sith13 1,746 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 alex smith mvp2017. heard it here first. If he was on some other team or had a different name I could see that happening but I doubt the media gives him that much love. Obviously a rookie RB breaking records is more important news for them but still there's almost no recognition for Smith. Even Goff is getting more love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Even Goff is getting more love. It's one of the reasons players don't like playing in KC, small market players get very little love unless they do something they can't ignore. Mediocrity is rewarded in big market coastal areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12go4kcinva 22 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Didn't Alex at one time have Bowe, Breaston and another WR that started with a B to throw to? I thought with those wrs along with JC it was a formula for some downfield action. It shouldn't take Mahomes breathing down his neck to step up his game...if it's here now..it was there then in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Didn't Alex at one time have Bowe, Breaston and another WR that started with a B to throw to? I thought with those wrs along with JC it was a formula for some downfield action. It shouldn't take Mahomes breathing down his neck to step up his game...if it's here now..it was there then in my opinion. Breaston didn't play with Smith, I think you are referring to Avery who was a decent deep ball threat and Smith did connect with him in some nice throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Go back and watch the 9er playoff game vs the G men I was at that game.... Manning & Smith put on a QB clinic. 9er Dude does not fumble a punt at the end of the game & Smith might already have a SB ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Where's handswarmer and his Flacco avatar? He'z bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Hands and Frandz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 It's one of the reasons players don't like playing in KC, small market players get very little love unless they do something they can't ignore. Mediocrity is rewarded in big market coastal areas. Maybe poor weather and in the middle of nowhere is also a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Breaston didn't play with Smith, I think you are referring to Avery who was a decent deep ball threat and Smith did connect with him in some nice throws. Except that Avery was terrible as a WR1. He was targeted on all three of Smith's interceptions in the week one game Bowe missed because of a drug suspension. Fortunately, that event also let the Chiefs get out of the Bowe contract. The receiver corps Smith has now may be the best he's ever had. (Crabtree, Moss, Manningham, Davis, Walker, and Gore in 2012 were solid for their experience, but Hill, Conley, Kelce, and Hunt have talent where they lack experience.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Where's handswarmer and his Flacco avatar? He'z bad I don't know that we'll see him again until the Chiefs lose. I worked him over pretty badly last time he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Except that Avery was terrible as a WR1. He was targeted on all three of Smith's interceptions in the week one game Bowe missed because of a drug suspension. Fortunately, that event also let the Chiefs get out of the Bowe contract. The receiver corps Smith has now may be the best he's ever had. (Crabtree, Moss, Manningham, Davis, Walker, and Gore in 2012 were solid for their experience, but Hill, Conley, Kelce, and Hunt have talent where they lack experience.) I think Wilson reminds me of Avery the most. Flashy deep threat guy who only helps out when he's the low profile guy. Avery might have been a decent #3 Chiefs expected a lot more from him. However we had a terrible WR group back then, even Jenkins was our "talented" youngster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 I think Wilson reminds me of Avery the most. Flashy deep threat guy who only helps out when he's the low profile guy. Avery might have been a decent #3 Chiefs expected a lot more from him. However we had a terrible WR group back then, even Jenkins was our "talented" youngsterYet he's never caught a deep ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Yet he's never caught a deep ball. Actually he used to catch some in his first couple years but somehow he found a way to regress after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 Actually he used to catch some in his first couple years but somehow he found a way to regress after that.Catch and run is his forte. But he can't catch and he's not targeted much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I have a colleague from Cleveland who's not really a Browns fan but still follows them. He says the city wouldn't mind giving up an early pick for a guy like Smith just to watch the team win some games. Might not be all that serious but I can see the Browns giving up a major pick to get some stability at the position. They can afford it and have a bunch of high picks to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,687 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I have a colleague from Cleveland who's not really a Browns fan but still follows them. He says the city wouldn't mind giving up an early pick for a guy like Smith just to watch the team win some games. Might not be all that serious but I can see the Browns giving up a major pick to get some stability at the position. They can afford it and have a bunch of high picks to work with. I think Kizer given some support will do them just fine. I think they have a QB they can build around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Cleveland is a mess. I don't think Andy would do that to Alex. Unles they come with a ridiculous offer. Which they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20850120/nfl-how-much-alex-smith-really-changed-2017 TL;DR no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20850120/nfl-how-much-alex-smith-really-changed-2017 TL;DR no Meh i read that. Alex's downfield throws are closer to the receiver. He's opening himself up to possible int's more but that's what you have to do to connect downfield consistently. We'll see if he keeps it up. My opinion is that Alex gonna Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Meh i read that. Alex's downfield throws are closer to the receiver. He's opening himself up to possible int's more but that's what you have to do to connect downfield consistently. We'll see if he keeps it up. My opinion is that Alex gonna Alex. I'm not totally sure at what you're getting at, I think you and I both agree with the article. The point of the article is that Alex really had just a couple of throws in the NE game that weren't Alex type of throws. Since then he's been full Alex and all that entails, for better or worse. But the team around him is making him look really good for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I'm not totally sure at what you're getting at, I think you and I both agree with the article. The point of the article is that Alex really had just a couple of throws in the NE game that weren't Alex type of throws. Since then he's been full Alex and all that entails, for better or worse. But the team around him is making him look really good for now. Helps when you have Tyreek making guys look like fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I'm not totally sure at what you're getting at, I think you and I both agree with the article. The point of the article is that Alex really had just a couple of throws in the NE game that weren't Alex type of throws. Since then he's been full Alex and all that entails, for better or worse. But the team around him is making him look really good for now. Maybe Alex (and Andy) are taking just enough chances to win. Had to make big plays to stay with NE, less so with PHL and the Chargers. As long as there's no turnovers, the Chiefs don't need the big play as often. So far, it's worked out well. The test will be when they trail late in a game and Alex need to take deeper, riskier throws. With Hill and Hunt, he has a chance. Will he take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Maybe Alex (and Andy) are taking just enough chances to win. Had to make big plays to stay with NE, less so with PHL and the Chargers. As long as there's no turnovers, the Chiefs don't need the big play as often. So far, it's worked out well. The test will be when they trail late in a game and Alex need to take deeper, riskier throws. With Hill and Hunt, he has a chance. Will he take it? That seems like an optimistic perspective. Alex has shown that he can only hit that switch every now and then, like in the Chargers comeback in the opener last year. Plus, if you're not regularly doing something, it's hard to flip that switch when it's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 That seems like an optimistic perspective. Alex has shown that he can only hit that switch every now and then, like in the Chargers comeback in the opener last year. Plus, if you're not regularly doing something, it's hard to flip that switch when it's time.Also, most his big plays come early. When trailing, we rarely see the big plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Also, most his big plays come early. When trailing, we rarely see the big plays. Well, that wasn't true in New England, but over the last four years it's been very true overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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