Berry signs

[SEMO 6,811]

Spending your top pick, when you have no run D and really need a QB to develop, wouldn't be the best move.

 

Peppers is more athlete than football player.

Disagree.  Peppers would help the run D.

 

He will be gone anyway.

[liquidfriend 1,151]

Couldn't disagree more.

 

I think Peppers really might struggle a lot early on. He can be slow to recognize what an Offense is doing and can be caught getting too aggressive.

 

Tries to drop his head when making a stop which is a definite no. Too small to have a role as a LB.

 

Dude really doesn't have shit for instincts. He relied on his AA to race down and try to make the stop after the Offense has already made a move.

 

Guy is a project who would probably be a better pro player with the ball in his hands, instead.

[DefensiveMan 758]

Couldn't disagree more.

 

I think Peppers really might struggle a lot early on. He can be slow to recognize what an Offense is doing and can be caught getting too aggressive.

 

Tries to drop his head when making a stop which is a definite no. Too small to have a role as a LB.

 

Dude really doesn't have shit for instincts. He relied on his AA to race down and try to make the stop after the Offense has already made a move.

 

Guy is a project who would probably be a better pro player with the ball in his hands, instead.

 

Kid from a big name school. Over-hyped in my opinion. Buddha Baker just as good if not better.

[robgar 1,046]

yep but the kid from the big name school will go b4 the other guy..

[eraser 722]

If Peppers is there at 27, I would run my card to the table.  He is a game changer and a major upgrade over Parker, maybe even Berry.  Parker is good and I like him.  But, he plays nickel a lot anyway.  Berry, Parker and Peppers on the field together...Our dime defense would be absolutely sick.

I would have Peppers handle returns, and use him as a nickel or sub him for a LB in passing situations. His versatility will allow a team to change defensive formations without subbing a lot of personnel.

 

I would definitely not replace Berry or Parker for Peppers. Peppers plus Parker, plus Berry, plus Nelson, plus Peters is what is exciting. That many ball hawks in the secondary would make teams hesitant.

[eraser 722]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article136600898.html

My projection

Year 1   $2.5 M Salary   $3.33 M prorated bonus   $5.8 cap hit,    dead money $40 M,   savings/loss ($34.2 M)

Year 2  $8.8 M Salary  $3.33 M prorated bonus    $12.1 cap hit,   dead money $34.2 M,  savings/loss (28.3 M)

Year 3  $9.9 M Salary  $3.33 M prorated bonus    $13.2 cap hit,   dead money $22.1 M, savings/ loss ($18.2 M)

Year 4  $10.8 M Salary  $3.33 M prorated bonus    $14.1 cap hit,  dead money $10.0 M, savings/loss $800 K

Year 5  $12.1 M Salary  $3.33 M prorated bonus    $15.4 cap hit    dead money $6.66 M savings/loss $5.3 M

Year 6  $14.1 M Salary  $3.33 M prorated bonus    $17.4 cap hit,   dead money $3.33 M  savings/loss $10.9 M

 

Actual

▪ Berry’s contract is for six years and $78 million. It includes $40 million guaranteed and a $20 million signing bonus, the richest ever given to a NFL defensive back.

The first-year cap number is $5 million. It includes a base salary of $900,000 and a workout bonus of $100,000.

Berry’s cap numbers are as follows: $13 million in 2018, $16.5 million in 2019, $13.5 million in 2020, $16 million in 2021 and $14 million in 2022. He has workout bonuses of $100,000 each year.

Berry’s $20 million signing bonus is prorated through 2021, meaning the first year the Chiefs could actually save real cap room by releasing him is in 2019, when they’d create about $4.5 million in space.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article136600898.html#storylink=cpy

 

Year   Estimate CapHit   Actual CapHit   Est Cap Savings/Loss   Actual Cap Savings/Loss

2017    $5,800,000           $5,000,000       ($34,200,000)               ($24,800,000)

2018    $12,100,000         $13,000,000     ($28,300,000)               ($11,900,000)

2019    $13,200,000         $16,500,000     ($18,200,000)                  $4,500,000

2020    $14,100,000         $13,500,000        $800,000                       $5,500,000

2021    $15,400,000         $16,000,000       $5,300,000                    $12,000,000

2022    $17,400,000         $14,000,000      $10,900,000                   $14,000,000

 

I made some errors in my original calculations of est cap savings/loss. Dorsey did a lot better than I anticipated. This is a very good deal for the Chiefs. The cap hit for 2017 is a $800 K less than I anticipated. The cap hit for 2018 is $900 K more than I presumed. The Chiefs can part with Berry in 2019 if he is no longer worth his contract. They can also decide to reconstruct his contract at that time in order to retain him if they both wish. I presumed that would not happen until two years later. Part of that is on a math error on my part (did a lot of this on the fly in my head), and part is because Dorsey is apparently a much better than average negotiator.

 

http://overthecap.com/player/eric-berry/504

[PhataLerror 370]

I thought I would hate his contract more than I do. I don't think it's a contract favorable to the Chiefs - a best-in-league contract is never favorable. However, the element I like most involves the lack of sunk cost after two seasons.

 

If the Chiefs reach 2019 and don't think Berry is worth his cap number, he can be cut with a cap savings of $4.5 million, and his total cost against the cap at that point will have been $30 million. After a third year, his cost per year will have been about $14.1 million. At year four, he would have cost only $13 million per year.

 

It's still far, far too much money to pay a safety, but I thought this was going to be much worse.