West 6,713 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Denny Medley/USA TODAY Sports Patrick Mahomes II's talent beginning to show up for Chiefs Patrick Mahomes II made some of his best throws of the offseason Wednesday. But just as impressive -- the way the rookie QB didn't appear satisfied.Adam Teicher ESPN Staff Writer Rookie quarterback Pat Mahomes II had his best day at Chiefs practice on Wednesday. Mahomes made a number of good throws, including one deep down the right sideline that rookie wide receiver Marcus Kemp went high to grab. Last week, quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy said he thought Mahomes' talent would begin to show more as he grew more comfortable with the offensive system and perhaps that's what's happening. "It definitely was a good day," Mahomes said. "It's all about putting these good days back to back and not having bad days." The Chiefs, who conclude their offseason work Thursday with the end of their three-day mini-camp, practiced without safety Eric Berry, who has a sore heel. share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 Title was a bit off: Thought was that I hope Mahommes goes into the Preseason as the #2 QB. He should get all the snaps possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Title was a bit off: Thought was that I hope Mahommes goes into the Preseason as the #2 QB. He should get all the snaps possible. And comes out of preseason #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 Its all about performance and if he comes out as number 1 he will be a superstar in the making..... We can all hope. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 10 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 He won't even be the #2 after training camp, give the kid a chance to learn like Aaron Rodgers did so when his time comes he's ready! You want to just throw him out there so he can be damaged like David Carr behind our ok Oline and never amount to anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Bray will be the perma 2. In short, if Alex gets hurt than Mahomes will probably start and Bray will continue to be the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcchief4lif 910 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 He won't even be the #2 after training camp, give the kid a chance to learn like Aaron Rodgers did so when his time comes he's ready! You want to just throw him out there so he can be damaged like David Carr behind our ok Oline and never amount to anything? Or he could be the next russel wilson. We have no idea what's about to take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Mahomes will be the #2. They only dress 2 QBs and they need him for n the sideline to learn. Bray is playing for a spot as the #3 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 I think you are right DH. and for the record, I have not heard anyone want to "throw Mahommes into the fire". I have heard folks with very high expectations for this kid in the coming YEARS. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 He won't even be the #2 after training camp, give the kid a chance to learn like Aaron Rodgers did so when his time comes he's ready! You want to just throw him out there so he can be damaged like David Carr behind our ok Oline and never amount to anything? You guys really need to realize that this is not the same online of years past. KCs line was 5th lowest in the league when it came to QB hits allowed. And that was with Alex running a ton less than he had in the past. While I agree that 2PM needs to be brought in slowly, I'm not going to say that it's the olines fault that he will fail if brought in early... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 You guys really need to realize that this is not the same online of years past. KCs line was 5th lowest in the league when it came to QB hits allowed. And that was with Alex running a ton less than he had in the past. While I agree that 2PM needs to be brought in slowly, I'm not going to say that it's the olines fault that he will fail if brought in early... Yes. Pass blocking was solid. Run game needs to grow leaps and bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 605 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Mahomes will be the #2. They only dress 2 QBs and they need him for n the sideline to learn. Bray is playing for a spot as the #3 IMO. He would still be able to be on the sideline to watch and learn or if he were not dressed. I'd keep Bray at #2 to begin the season and if Smith gets hurt and Bray continues we'll, we'd know he's a good backup or could trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 If Mahomes is the best QB on the roster, start him. This isn't the Browns, it's a playoff team. AA will be sufficient as a back up this season then ditch him and his salary next year and find a long-term clipboard holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QB Hits and Pressures do not absolutely correlate inversely to opportunities to throw from a clean pocket. Just a friendly reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Start Mahommes and trade Alex Smith to the Jets for Sheldon Richardson and a draft pick, the fact they let Maclin go IMO this could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 It could happen. I don't think it is best for Mahomes or the Chiefs though. Let the line grow. Let Hunt grow. Let Hill grow. Mahomes could be mentally prepared and take over a very solid offense next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I just hope they don't change too much about him. He's got that rare ability that I've only seen out of Johnny Maziel in awhile. Fortunately he has the size, arm talent and work ethic that Manziel lacked and he didn't get drafted to Syria (Cleveland). If he wasn't on an awful TT squad, we never would of had a shot at him. I think he's going to be the star that I thought JFF would become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I just hope they don't change too much about him. He's got that rare ability that I've only seen out of Johnny Maziel in awhile. Fortunately he has the size, arm talent and work ethic that Manziel lacked and he didn't get drafted to Syria (Cleveland). If he wasn't on an awful TT squad, we never would of had a shot at him. I think he's going to be the star that I thought JFF would become. JFF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I'd reckon it stands for Johnny F'n Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonschnitz 130 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 And comes out of preseason #1 Impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 And comes out of preseason #1In your wildest dreams. Unless Smith pulls a Trent in preseason Mahomes will be lucky to see the field this year outside of possible cleanup duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 In your wildest dreams. Unless Smith pulls a Trent in preseason Mahomes will be lucky to see the field this year outside of possible cleanup duty. I can dream. We've seen what AA is capable of. May the best QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I can dream. We've seen what AA is capable of. May the best QB play.Yep, I watched him out duel Drew Brees and Eli Manning in 2011 only to come up short due to two muffed kick returns. Vs Brees: 103.2 rating vs 93.5, 3 TDs to 0 Ints for Smith / 4 TDs to 2 Ints for Brees. Brees had Colston, Sproles and Graham to throw to, Smith had Crybaby Tree, Davis and Gore. Vs Manning: 97.6 rating vs 82.3, both ended up with 2 TDs to 0 Ints. Manning had Cruz, Nicks and Bradshaw to throw to, Smith had Crybaby Tree, Davis and Gore. Big difference, Kyle Williams muffs a kick on SF 29 in the 4th quarter which leads to NYG TD. Then in OT, Kyle Williams again fumbles a return and this time the Giants only need a FG to win and go to the SB. So what does this mean? Smith can lead a team to the SB if everyone does their part and with lesser players than their opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Another tidbit about Smith, everyone says that he has hit his ceiling. What's funny is he has only improved every season he has been in KC so how is that already hitting his ceiling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Another tidbit about Smith, everyone says that he has hit his ceiling. What's funny is he has only improved every season he has been in KC so how is that already hitting his ceiling? Last year was not an improvement. And Improving from Below average, to average, to slightly above average is not something to cheer. IMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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