blame Alex. When most people are blaming him, amongst others, and just one or two people defend, it gets a bit obnoxious to mention this nearly every time somebody blames Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 As long as people are writing "blame", "Alex Smith", "Offensive Line", and "Receiver Corps" all in the same sentence, with no weighting of blame toward any one of those, I have no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I had an epiphany towards the end of the season. If you get first and goal inside the 5, you pound it down their throats. You get tricky and cute. Well they did that more in the last quarter of the season. One time I think we had first and goal on the one and pounded Ware (a big strong back) 3 times and didn't get an inch. Maybe Andy isn't as dumb as I thought he was. We need to really get tougher on the line. Fish and Mitch are OK. But the rest of the line is weak and doesn't communicate well. Morse has got to keep his weight up. Grunny said he got down in the 260s during the season. The guards are very weak. The rook coming back helps, but he is not dominate by any means. I would love to see one of two high round (1-3) guards come out of the draft. I think it is our biggest weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 RT is pretty solid too. I agree with you DH, OL-line needs to generate positive line push consistently. Nagy is a huge Alex Smith supporter so it will be interesting to see how he changes things one way or another. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Yes, I think RT is our strongest spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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